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Most frustrating game ever:
We have weird lanes with Luna & Axe bot, me as Veno mid, Windranger offlane and Furion in the Jungle. But it works, Luna is 9-1 on bot, I am 5-0 as roaming Veno and we take all the outer towers with max poison sting / wards. Everytime the enemy tries to contest my poison and Luna glaives just own them. Then Furion comes out of the jungle with FIRST ITEM RAPIER, proceeds to feed it to the enemy Lifestealer and we loose nearly every fight from there. Enemy also had PL, which until that time we kept down pretty hard and now has room to farm. 35 Minutes later we loose with still more kills on the board but unable to fight against Rapier LS and feed PL.
WHY FURION, WHY?
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CM goes arcane aura level one. alright, at least she bought a courier, so that's something. maxes arcane aura first, without getting a single level in crystal nova. i asked her why, she said "I've found it works." I tried to explain to her that it was a really inefficient skill build when I noticed she was rushing treads. at that point I gave up on her, since I had successfully gotten my broodmother 6 or so kills without her or me on tidehunter dying once. unfortunately however, our doom proceeded to go 0-9 and DP mid didn't do much either. proceeded to get raped in every team fight, since maiden never once cast her ult. except when she was at the back of the team fight. I shit you not.
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I'm trying to think of how arcane aura first can ever be good. Some kind of weird level 1 tower push strat with pugna and enigma?
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On December 01 2013 18:25 LeeDawg wrote:
CM goes arcane aura level one. alright, at least she bought a courier, so that's something. maxes arcane aura first, without getting a single level in crystal nova. i asked her why, she said "I've found it works." I tried to explain to her that it was a really inefficient skill build when I noticed she was rushing treads. at that point I gave up on her, since I had successfully gotten my broodmother 6 or so kills without her or me on tidehunter dying once. unfortunately however, our doom proceeded to go 0-9 and DP mid didn't do much either. proceeded to get raped in every team fight, since maiden never once cast her ult. except when she was at the back of the team fight. I shit you not.
While I wouldn't say "rushing", I actually don't mind treads on CM in certain situations. It gives you the freedom to bump between intel / str treads and offers you slightly faster jungle farming aside from that. There are games where you need the better movespeed and more readily available regen that tranquils provide, but there are also games where getting your CM some cheap rightclicking stats helps, because she spends a fair amount of time rightclicking stuff.
That said max aura is terrible, CM only needs ~2 points in it for herself, and an extra 1.5 mana per second for her team is typically enough to give them the space to otherwise supplement their mana needs.
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On another losing streak. Went straight from +34 to +26 in 3 days with overall only 13 games played. Meh. Moving to CS:GO soon.
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Get into game, check ping (45ms) and I'm thinking if I forgot to uncheck SEA. Game starts and I'm playing a slideshow, yep, definitely SEA.
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Man, naga might be the single most difficult hero in the entire game to play in pubs . Literally everything is your fault.
Any teammate anywhere in the vicinity of naga dies?
ZOMG NOOB NAGA NO ULT
Attempt to save a teammate who ran in 1v5, and have them blow up during the cast animation?
ZOMG NOOB NAGA BEST ULT MLG 420
Ult to save multiple teammates from a bad engagement and have one guy waste a spell into it?
ZOMG NOOB NAGA WHY ULT
Have teammate waste instant cast spell into a song that's been going for multiple seconds?
ZOMG NOOB NAGA WHY NOT END SONG
So freaking frustrating. Of course you didn't die because you ran out to suicide, you obviously died because I'm terrible because I couldn't blink two screens to song and save you while simultaneously avoiding interrupting the rest of our initiation. Every. Single. Game.
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^ I feel your pain. I played with a Naga once that got the same treatment cuz my teammates were dumb as hell.
However, I also had a Naga teammate who was just plain bad, no Song to initiate or escape. I think Naga only works if 1) you are really damn pro with it (but of course if you have dumb teammates then all will be for nothing) or 2) you guys communicate a lot as a team so everyone is more or less on the same page.
