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On January 14 2014 01:12 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 00:11 zezamer wrote: playing doto is having fun and learning russian at the same time Someone should visit russia equipped with only the russian they've learned in dota 2. in russian: "Hi. I'd like to order a burger with coke and your mother please"
don't you mean
cyka! giev gamburger blyat cyka or repawt u nuub blyat cyka idi nahui i fak ur mother! 'I'm sorry sir, we don't sell hamburgers. We are not mcdonalds' wat u say? ur mother is not mcdonalds! fak u giev gamburger reported noob!
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On January 14 2014 00:24 MotherOfRunes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 09:13 Orome wrote: Playing with 3 friends. Ask for mid. Our 5th lastpicks storm. I give him mid. Check his items after some time. Dagon 1. No other item. No boots. well at what minute did he get the dagon? because an early dagon, especially in low-mid sometimes even high skill range, can make you snowball so hard. also it gives him intelligence and damage which he both needs. also helps bursting people with a follow-up orchid. im not saying it is the best item choice, god no. but when i play with bad-ish friends i find myself very often playing a furion with dagon first (before boots). because a 7-8mins dagon combined with a global teleport ar guranteed kills everywhere. but of course if the storm didnt have good farm and got this item not that early, didnt get a use out of it and had no follow-up farm, its shit of course
It was very late. And he wasn't a jungling NP who can sort of get away with silly things like dagon before boots, he was a mid storm spirit without boots, bottle or anything but his level 1 dagon. The friends I was playing with are all beginners so it was really low MMR, but even so...
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On January 14 2014 02:04 MotherOfRunes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 01:59 Plansix wrote: Played a game where I was E shaker and no one else bought mek. We had doom with an vanguard and vlads, but no mek. Item is to OP for pub games.
Talk to me more about this bear cannon. its funny how everybody expects doom to buy meka now, sure it can be / is strong. but only because its seen now in competetive it doesnt mean u have to everytime. same goes for OD mid since in competetive they started buying mek on him. sure u can do it but u dont fucking have to in every game. force staf finto hex/bkb without mek is still fucking fine. same goes for doom with sblade/drums/cuirass whatever without meka He was the only one who could. Earth shaker can't get it. My job is to leap into combat with a blink dagger, drop ult and then try to escape with my life while the team cleans up. No one else on the team could get it either, unless it's a good item on PA or weaver.
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Mek weaver sounds like a good idea until you realize that generally as long as weaver can press "mek" he can also press timelapse so... lol
I mean I guess orchid or w/e but still
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On January 14 2014 04:31 Zorkmid wrote: Hit the 50 abandon mark! Gotta cut down on the rage quit son. It's bad for your dota health.
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omg thesis no dota for 2 weeks
QQ
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On January 14 2014 05:59 peidongyang wrote:omg thesis no dota for 2 weeks QQ  (((((((((((((((((((((
condolences imslayers3xyfou
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slark mid. die to bs 1v1 before 6. how¨
we won anyway but wtf
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Gaaaaaaaaah.
Game. We've got LC, Void, and CM (me!) locked in. They've got Skywrath Necro Potm and two blanks. LC's said she's going woods, Void and I are a pretty obvious duo lane... fuck it, I announce "Need a mid and offlane still, please pick accordingly" anyways.
Meepo and Riki.
Meepo mid, sure. Against necro or skywrath? Sounds fucking crazy to me, but best of luck to you. Riki offlane? Lol.
...But apparently I'm dumb and bad at Dota, because at 15 minutes in the game Riki's got more than I thought he would against a Lina / Necro duo lane, Meepo's done pretty damn solid mid, and our Void has had freefarm, including a 5 minute midas. I'd also kept Mirana down at level 1 until the 3rd minute of the game, so things were looking good.
At 9 minutes, our Meepo scouts that they've got a Lycan with vlads, so I let everyone know that we need to keep an extra special eye on Roshan, and keep that shit warded for the rest of the game. They never do get roshan, but it doesn't matter.
There's something special you might notice about our lineup. Yeah, on the surface 4 of them are carries, but they're not just ANY 4 carries... they're pubstomp carries, every single one, and they play like it.
Exhibit A: Meepo, blink dagger, treads, and components of an Aghas. That's exactly what you'd expect, but what you wouldn't expect is for him to use that blink to launch himself solo, deep in their woods, into a Lycan that's howled and god knows what else, who proceeds to gnaw his face right off with a little help from his inevitably-nearby friends. Or to launch himself solo at their t2 at a full health Necro when his main meepo only had 500 hp and Necro had already cast veil on him. And then ragequit immediately afterwards.
