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On December 02 2013 09:08 Salazarz wrote:
Majority of 4-stacks I meet don't communicate in any shape or form unless it's to go, PICK ME SCEPTRE NOW, OMG CAP RETARD!!!! Maybe I'm just unlucky; glad I posted this anyway cus I totally forgot about the 'solo only' option, will most definitely be checking that from now on.
Also, I snipe cap in every game I can because most people can't draft for shit and the only thing that's worse than shitty drafters are people who ask "what u guys wanna play" and then proceed to treat CM as an extended form of all pick or something. Maybe I'm just an asshole, but at least I tend to win games where I get to draft properly unless people afk or something.
I ask people what they would like to play because sometimes they want decent picks and you a better off building a team around some heros that people know how to play, rather than just forcing them into something they have no idea how to play with and will feed.
That said, if i have picked a couple and someone wants something completely ridiculous, I wont get it for them. So i try to do both.
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On December 02 2013 00:41 juracule wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 17:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 01 2013 14:09 juracule wrote:
Like a month ago I had really nice games, very close every single time.
But now I just keep getting matched with absolute retards. Dropped from 51.7% winrate all they way down to 51.1% with about 2k games played. And then when I check the dotabuff page I see I am getting paired with some 48% winrate scrublet with 600 games who "rushes" a 35 min vanguard. Seriously valve, what the fuck. Lol, you dropped .4% winrate without playing any more games. That's impressive. On November 25 2013 04:35 juracule wrote:
Went from a 51.7 winrate to a 51.5 winrate with 2000 games played over the span of a weekend, due to getting paired with people with a 48% winrate.
Volvo wat is dis matchmaking. Because when you play about 50 more games since you last posted here its not about 2000? Find it more impressive how can you make such a dumb remark.
Oh shit, this guy was actually serious?
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On December 02 2013 08:00 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 07:24 Salazarz wrote:
I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad. Why the FUCK would you grab cap over a 4 man premade? they qued together and probably know what they work well with and what they dont like to do. When you solo into CM and INSTA pick the 4 lock has every right to yell at you because you are being stupid. Whenever i solo que CM i NEVER take cap unless a good 5 seconds have gone by and nobody else takes it. I get so damned pissed when i 4 lock and some dumbass steals cap and first bans DS. QQ With my 4 lock today someone stole cap and first ban DS Also ive lost maybe 6 games in a row today, not a good day for dota.
This would make sense if you had any indication that it was a 4 stack you were competing with. You're basically saying "solo queuers should concede by default that they're shittier captains than anyone else, and only try pick captain after asking politely.". Besides, surely with four people in a stack you could mention to the +1 captain that you're a 4 stack and work together to do the draft. Complaining that your captain has picked captain and is using it as a throne for a dictator then I'm with you, but complaining that one person beat all four of your people in captain spam, then awwwww poor muffin
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Personally I think valve should show you the stack breakdown of your team at the start of the game. It would be immensely useful information, and I really don't think there's any big downside.
Seems a waste to just show it at the end, along with the enemy's.
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Play a few games where the team responds to my communication, win all of them and enjoy them. Then volvo starts matching me up with teams consisting of SA's. Basically they are either mute or do play their own little game within a game, or when they respond, it's usually something like "stupid aoifjaeoifj" etc. You basically can't cooperate with them at all.
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On December 02 2013 10:52 Belisarius wrote:
Personally I think valve should show you the stack breakdown of your team at the start of the game. It would be immensely useful information, and I really don't think there's any big downside.
Seems a waste to just show it at the end, along with the enemy's.
It does mean you wouldn't get to play the guessing game of who is/isn't a stack based on who they blame the game on!
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On December 02 2013 10:52 Belisarius wrote:
Personally I think valve should show you the stack breakdown of your team at the start of the game. It would be immensely useful information, and I really don't think there's any big downside.
Seems a waste to just show it at the end, along with the enemy's.
During the loading screen?
Time to quit when the stacks seem to suck! 
