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On November 19 2013 19:55 xAdra wrote:
How the heck do you fight a death prophet? Seems like if she has decent support from other heroes her exorcism is just an oncoming wave of death and you can't do anything to stop it. Perhaps this is what it felt like to fight the Colossus deathball in the early days of WoL?
I think one of the heroes which could fight a Death Prophet is Phantom Lancer - with an accumulation of illusions, the damage can be spread out among the illusions leaving the real PL being harmed less. An item that can assist with Death Prophet's ultimate is manta style. Just my thoughts on how to deal with DP. Chaos Knight could work too with his illusions. Although her nuke could render the illusions quite useless...
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On November 19 2013 19:55 xAdra wrote:
How the heck do you fight a death prophet? Seems like if she has decent support from other heroes her exorcism is just an oncoming wave of death and you can't do anything to stop it. Perhaps this is what it felt like to fight the Colossus deathball in the early days of WoL?
If she does not have bkb (most of the times she does not), blademail will work wonders against her ultimate, assuming you have as much hp as she does, add an orchid to that she will drop fast, since she can't turn it off.
If she does have a bkb, it's more complicated.You need to burst her down quickly  .
Armor will help against her ult, since it's physical dmg. (shivas, AC, etc).
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On November 19 2013 21:17 SolarFlare93 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 19:55 xAdra wrote:
How the heck do you fight a death prophet? Seems like if she has decent support from other heroes her exorcism is just an oncoming wave of death and you can't do anything to stop it. Perhaps this is what it felt like to fight the Colossus deathball in the early days of WoL? I think one of the heroes which could fight a Death Prophet is Phantom Lancer - with an accumulation of illusions, the damage can be spread out among the illusions leaving the real PL being harmed less. An item that can assist with Death Prophet's ultimate is manta style. Just my thoughts on how to deal with DP. Chaos Knight could work too with his illusions. Although her nuke could render the illusions quite useless...
On November 19 2013 22:04 Korrawi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 19:55 xAdra wrote:
How the heck do you fight a death prophet? Seems like if she has decent support from other heroes her exorcism is just an oncoming wave of death and you can't do anything to stop it. Perhaps this is what it felt like to fight the Colossus deathball in the early days of WoL? If she does not have bkb (most of the times she does not), blademail will work wonders against her ultimate, assuming you have as much hp as she does, add an orchid to that she will drop fast, since she can't turn it off. If she does have a bkb, it's more complicated.You need to burst her down quickly . Armor will help against her ult, since it's physical dmg. (shivas, AC, etc).
Thanks guys- I didn't think about the ghosts spreading based on how many targets there are. Though being a support player if my team's carry doesn't do well enough we simply cant fight the death prophet.
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"Oh, i died in our jungle to a nyx, ah well better go back to farming in our jungle when i respawn"
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
fucking scumbags who make it their mission to fuck up other peoples games piss me off
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be spirit breaker
be on a lane with skywrath that is autoattacking creeps
tell him to stop
he doesn't
get 0 lasthits, nor does he
decide to roam lvl 4
he follows me in the jungle
i charge he stands a minute in jungle and pings our lane
20 seconds later he dies the first time
he proceeds to die like 4-5 more times (lost lane)
i am underfarmed for the first 10 minutes
too weak to kill anything because i couldnt get lasthits early
game end 5-8-8 spirit breaker in pubs (wtf)
still won because we had a good ta on our team
The annoying thing is if i had a solo-lane early i would have been way better off, just by being in the lane with him my whole game was gimped. I got my items too late, i started roaming with brown boots and a half done urn, usually when i start roaming i have power treads and finished urn at least.
So what should i do if i have someone in my lane that completly ruins the lane? (in general not just spirit breaker) go roam? jungle? ragequit?
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Played four games last night, everything after the first was awful. The worst one we had Enchantress, Mirana, Spirit Breaker, Clinkz, and me on Venge. I was thinking yeah, Mirana solo offlane, SB and I on safelane, Clinkz mid, Enchantress jungle. Clinkz mid isn't amazing but hey.
Nope. Enchantress is on safelane with me, SB and Mirana go hardlane, Clinkz mid. And Enchantress is autoattacking like her life depends on it. I was paying attention, and statistically, just by chance she should have at least gotten some last hits. No. Not a one, and it was nearly impossible for me to get any because she pushed the wave all the way up to the tower and kept it there, while their mid troll is having a field day ganking constantly.
No wards, because I was the only one with sense to buy them, but I also didn't have any farm. I was going to try and salvage this trainwreck a little bit by pulling, but every time I tried she would go back away from the tower and enchant one of the neutrals (no, not one of the useful ones, one of the ones that do nothing), then autoattack the creep camps. I got no money, little XP, and we somehow managed to push even worse than before. I wanted to punch my fist through my monitor just so I didn't have to see it happening anymore. Finally my brain quit when Mirana asked "Why SB no stun? You don't cast stun."
"You mean Charge? Or ulti?"
"No, punch. Punch and stun. Cast punch and stun enemies, get kills." I can't take this.
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Well I used to love Captain's draft but now I think that mode's not great for solo queue at all. Twice today I've had people completely ignore my laning requests because they didn't get the hero they want or they didn't like the draft I made. Picked a nature's prophet to solo the offlane vs a no stun trilane and the guy that picks NP determines that the draft is horrible and wants to dual jungle with my enigma pick instead.
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SoCal8933 Posts
i think there is something seriously off with valve's matchmaking since diretide. might be the influx of people playing a different game mode but i have had some seriously braindead allies for the past couple games...