Exhibit B: Riki. Diffusal, BKB, is CONVINCED that he can solo kill the Lina literally standing in the middle of their team before they kill him. Turns out that isn't the case. Also special points for playing the "Geez, I hope they don't have detection!" card like 15 times throughout the game.
Exhibit C: Void. Nothing says "I was only made to kill people" like a build that opens midas, then goes straight daedalus and a MoM. Also cool was the general opinion that no matter where he was on the map, if he got 2 out of their 5 in bubble, then the teamfight was won and under no circumstance should we abandon ship.
Exhibit D: LC. Again, an opening midas says something, but at least LC was manning the opposite end of the pubstomp spectrum. "Look at all these free lanes of farm, and free farm in the woods!" LC said whenever not being a good player and participating in defensive teamfights, "Boy, I get to farm until I have so many items we can't lose!". Unfortunately, this only works if you -don't- have 3 carries that are perpetually in their woods or at their ancients trying to kill people, and also doesn't work if those 3 carries have zero interest in pushing anything or taking rosh even IF they manage to snipe the Lycan or someone.
So at about 20 minutes, I looked at our 4 carry lineup, looked at our farm and went "Damn, that went better than expected! I think we can't lose!". About 10 minutes later, after 3 times in sequence where our pubstompers took turns trying to 1v5 their team, I'd returned to the much less optimistic "Goddammit. Fuck dota".
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What is the mindset of a person who queues up to play captain's draft and captain's mode, but then doesn't participate in chat about who to draft or even which heroes he is comfortable playing? I don't understand this.
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Some people shouldn't be allowed to draft.
I wish Valve had stats showing what sort of win% people had as captain so that people who are really bad at it would at least have some indication and perhaps be less inclined to immediately go for it.
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Just had a game as Earth Shaker, my teammates are; NP, Earth Spirit, Clinkz and Alc. We are against a Tinker, Tide, KOTL, Spectre and Weaver.
In my lane with Alc, we hit them pretty hard in the beginning, making sure that Spectre doesn't get any farm at all, so things are looking good, untill they start pushing like mad men so we should defend the tower, except 1 or 2 of my teammates thought it would be a good idea to face 5 heroes alone outside the tower range, and through out the entire game, NP just farms. Yeah I know he's supposed to farm, but when they are pushing 5 heroes at the time, then you should probaly go help, especially you can see that your teammates are struggling defending against it.
But nooo, NP thinks that Alc should come help stun and stack the camps while Alc farms the lane, and while we are fighting the enemy team. So when they finally have taken all of our outer towers, NP thinks it's a good idea to help a bit, or that means, go out and see if he can find somebody alone, but instead he finds 2-3 fucking people together, and he get's raped.
God I hate Dota at times.
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On January 14 2014 07:15 Staboteur wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Gaaaaaaaaah.
Game. We've got LC, Void, and CM (me!) locked in. They've got Skywrath Necro Potm and two blanks. LC's said she's going woods, Void and I are a pretty obvious duo lane... fuck it, I announce "Need a mid and offlane still, please pick accordingly" anyways.
Meepo and Riki.
Meepo mid, sure. Against necro or skywrath? Sounds fucking crazy to me, but best of luck to you. Riki offlane? Lol.
...But apparently I'm dumb and bad at Dota, because at 15 minutes in the game Riki's got more than I thought he would against a Lina / Necro duo lane, Meepo's done pretty damn solid mid, and our Void has had freefarm, including a 5 minute midas. I'd also kept Mirana down at level 1 until the 3rd minute of the game, so things were looking good.
At 9 minutes, our Meepo scouts that they've got a Lycan with vlads, so I let everyone know that we need to keep an extra special eye on Roshan, and keep that shit warded for the rest of the game. They never do get roshan, but it doesn't matter.
There's something special you might notice about our lineup. Yeah, on the surface 4 of them are carries, but they're not just ANY 4 carries... they're pubstomp carries, every single one, and they play like it.
Exhibit A: Meepo, blink dagger, treads, and components of an Aghas. That's exactly what you'd expect, but what you wouldn't expect is for him to use that blink to launch himself solo, deep in their woods, into a Lycan that's howled and god knows what else, who proceeds to gnaw his face right off with a little help from his inevitably-nearby friends. Or to launch himself solo at their t2 at a full health Necro when his main meepo only had 500 hp and Necro had already cast veil on him. And then ragequit immediately afterwards.
Exhibit B: Riki. Diffusal, BKB, is CONVINCED that he can solo kill the Lina literally standing in the middle of their team before they kill him. Turns out that isn't the case. Also special points for playing the "Geez, I hope they don't have detection!" card like 15 times throughout the game.