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level 17 dark seer plays with our 4 man stack, hes the only real teamfight specalist we have. of course he goes 4 in Q W E and stats. also puts ion shell on me (PA) while i jungle farm all the time, getting CS in that game was way to easy otherwise anyway.
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I can't actually play Carry 
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5 man stack picking this:
Magnus-Pugna-Disruptor-Earth-Weaver.
I usually don't condone QQing about these "tryhard" lineups, but seriously, this made me want to rage, especially since they started spamming the chat with claims of how they were Na'Vi and telling us "don't give up". Another reason why 5 man stacks should be restricted to only queuing for team matches.
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On December 02 2013 16:24 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 10:52 Belisarius wrote:
Personally I think valve should show you the stack breakdown of your team at the start of the game. It would be immensely useful information, and I really don't think there's any big downside.
Seems a waste to just show it at the end, along with the enemy's. During the loading screen? Time to quit when the stacks seem to suck!
At picks then. You only need to do it far enough in that the abandon counts.
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On December 02 2013 17:10 xAdra wrote:
5 man stack picking this:
Magnus-Pugna-Disruptor-Earth-Weaver.
I usually don't condone QQing about these "tryhard" lineups, but seriously, this made me want to rage, especially since they started spamming the chat with claims of how they were Na'Vi and telling us "don't give up". Another reason why 5 man stacks should be restricted to only queuing for team matches.
That is why I only solo queue or play 5-stack, nothing in between
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On December 02 2013 10:47 Staboteur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 08:00 Deathmanbob wrote:On December 02 2013 07:24 Salazarz wrote:
I honestly wish 4-man (and possibly 3-man too, although those aren't nearly as common) groups would be prohibited from queueing for CM mode. Sometimes it's okay but 90% of the time no matter what happens in the game, the 4-stack will blame the one person; and god forbid if the one person ends up being the captain and drafts a hero the 4-stack doesn't like. Maybe it's the same in other game modes too, but holy shit I'm so sick of playing with obnoxious horrible 4-stacks that start going OMG REPORT!!!!! as soon as anything doesn't go there way, even if it's a won game, makes me want to just stop playing.
Really feel like until Valve gives people in pubs any kind of incentive to actually win games (hello, real matchmaking and ladder plz?), the community will just get shittier and shittier, which is sad. Why the FUCK would you grab cap over a 4 man premade? they qued together and probably know what they work well with and what they dont like to do. When you solo into CM and INSTA pick the 4 lock has every right to yell at you because you are being stupid. Whenever i solo que CM i NEVER take cap unless a good 5 seconds have gone by and nobody else takes it. I get so damned pissed when i 4 lock and some dumbass steals cap and first bans DS. QQ With my 4 lock today someone stole cap and first ban DS Also ive lost maybe 6 games in a row today, not a good day for dota. This would make sense if you had any indication that it was a 4 stack you were competing with. You're basically saying "solo queuers should concede by default that they're shittier captains than anyone else, and only try pick captain after asking politely.". Besides, surely with four people in a stack you could mention to the +1 captain that you're a 4 stack and work together to do the draft. Complaining that your captain has picked captain and is using it as a throne for a dictator then I'm with you, but complaining that one person beat all four of your people in captain spam, then awwwww poor muffin
Saying you're a 4 stack works until they are the last to load or they just ignore you. And the worst is when they snag cap and then grab a hero "just for them" im sure you're great on zeus but he doesn't really work with our combo and you are going to get raped by their duel roam supports. It's just so damn frustrating seeing people pick and ban shit that doesnt work in todays game and then call us noobs when we get crushed by their push lineup.
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On December 02 2013 17:33 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 16:24 Zocat wrote:On December 02 2013 10:52 Belisarius wrote:
Personally I think valve should show you the stack breakdown of your team at the start of the game. It would be immensely useful information, and I really don't think there's any big downside.
Seems a waste to just show it at the end, along with the enemy's. During the loading screen? Time to quit when the stacks seem to suck! At picks then. You only need to do it far enough in that the abandon counts.