I had this RD game using CM, the game was pretty tough but I kept on telling my teammates that we can still win the game if we can win team fights. We were defending our Tier 2 mid tower which we ended up losing. Our opponents didn't want to over extend and decided to pull back. Our Anti Mage stupidly blinks into 4 angry heroes and dies almost immediately. After which he says in ally chat: "So CM, you think we can still win? I initiate and you don't support?" Well fuck you man, you blink-engaged, everyone else was running back cuz they didn't have hp/mana, and even if I could force staff in, I wouldn't cuz I'd melt faster than butter in a hot pan. I fucking hate carries that jump into hell and expect you to support them. If you don't play smart, you're not getting any support.
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On December 01 2013 17:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 14:09 juracule wrote:
Like a month ago I had really nice games, very close every single time.
But now I just keep getting matched with absolute retards. Dropped from 51.7% winrate all they way down to 51.1% with about 2k games played. And then when I check the dotabuff page I see I am getting paired with some 48% winrate scrublet with 600 games who "rushes" a 35 min vanguard. Seriously valve, what the fuck. Lol, you dropped .4% winrate without playing any more games. That's impressive. Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 04:35 juracule wrote:
Went from a 51.7 winrate to a 51.5 winrate with 2000 games played over the span of a weekend, due to getting paired with people with a 48% winrate.
Volvo wat is dis matchmaking.
Because when you play about 50 more games since you last posted here its not about 2000? Find it more impressive how can you make such a dumb remark.
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God Kaolin is so fucking dumb, you learn one combo and that's enough to destroy anybody
ten billion range instant stun ten billion range engage ten billion range force staff ten billion damage ulti
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I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad.
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On December 02 2013 07:24 Salazarz wrote:
I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad.
there is an option "dont match with parties when alone"
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On December 02 2013 07:24 Salazarz wrote:
I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad.
Why the FUCK would you grab cap over a 4 man premade? they qued together and probably know what they work well with and what they dont like to do. When you solo into CM and INSTA pick the 4 lock has every right to yell at you because you are being stupid. Whenever i solo que CM i NEVER take cap unless a good 5 seconds have gone by and nobody else takes it. I get so damned pissed when i 4 lock and some dumbass steals cap and first bans DS.
QQ With my 4 lock today someone stole cap and first ban DS
Also ive lost maybe 6 games in a row today, not a good day for dota.
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On December 02 2013 08:00 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 07:24 Salazarz wrote:
I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad. Why the FUCK would you grab cap over a 4 man premade? they qued together and probably know what they work well with and what they dont like to do. When you solo into CM and INSTA pick the 4 lock has every right to yell at you because you are being stupid. Whenever i solo que CM i NEVER take cap unless a good 5 seconds have gone by and nobody else takes it. I get so damned pissed when i 4 lock and some dumbass steals cap and first bans DS. QQ With my 4 lock today someone stole cap and first ban DS Also ive lost maybe 6 games in a row today, not a good day for dota.
Exhibit A.
4-mans are the sole reason I keep solo queue checked. Absolute cancer.
No, you shouldn't snipe cap over a 4 man. But so many of them will completely ignore the last player, and in fact spend so much time wanking off together over Skype or whatever that well over 5 seconds will pass, and so you take it because it looks like they dont want it. Cue flametrain. RD/SD are even worse because they never, ever communicate what they want to do and will rage at you for literally anything you pick.
And that's just the pick. God forbid literally anything you do in the game is in opposition to the psychic link you're supposed to have to their Skype call.
