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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
March 27 2014 23:24 GMT
#19941
Welp. Guess it's time to accept that I'm a 3.7k support player and no amount of having a 3.x KDA ratio to the rest of my team's 1.x is going to change that.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
March 27 2014 23:43 GMT
#19942
1 week with only losses. thanks based mmr
FTD
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 00:15:33
March 27 2014 23:48 GMT
#19943
Played against venge-alch-luna tri-stack as solo. This how you win games with 500 MMR deficit.

Yeah: pudge thinks it is the team's fault because he died 5 times and proceed to feed. Also feed couriers and hook the teammates to axe. Game drags 15 more minutes. Apparently in 4K, there are 5 yo boys playing.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
SKYFISH__
Profile Joined December 2013
Bulgaria153 Posts
March 28 2014 01:03 GMT
#19944
for whatever reason im getting nothing but games where there is at least one stack of smurfing idiot noobs on my team who think that they are the hottest shit around.

feeding and awful doter ensured


wut
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
March 28 2014 01:47 GMT
#19945
Playing with my friend and 3 others so he doesn't have to struggle through low priority with angry people. He gets there cause his internet is ass and he occasionally abandons on accident We just mess around through the games, random every time and do divine courage. People there think they are the shit. Trash talk the entire game, tell you to uninstall.

And then they wonder why they're in LP
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
March 28 2014 02:58 GMT
#19946
why cant i just fucking queue for games without people in parties?

why valve, just fucking WHY
aaaaa
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 28 2014 03:17 GMT
#19947
2 AR games last night.

First game, got meepo, swapped it for Shadow Shaman. Go to mid against Shadow Fiend, do pretty decent until I accidentally dc. I reconnect after restarting my router. Some asshole sold all my items. I try to get to do things as much as I can. Then some asshole in the team says "thanks for the game shaman -_-" yeah thanks for selling my items now I can't do shit you assholes. Well we get steamrolled but we try to make things happen but to no avail.

Second game, randomed Earth Spirit, no fucking way I'll play him, asked anyone if they wanted to swap, no one did, so I repicked and got Juggernaut. Not bad really but I don't really know how to play carry properly, laning was a bit weird since our gyro didn't go mid first. We ended up with omniknight at offlane solo, doom at jungle, gyro at mid, me and sven at safelane. We get good ganks, storm bolt + blade fury + doom was too much for their slark and treant (even with living armor) it was a close game. Our doom was wrecking shit but their pudge was owning and our gyro didn't farm as much. Oh, I got dc'ed for a bit and I kinda gave the farm to our sven who didn't get to do much either.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 28 2014 03:43 GMT
#19948
Still another month until dota again ;;
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 06:32:57
March 28 2014 06:17 GMT
#19949
todays dota games let me lose faith in mankind.....DARWIN WHERE ARE YOU?!?!
edit:srsly if charles darwin was right, those guys shouldnt be alive
edit 2: srsly fuck our society and all its things like medical care, social wellfare etc etc it completely disabled the natural selection
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
March 28 2014 06:50 GMT
#19950
People with no sense of self preservation should have antimage removed from their hero select screen.
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
March 28 2014 07:09 GMT
#19951
We were ahead we were winning. It wasn't massive but we had it and we out scaled them in the late game.
Then the server shat itself everyone except the venge and lich (i think) disconnected and they raxed us for free.
We finally lost after winning the next 7 or so team fights.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
March 28 2014 09:21 GMT
#19952
Centaur Warrunner doesn't have a single point in double edge at level 7... I abandoned.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
March 28 2014 09:37 GMT
#19953
On March 28 2014 12:17 SilverSkyLark wrote:
2 AR games last night.

First game, got meepo, swapped it for Shadow Shaman. Go to mid against Shadow Fiend, do pretty decent until I accidentally dc. I reconnect after restarting my router. Some asshole sold all my items. I try to get to do things as much as I can. Then some asshole in the team says "thanks for the game shaman -_-" yeah thanks for selling my items now I can't do shit you assholes. Well we get steamrolled but we try to make things happen but to no avail.



i'm sorry but you're the jackass
if u dc, its ur prob, don't ask 9 people to wait you for 10m
i hate when people like you don't see how their behavior is pathetic.
You definitely ruin this game, and you deserve a low priority for that. my2c

My QQ :
Yesterday i had a game i rdm PA and i realize i have to offlane cuz my team pick a tri lane safe and invoker midd.
This was brutal for me. 0 8 at 15m, i switch to PA support warding shit tp backup etc.
God my plays was so awful ><
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 12:18:24
March 28 2014 12:16 GMT
#19954
had the most "cyka blat" team possible. Between the WK who didn't use the courier to buy any of his things until minute 20 or so (what's the point of buying drums if you leave it in your stash for 10 minutes...) and then Veno who didn't buy wards, courier, or...well, anything supportive because he had to get a Heart/Aghs...fuck this team.
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
March 28 2014 13:07 GMT
#19955
Broke a few my own rules last game. I solo queued CM and I took advice from someone that didn't seem to know what he was talking about. So despite me having about as good start as you possibly could, game was lost quite fast. Ahh well, at least the guy admitted he was wrong and left the game.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
March 28 2014 13:14 GMT
#19956
Sniper who auto attacks..... A LC who picks jungle AFTER I had picked enigma...
A tinker who goes ags after bots....