Abandons only count after either 5 minutes of in-game (not drafting) time or after first blood or after first tower kill. Anything before any of those is no-stats-recorded.
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You're confusing abandon with no stats recorded.
The guy who abandons still gets one counted, and thus potentially goes low prio. That's the mechanic we depend on to stop people abandoning for a whole bunch of reasons, like seeing their teammates pick AM+riki+void. Stacks would be just one more at that point.
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On November 30 2013 01:24 msl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 18:57 -Celestial- wrote:On November 29 2013 17:41 SolarFlare93 wrote:
Supports who think a courier purchase is the only thing that classifies them as a support. When I ask for wards too please they reply "I bought the courier, what more do you want?" End game, "I bought two sets of wards!" Pathetic... Bonus points when they're not even buying Mek or Pipe with the gold they're saving from not buying wards. I really am getting tired od this sentiment. It's pretty telling that it's of special note when a Support has a bad game, but when players picking carry heroes fail it's just a normal game in Dotaland. How about playing support yourself? Nah, rather try to be a hero and complain about the supports when you fail at it....
Sup genius. I played support and little else for six months straight after starting playing DOTA2. I know how to play it so when I see people without a clue it makes me want to put a fist through my screen.
How about cut out the assumptions, eh?
On December 01 2013 18:13 msl wrote:
Most frustrating game ever:
We have weird lanes with Luna & Axe bot, me as Veno mid, Windranger offlane and Furion in the Jungle. But it works, Luna is 9-1 on bot, I am 5-0 as roaming Veno and we take all the outer towers with max poison sting / wards. Everytime the enemy tries to contest my poison and Luna glaives just own them. Then Furion comes out of the jungle with FIRST ITEM RAPIER, proceeds to feed it to the enemy Lifestealer and we loose nearly every fight from there. Enemy also had PL, which until that time we kept down pretty hard and now has room to farm. 35 Minutes later we loose with still more kills on the board but unable to fight against Rapier LS and feed PL.
WHY FURION, WHY?
Have to say that's quite a ballsy way to play, Rapier first Furion. In theory lets you jump in on any early fight with your teleport and absolutely murder the opponents. X-D
Also +1 to the "4-stacks are generally awful when solo" crowd. I only ever queue for solo players only these days unless I have to play in the general pool because a few friends want to stack. Its almost impossible to get a good game when playing as the extra player to a 4-stack because they rarely speak unless you start losing at which point they typically whine incessantly and blame you for everything.
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once again i just played the worst games ever in soloq
"guys...am has no farm against kunkka+lich. what a noob! report him!"
and of course the usual stuff like you pick a mid hero and buy your items and the last guy on your team picks sf, demands mid and feeds
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I feel like quitting dota... This game just makes me rage so hard at the sheer level of stupidity I have to deal with in some pubs... I had a game where luna just presses R... and there's 7 creeps around her in a team fight. I had a game where my friend called mid in the chat then the next two pick Mirana and Invoker... trilaned mid... same game Mirana complains where I am as Clockwerk when that lane was not safe at all to walk forward when CM, Pudge and Bane and proceeds to feed 4 times. Another game I have to deal with a Crystal Maiden who doesn't buy the courier, buys like what? 1 set of wards, barely any dust, proceeds to do nothing productive other than be dead weight while NP and I as clockwerk buy wards, dust, sentries, courier, upgraded it and continued to ward throughout the entire game... Game is ending, wasn't entirely her fault we lost, but out of complete honesty, I'm sick of morons who pick a support hero and then try to carry.
All I ask for is to be matched with people with similar skill and knowledge of the game to me. I love this game and some of the people I've met so far in some of the games I've had (which are rare...) but it's getting unbearably irritating dealing with idiots...
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Hit a game ending blind hook on opponent carry, my team had so retarded players that feel bad for opponents
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Ember spirit going: Arcane into bloodstone and feeds a 10 minute blink dagger to earthshaker. We would have won the baserace too, or simply wouldn't have needed to go into a baserace, if only we had more firepower. But no, bloodstone and yolo ulti jumps ftw
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