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On December 02 2013 08:54 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 08:00 Deathmanbob wrote:On December 02 2013 07:24 Salazarz wrote:
I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad. Why the FUCK would you grab cap over a 4 man premade? they qued together and probably know what they work well with and what they dont like to do. When you solo into CM and INSTA pick the 4 lock has every right to yell at you because you are being stupid. Whenever i solo que CM i NEVER take cap unless a good 5 seconds have gone by and nobody else takes it. I get so damned pissed when i 4 lock and some dumbass steals cap and first bans DS. QQ With my 4 lock today someone stole cap and first ban DS Also ive lost maybe 6 games in a row today, not a good day for dota. Exhibit A. 4-mans are the sole reason I keep solo queue checked. Absolute cancer.
All you have to do when playing with a 4 stack is go, hey i would like to play this or this. Thats all you have to do not take cap and screw over what they were planning to do. Every time we get some dumb ass who takes cap he never talks and picks 100% trash. No getting an OD mid after they picked razor isnt good. Do they have bane? lets pick LS! its never been good
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On December 02 2013 08:54 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 08:00 Deathmanbob wrote:On December 02 2013 07:24 Salazarz wrote:
I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad. Why the FUCK would you grab cap over a 4 man premade? they qued together and probably know what they work well with and what they dont like to do. When you solo into CM and INSTA pick the 4 lock has every right to yell at you because you are being stupid. Whenever i solo que CM i NEVER take cap unless a good 5 seconds have gone by and nobody else takes it. I get so damned pissed when i 4 lock and some dumbass steals cap and first bans DS. QQ With my 4 lock today someone stole cap and first ban DS Also ive lost maybe 6 games in a row today, not a good day for dota. Exhibit A. 4-mans are the sole reason I keep solo queue checked. Absolute cancer. No, you shouldn't snipe cap over a 4 man. But so many of them will completely ignore the last player, and in fact spend so much time wanking off together over Skype or whatever that well over 5 seconds will pass, and so you take it because it looks like they dont want it. Cue flametrain. RD/SD are even worse because they never, ever communicate what they want to do and will rage at you for literally anything you pick.
Im not talking about people who wait to pick it, im talking about those people who solo que and then INSTA take cap. If the 4 stack is lagging its their own fault (we have done it before and we just let the other guy pick and play those picks) but when they take it when im spamming for cap its just bullshit
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God my games this weekend 4-12, literally every team had some idiot who didnt know what to do.
Had a Bristle and Axe with a 40 minute vanguard and treads each.... one had a hood.
Slardar who would tp out of every team fight, and then claim we were feeding even though he was 1-14, rest of us were fine.
I honestly cant see how these people can put clothes on in the morning, their thought process is just not there.
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Well look, there's going to be stupid +1s and there's going to be dumb 4 stacks. I can't comment on the frequency of dumb +1s because I don't 4 stack, but I literally have never had a pleasant game playing as the +1 even if I make a concerted effort to be their bitch.
If I say "I would like to pick X", the answer is never anything other than deafening silence because they're too busy talking to each other. So I pick the hero anyway (let's say it is OD, for the sake of argument), and then they pick storm spirit and send me support od while telling me how bad I am.
This is not an isolated situation. I have never, ever had a 4 stack that communicates well with the +1. Even the more chilled stacks will say something like "take whatever you want", and then blame me 10 minutes later for whatever goes wrong.
It's just a shit situation all around, and so I save them the trouble and don't queue with them.
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Majority of 4-stacks I meet don't communicate in any shape or form unless it's to go, PICK ME SCEPTRE NOW, OMG CAP RETARD!!!! Maybe I'm just unlucky; glad I posted this anyway cus I totally forgot about the 'solo only' option, will most definitely be checking that from now on.
Also, I snipe cap in every game I can because most people can't draft for shit and the only thing that's worse than shitty drafters are people who ask "what u guys wanna play" and then proceed to treat CM as an extended form of all pick or something. Maybe I'm just an asshole, but at least I tend to win games where I get to draft properly unless people afk or something.
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I 3- or 4-stack sometimes and I think we get more commends from the +1 than we get retards. As 4-stacks go we are pretty chilled though.
QQ: Different people on my friends list who are vehemently opposed to playing with each other (with good reason, but that's by the by) who both invite me. awkward.
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