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On December 26 2013 03:52 umade wrote:
Where's the logic behind letting solo queuers face stacks? Wow, I play solo, I get to face a stack that decides to splitpush the entire game and I can't come up with a strat because I AM FUCKING PLAYING SOLO QUEUE.
The logic behind it is "not waiting 40 minutes for a game". The game is trying to face you as few stacks as possible when playing solo, and you'll practically never meet a 5stack, but on the other hand it doesn't want you to wait forever. So sometimes it just goes "fuck it, the best I can find right now is 3 + two solos, projected wait time otherwise is 10 minutes"
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On December 25 2013 00:32 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 18:06 sCCrooked wrote:
To them, I pose a very simple rhetorical scenario. When in the first 6 minutes, 1 lane goes 0-10 all kills to enemy Chaos Knight or Alchemist or something, I would really like to know how you single-handedly pull it out of your skill pool to stop him and his entire team who actually know how to protect him and move as a group/ward/react/teleport after that carry has been fed to the point where major core items are done when they shouldn't be. Unwinnable games exist, but they occur much more rarely than many people believe. A lot of people underestimate the impact a skilled player can have in a game. Aditionally, unwinnable games should occur more frequently for your opponents, if you're truly better than your rating suggests. There are 9 players other than you in the game. 5 of them are on the other team. Thus the opposing team should have more "feeders" on average, assuming you're not one yourself.
To all posts similar to this one that were responses to my OP, I understand all of this, but its become unbelivably frustrating to see people 1000 less in MMR than myself being constantly stuck in my qeue or even worse, people who haven't even finished the placements being stuck on my team while the entire other team is not only ranked but fit in their rating.
I mean I just finished a game where a 3400 rated Faceless Void player had brown boots and was starting (literally JUST STARTING) a vladimir at 18 minute mark. When I asked where his farm was, he promptly cursed and said the usual "you stupid n00b" shit like I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm doing. I have countless games like this if you need more examples. I just do not feel from my single and very small standpoint that MMR is working anywhere near decently.
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On December 26 2013 04:18 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2013 03:52 umade wrote:
Where's the logic behind letting solo queuers face stacks? Wow, I play solo, I get to face a stack that decides to splitpush the entire game and I can't come up with a strat because I AM FUCKING PLAYING SOLO QUEUE. The logic behind it is "not waiting 40 minutes for a game". The game is trying to face you as few stacks as possible when playing solo, and you'll practically never meet a 5stack, but on the other hand it doesn't want you to wait forever. So sometimes it just goes "fuck it, the best I can find right now is 3 + two solos, projected wait time otherwise is 10 minutes"
lies, it never took that long finding a game with solo que
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On December 26 2013 05:51 zezamer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2013 04:18 Excludos wrote:On December 26 2013 03:52 umade wrote:
Where's the logic behind letting solo queuers face stacks? Wow, I play solo, I get to face a stack that decides to splitpush the entire game and I can't come up with a strat because I AM FUCKING PLAYING SOLO QUEUE. The logic behind it is "not waiting 40 minutes for a game". The game is trying to face you as few stacks as possible when playing solo, and you'll practically never meet a 5stack, but on the other hand it doesn't want you to wait forever. So sometimes it just goes "fuck it, the best I can find right now is 3 + two solos, projected wait time otherwise is 10 minutes" lies, it never took that long finding a game with solo que
Solo que didnt exist at the same time as ranked. Theres simply not enough people playing this game to keep 4 different queues open + whatever event is going on
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On December 26 2013 04:49 sCCrooked wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2013 00:32 Alur wrote:On December 24 2013 18:06 sCCrooked wrote:
To them, I pose a very simple rhetorical scenario. When in the first 6 minutes, 1 lane goes 0-10 all kills to enemy Chaos Knight or Alchemist or something, I would really like to know how you single-handedly pull it out of your skill pool to stop him and his entire team who actually know how to protect him and move as a group/ward/react/teleport after that carry has been fed to the point where major core items are done when they shouldn't be. Unwinnable games exist, but they occur much more rarely than many people believe. A lot of people underestimate the impact a skilled player can have in a game. Aditionally, unwinnable games should occur more frequently for your opponents, if you're truly better than your rating suggests. There are 9 players other than you in the game. 5 of them are on the other team. Thus the opposing team should have more "feeders" on average, assuming you're not one yourself. To all posts similar to this one that were responses to my OP, I understand all of this, but its become unbelivably frustrating to see people 1000 less in MMR than myself being constantly stuck in my qeue or even worse, people who haven't even finished the placements being stuck on my team while the entire other team is not only ranked but fit in their rating. I mean I just finished a game where a 3400 rated Faceless Void player had brown boots and was starting (literally JUST STARTING) a vladimir at 18 minute mark. When I asked where his farm was, he promptly cursed and said the usual "you stupid n00b" shit like I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm doing. I have countless games like this if you need more examples. I just do not feel from my single and very small standpoint that MMR is working anywhere near decently.