Exhibit C: Void. Nothing says "I was only made to kill people" like a build that opens midas, then goes straight daedalus and a MoM. Also cool was the general opinion that no matter where he was on the map, if he got 2 out of their 5 in bubble, then the teamfight was won and under no circumstance should we abandon ship.
Exhibit D: LC. Again, an opening midas says something, but at least LC was manning the opposite end of the pubstomp spectrum. "Look at all these free lanes of farm, and free farm in the woods!" LC said whenever not being a good player and participating in defensive teamfights, "Boy, I get to farm until I have so many items we can't lose!". Unfortunately, this only works if you -don't- have 3 carries that are perpetually in their woods or at their ancients trying to kill people, and also doesn't work if those 3 carries have zero interest in pushing anything or taking rosh even IF they manage to snipe the Lycan or someone.
So at about 20 minutes, I looked at our 4 carry lineup, looked at our farm and went "Damn, that went better than expected! I think we can't lose!". About 10 minutes later, after 3 times in sequence where our pubstompers took turns trying to 1v5 their team, I'd returned to the much less optimistic "Goddammit. Fuck dota" .
I feel your pain. One of my worst losses was a game where despite an amazing early-mid game, my three fed as fuck carries all kept 1vs5ing the other team.
Watching Clinkz walk into them hoping they don't have detection over and over again...the horror
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On January 14 2014 08:38 ziggurat wrote: What is the mindset of a person who queues up to play captain's draft and captain's mode, but then doesn't participate in chat about who to draft or even which heroes he is comfortable playing? I don't understand this. Dunno, I usually let the captain execute their plan and I'm happy playing whatever. But I'm too lazy to spend time with drafts, now that I can't tell any difference between skill/attitude in ap and cm/cd any longer.
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I am so sick of this tiny+centaur bullshit. Like 75% of my ranked games the last few days have had this crap in it. Last one had tiny+cent+tusk for maximum stupid.
I have no idea how to win against that in soloQ. It's like the definition of stack advantage; you're guaranteed to have a lane go 0-6 the instant it's picked.
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On January 14 2014 08:38 ziggurat wrote: What is the mindset of a person who queues up to play captain's draft and captain's mode, but then doesn't participate in chat about who to draft or even which heroes he is comfortable playing? I don't understand this.
Usually when I play CM or CD I comment on good picks based on our and their current lineups. However sometimes when I just don't care about what I get to play I don't say anything.
Some people just want to be given a hero to play as sometimes. Personally I'm fairly comfortable playing anything up to and including Meepo so... *shrug*
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FUUUUCCKKKK
I AM FUCKING SICK OF PEOPLE PICKING PUSH LINEUPS AND SUCKING WITH THEM AND MAKING RETARDED DECISIONS
JESUS CHRIST
Lesh, dp, veno, pug, ld vs invoker, cm, alch, luna, weaver.
This is a no brainer. They have no counterpush, except for invoker. We should have facerolled them.
Except that people chose retarded fucking lanes, against my advice (veno solo top against weaver? yeah he fed). Ld jungled, and lesh (me) and pug vs their aggro trilane. WE FUCKING 2v3ED THEIR TRILANE WITH MY STUNS AND EDICT. FB. KILLED ALL THREE. THEY HAD TO ROTATE. WE TOOK THE T1 IN FOUR MINUTES. And then when we fucking went to start the siege, it all fell apart. DP would never ult until they engaged INTO US, which was too fucking late by then. Veno would NEVER set up a defensive battery of wards in front of their tower despite me ASKING EVERY TIME, always suiciding them for a few hits on the tower. NO-ONE BOUGHT DETECTION BUT ME, AND THEY FED THE SHIT OUTTA WEAVER. And pugna wasted his ward in stupid positions half the fucking time....
God damn I am sick of playing this lineup and losing.
People. If you can't fucking siege or don't know how to construct lanes, STOP FUCKING PLAYING THIS STRATEGY AND PICK PUB LINEUPS.
FUUUUCCKKKKKKKKKKK
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On January 14 2014 08:38 ziggurat wrote: What is the mindset of a person who queues up to play captain's draft and captain's mode, but then doesn't participate in chat about who to draft or even which heroes he is comfortable playing? I don't understand this.
those are people that hate cm/cd and just want to dodge earth shitter. pretty much.
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On January 14 2014 22:32 willstertben wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 08:38 ziggurat wrote: What is the mindset of a person who queues up to play captain's draft and captain's mode, but then doesn't participate in chat about who to draft or even which heroes he is comfortable playing? I don't understand this. those are people that hate cm/cd and just want to dodge earth shitter. pretty much. Or they just assume the person who chose to be captain has some idea what he's doing.
If the captain specifically asks "anyone play hero X?" I'll reply, but I'm not going to type up in depth analysis of every picks/bans phase I play in a pub.
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