Game was not good
No Artosis, you are robin
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 13:57:03
March 28 2014 13:52 GMT
#19957
On March 28 2014 04:34 sCCrooked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 16:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 27 2014 15:50 Jerubaal wrote:
On March 27 2014 05:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 27 2014 05:22 sCCrooked wrote:
I would really like to see some pro or even better a team of pros taking several games with a 3 or 4 stack of feeders (10+ lives in the first 8 minutes) who do not speak a single word or can't even identify the letters of any language the pro(s) speak and see if they can handle it. This is literally every game as of late on the American/South American servers and we're too far to play on EU or Asian servers without some pretty bad latency. The supposed-elite always say that its easy or something they just don't deal with like the lowbies, but none of them will prove it. The hypocrisy is so thick you couldn't cut it with a 5-times-tampered steel katana.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/20e694/update_on_the_playdota_member_that_is_proving_elo/


On March 27 2014 06:27 BigO wrote:
Ye you can always win if you are for sure higher MMR then everyone else in the game. I logged on to my smurf yesterday (because I couldn't connect to my usual acc, some wierd bug) and played a game. That account is really way down in the trenches and I still managed to win even though 2-3 of my teammates basically just feed. Somehow our Riki had less then 1k hero damage in an hour long game (idk how that's even possible). But the point is, if you truly are better then your mmr, you will most likely win way more then you lose even if your teammates plays bad.


These "tests" are so goddamn unbelievably stupid. It's like Destiny telling Silver players that the way to get Gold is to have Masters level macro. Oh, so you're telling me that if you're playing 2k below your MMR, you can beat them regardless of your team? Thanks for that enlightening piece of information. I never would have imagined. But it's easier to make this post and say "get good scrub" than to explain to someone who is at 2500 MMR how to play like a 3k MMR player and carry their team.

Besides, unlike SC2 ,it doesn't seem that people aren't complaining about their MMR per se, they are wishing they were at an MMR where teammates weren't actively sabotaging their games. I bet that guy wouldn't have been having so much fun if he wasn't winning. Actually, he and I should queue together so I can just keep his wave pushed the whole time. Telling people they have to be 4k+ to have a fun game doesn't seem reasonable.

My interpretation of his post was that he was complaining that the 3-4 feeders on his team are holding him back from getting higher MMR, and thus I posted that to show that if he was truly a higher MMR player it's easily possible to get yourself out. If he actually was saying he couldn't tolerate playing with them because they were out to deliberately sabotage his games, then that's a different issue and it was my mistake for misinterpreting it.


It actually was a bit of both, but either way I appreciated your response and the insight. I still blame myself for not being good enough to 5v1 because obviously there are many who can better than I, but its still really frustrating when you have to repeat to your teammates "please, I understand its frustrating but running into them over and over feeding lives because you think its over doesn't help us" and its even MORE frustrating when they don't understand enough english to get that point across. Stupid emotion or not, I just honestly feel cheated a lot of the time because others decide the game sucks and its over so hurry up and finish at 8 minute mark.


You're completely missing the point. There WILL be games where your teammates feed, throw and make the game entirely unwinnable. "If you're truly better, you should still be able to carry your team" is an unfair assertion for a lot of games because sometimes your teammates are so bad that the required skill discrepancy needed to "1v5" is gigantic. Noone is saying otherwise. "I'm the better player but I lost the game because of my teammates" is often a very fair statement.


What IS dubious, however, is the idea that your teammates are consistently making you lose games; that your MMR, over long stretches of time and numerous games is suffering because of the incompetence of your allies. See the difference? I mean really, think about what this implies. Theres 10 people in a game. 1 Person (lets say Bob) is really good. One or more of the 4 people he gets on his team are horrible (way worse than him) and throw the game. None of the five members on the other team are this bad, none of them suck or become obstacles in winning the game for their team, the feeders are always on Bobs team.


But wait, this doesn't happen once or twice. No, Bob is claiming this exact set of circumstances happens enough to keep him from reaching his true MMR. This set of circumstances is somehow always aligned in a way that makes him and nobody else the victim. He never belongs to the group of four underskilled, potential throwers. Nor does he ever belong to the group of 5 people on the non throwy team. Apparently the "ELO hell" complainers think the circumstances are consistently unfavorable for them and nobody else.


See my point? It's just basic math... The larger the number of trials, the more likely it is that an event's outcome will reflect it's true probability. If you're truly better than the people in your MMR, then over time, eventually, you'll reach your true MMR because a team with your on it should have a higher probability of winning. If it doesn't then it's time for that person to stop blaming the system and realize they have an inflated perception of their own skill.


Edit: Not to mention KDA and GPM are considerations when calibrating ranked MMR
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 18:31:05
March 28 2014 15:17 GMT
#19958
Oh how lovely it is to play support in pubs when your carries can't farm for shit. It's even more lovely when you have higher net worth than them despite getting 0 creeps and buying wards+detection.

edit: Seriously though, how does Razor loses mid against Tinker and how can a Void only have MoM+Power Treads 20 minutes into the game ?
zzzz I also had to deal with the enemy team thinking they were some amazing players despite winning because the worst player on our team went mid...
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
March 28 2014 16:46 GMT
#19959
I have 4 people in my lane as a faceless void and I get BM'd for not having farm

next game I play wr vs a trilane, I don't die and manage to get some exp (though not a lot), meanwhile my safelane farm void has...a minute 30 battlefury.

the funny thing is that he said he was close to finishing it at minute 11...
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
March 28 2014 18:15 GMT
#19960
On March 29 2014 01:46 hooahah wrote:
I have 4 people in my lane as a faceless void and I get BM'd for not having farm

next game I play wr vs a trilane, I don't die and manage to get some exp (though not a lot), meanwhile my safelane farm void has...a minute 30 battlefury.

the funny thing is that he said he was close to finishing it at minute 11...


I hate this shit. I usually get 4 people sitting in mid for 10-15 minutes accomplishing nothing while the enemy is farming all lanes + jungle
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