Is the Faceless Void player on your friendlist? You can no longer see ratings of all public profiles.
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Fix is simple, never play ranked ap. Always play CM mode if you gonna play ranked. Way better games after 3500+ ranked.
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On December 26 2013 06:47 Aelfric wrote:
Fix is simple, never play ranked ap. Always play CM mode if you gonna play ranked. Way better games after 3500+ ranked.
yeah, play heros you don't want to play because a random stranger thinks it is a good idea, way better.
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On December 26 2013 06:47 Aelfric wrote:
Fix is simple, never play ranked ap. Always play CM mode if you gonna play ranked. Way better games after 3500+ ranked.
ap ranked way better after 5000+
opinions are just opinions
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On December 26 2013 07:01 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2013 06:47 Aelfric wrote:
Fix is simple, never play ranked ap. Always play CM mode if you gonna play ranked. Way better games after 3500+ ranked. yeah, play heros you don't want to play because a random stranger thinks it is a good idea, way better.
I feel the same. CM is fuckin' stupid with random pubs.
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Of all days, Christmas is the day the servers decide to be at their absolute worst...it's not beta anymore - get your $hit together valve.
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3rd try at Ranked.
Got a pair of supports that basically roamed all game long, leading into a low level supports + outfarmed sidelanes.
Oh and a OD mid managed somehow to get RAPED by a qop.
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Finally finished my 10 solo calibration games.
Rating: 3745
/qqrantallnight
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Oh my god the polish flamer I just played with. It was just nonstop from the first death on our team, at that point he pretty much just gave up and started berating our whole team for the next 40 minutes. Reminded me of the level of flame from polish PGT/WGT players in bw back in the days. Then he "accepted" 1v1 in game but dodged it right after.
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Playing against ember, bristle, veno, lone druid and ench.... all the heroes were picked before our last pick on our team... DROW RANGER
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ok now i had some taste of the RMM....not really helping me to write for 'How to play X in pub' because i keep facing stacks who made 'tryhard' line up D:
Again i have nothing against tryhard but this is pretty screwed up if you did solo queued.
meanwhile, just won a unwinable game by playing a hardlane mirana (ye.....back to that desperate pick now...) who bought sentry/ward for the team. If i got enough games like that i might as well just write a 'how to play when team sucked early'.
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On December 26 2013 10:12 BurningSera wrote:
ok now i had some taste of the RMM....not really helping me to write for 'How to play X in pub' because i keep facing stacks who made 'tryhard' line up D:
Again i have nothing against tryhard but this is pretty screwed up if you did solo queued.
meanwhile, just won a unwinable game by playing a hardlane mirana (ye.....back to that desperate pick now...) who bought sentry/ward for the team. If i got enough games like that i might as well just write a 'how to play when team sucked early'.
guide will be short:
1. pick earth spirit
2. win game
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On December 26 2013 11:11 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2013 10:12 BurningSera wrote:
ok now i had some taste of the RMM....not really helping me to write for 'How to play X in pub' because i keep facing stacks who made 'tryhard' line up D:
Again i have nothing against tryhard but this is pretty screwed up if you did solo queued.
meanwhile, just won a unwinable game by playing a hardlane mirana (ye.....back to that desperate pick now...) who bought sentry/ward for the team. If i got enough games like that i might as well just write a 'how to play when team sucked early'. guide will be short: 1. pick earth spirit 2. win game
Yeah and sprint mid because you know your team just picked up 4 mids and expected you to support
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Actually won two games straight. Then I get this fucking Kotl..
Captains Draft, we get WR + WD lane top, Viper (me) mid, Luna + Kotl bot.
They have Pudge mid, I win.
They have Lone Druid solo top, WR + WD win.
They have Chen jungle, not doing shit, not even pushing towers.
They have Abaddon + DP bot, lane is a toss up, but DP isn't getting towers.
We lead in kills and towers, but sadly Luna is feeding like a noob.
I have Vanguard, Threads, Yasha, Shadowblade + gold. Can't be stop
WR goes carry with Phase, Force, Orchid. Kotl has his Mek up.
They CANNOT push if we are there, but what does Kotl do? He goes split pushing a t2 mid tower while they grab TWO towers top. He gets back as our rax tower dies, and they get melee rax. Before they took a single top tower, we asked him to come. He said "no, stupid picks, we can't win this" and proceeded to flame us. Said we had three supports and Viper sucked cock (mind you, I was 10-4, probably the leader in net worth). So yeah, because one stupid fucking retard decided to just give up we lost the game. He got at least three reports, so hopefully he'll be put both in low prio as well as muted for a year.
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Yo, please don't spam, we need wards when ive already bought them and have two wards on the map already. Thank you dota community.
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I would like the option to say "i don't mind a 10 minute wait, please give me a match were everyone has English selected, all players are reasonably similar skill, and the party sizes are equal".
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