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On November 19 2013 22:30 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 21:17 SolarFlare93 wrote:On November 19 2013 19:55 xAdra wrote:
How the heck do you fight a death prophet? Seems like if she has decent support from other heroes her exorcism is just an oncoming wave of death and you can't do anything to stop it. Perhaps this is what it felt like to fight the Colossus deathball in the early days of WoL? I think one of the heroes which could fight a Death Prophet is Phantom Lancer - with an accumulation of illusions, the damage can be spread out among the illusions leaving the real PL being harmed less. An item that can assist with Death Prophet's ultimate is manta style. Just my thoughts on how to deal with DP. Chaos Knight could work too with his illusions. Although her nuke could render the illusions quite useless... Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 22:04 Korrawi wrote:On November 19 2013 19:55 xAdra wrote:
How the heck do you fight a death prophet? Seems like if she has decent support from other heroes her exorcism is just an oncoming wave of death and you can't do anything to stop it. Perhaps this is what it felt like to fight the Colossus deathball in the early days of WoL? If she does not have bkb (most of the times she does not), blademail will work wonders against her ultimate, assuming you have as much hp as she does, add an orchid to that she will drop fast, since she can't turn it off. If she does have a bkb, it's more complicated.You need to burst her down quickly . Armor will help against her ult, since it's physical dmg. (shivas, AC, etc). Thanks guys- I didn't think about the ghosts spreading based on how many targets there are. Though being a support player if my team's carry doesn't do well enough we simply cant fight the death prophet.
The way to deal with DP is to kill her early, ALL THE FUCKING TIME. She is such shit early game because of how squishy she is. If you get a stun on her in mid (im assuming shes going mid) you can kill her with just 2 heros)
Now if you cant kill her, shes just a monster in the late game and shes wrecking face. You want to bait out her ult away from towers and then engage when its down. It's not easy but if you can do it you should win the teamfight.
Heros like storm are also really good if you can zip in and disable her early.
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All random, get
Chen
Disruptor
Lycan
TA
Doom
Against 5 melee
Doom immediately throws a hissy fit (I was tempted to screenshot it, he was that bad) when we suggest he go bot lane because "Doom cant lane". That was his reason for everything.
Flaming everyone on the team and getting reported? "You made me lane"
Yolodive into 3 people? "That's what you get for making me lane"
Building naked radiance at 30 minutes? "Can't blame me for farm when you made me lane"
Chen disagrees with you? He's alternating Russian/Brazilian as evident by his perfect English
They're 5 melee
You have a built-in midas
Built-in regen with run-away speed
Free kill at level 6
God forbid you have to get sustainable farm/exp at the expense of playing PvP
It's not even like he did poorly. Disruptor switched over to help him and he got a kill out of it. Still abandons as soon as he has a basi to eat chen's jungle.
Sad part was we were getting stomped, actually came back, and then disruptor and him both DC out of nowhere.
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Lost a 30 candy lead cuz people decided it was best to retreat to our mid tower rather than go up defend our bucket (radiant side)
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On November 20 2013 06:15 Shadetree wrote:
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Finally my brain quit when Mirana asked "Why SB no stun? You don't cast stun."
"You mean Charge? Or ulti?"
"No, punch. Punch and stun. Cast punch and stun enemies, get kills." I can't take this.
HAHAHHA you have made my day. My sympathies.
(Greater Bash is indeed a pretty good spell.)
My QQ: Played against a Tinker and Beastmaster. Tinker teleports to BM's bird , blink -> laser -> dagon -> kill. Again... and again... and again. All our T2s are up and I can't even leave the base... He ended up 40-2 or some such  At least I only gave him about nine of those kills.
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welp after a good run of games starting with captains draft, it has apparently turned into "pick the hero i call for or i feed"
great
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I'm Luna top lane as radiant with my friend on skywrath. We are against a tri of LS, Tide and Lich - we both die quite early since we underestimate their killing potential as soon as we are slightly out of position. So we cannot literally leave the tower as lich and tide zone us out every time and we risk dying if we get a miniscule amount of out position.
So we call for help because we are barely getting XP. Nothing. Our mid mirana autoatacks creps for 15 min and does nothing. Buys the teams THIRD ring of basilus at 15min with her brown boots and wraith band. So lifestealer has 100% freefarm, me and sky are like lvl 5 vs their lvl 7-8. Things are looking fucked. At like 17min windrunner comes top, we kill LS once. The saving grace hre is LS goes for a goddamn SHADOWBLADE(?!?!) and our Sven at bot somehow manages to kill clockwork twice.
Comeback inc, i get to farm, Sven is farmed, we are rolling them in teamfights. Enter Sven, time to throw. Four "teamfights" in a row when they are pushing us he just runs in before i have even TPd to the goddamn base and dies. Then bitches at me "omg luna not even use ult or bkb wtf" - Yeah you goddamn asshat i wasn't even anywhere near you. We cannot win fights without him, lose horribly. Sven blames team, esp me, for being terrible.
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Playing single draft as dire. Top lane tidehunter with necrolyte vs magnus and cm. Get first blood, go 3-0 top. Then suddenly its 3-8; zeus mid killed mirana, en our bot lane fed 7 kills. Get this: dire spirit breaker and PA go 0-7 vs a Rikki and CM.
From there zeus just ganks us to death, rikki gets madly farmed. SB finished a 50 min game with 0-16-10. PA got a 40 min battlefury. I did an awesome Blink-ravage AWAY from the teamfight. FML
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Baltimore, USA22260 Posts
I should've known it was going to be a bad night when I saw this.
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2 heads = 2 bottles
seems perfectly fine to me
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No orb of venom, failmagi :p
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You dont need perfect items to play Ogre (hey, thats almost a Euls!), just perfect skills.
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EPT
