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Dentz
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia50 Posts
November 21 2013 08:23 GMT
#16701
CM + Alch safelane lost to a timbersaw/broodmother lane
and by lost i mean got completely stomped

how does that even happen rofl


icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 21 2013 08:40 GMT
#16702
well, broodmother does have an easy nuke and hard to kill due to invis and no collision and timbersaw is pretty tanky and does pure damage (and more damage to str heroes)

not really that surprising
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
November 21 2013 08:45 GMT
#16703
Played an AP last game. Randomned Shadow Fiend and I end up laning with a horrible Ogre Magi. We had 2 supports on the team and yet nobody got wards. Unless I bought them, the entire map was fucking dark. Then came the ganks. I was farming well early so naturally they wanted to shut me down. 3 and 4 man ganks soon start raping me bot without any mia's called and nobody bothering to tp. I try to farm to get back into it but our BS fuckin discs once it started looking like we might possibly pull a win out of our ass.

Oh well, at least I got a mythical drop after putting up with that shit...

"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Dentz
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia50 Posts
November 21 2013 09:09 GMT
#16704
On November 21 2013 17:40 icystorage wrote:
well, broodmother does have an easy nuke and hard to kill due to invis and no collision and timbersaw is pretty tanky and does pure damage (and more damage to str heroes)

not really that surprising


I checked the replay a bit and alch went greevils greed, and CM didnt get frost bite until level 3 or 4
it wasnt just losing in c/s though, it was feeding kills as well
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 21 2013 11:38 GMT
#16705
On November 21 2013 18:09 Dentz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 17:40 icystorage wrote:
well, broodmother does have an easy nuke and hard to kill due to invis and no collision and timbersaw is pretty tanky and does pure damage (and more damage to str heroes)

not really that surprising


I checked the replay a bit and alch went greevils greed, and CM didnt get frost bite until level 3 or 4
it wasnt just losing in c/s though, it was feeding kills as well


You still shouldn't underestimate nontraditional dual lanes. Even if alch maxes stun he's pretty easy to blow up pre-6 and once CM blows her cooldowns she's basically fresh meat for a brood nuke+timber all-in.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
November 21 2013 11:50 GMT
#16706
brood/timber has advantage vs alc/cm for sure
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
November 21 2013 12:08 GMT
#16707
On November 21 2013 16:59 pyro19 wrote:
I've lost 14 out of my last 17 matches.
I refuse to believe I'm that bad at this game


Don't worry, streaks happen. I had a 9 game losing streak once, nothing to do but play the next game and try to be better.
Support TONY best TONY
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 21 2013 14:39 GMT
#16708
I don't get how it's possible to be so bad at PL. At some point your brain should be able to deduce that fighting = bad, letting your clones fight = good

but no, this guy was just grade A retard. We could've won easily if he was even a little good.

Goddamn I'm pissed.

Also Mirana that held on to the gem instead of leave it at the fountain - why? why on earth would you do that when we have 4 characters with invis (me as Nyx, Mirana ult, PL, SK sand) and they have none?

and then they blame the picks when we should've won by all measures
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 15:40:41
November 21 2013 15:39 GMT
#16709
On November 21 2013 20:38 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 18:09 Dentz wrote:
On November 21 2013 17:40 icystorage wrote:
well, broodmother does have an easy nuke and hard to kill due to invis and no collision and timbersaw is pretty tanky and does pure damage (and more damage to str heroes)

not really that surprising


I checked the replay a bit and alch went greevils greed, and CM didnt get frost bite until level 3 or 4
it wasnt just losing in c/s though, it was feeding kills as well


You still shouldn't underestimate nontraditional dual lanes. Even if alch maxes stun he's pretty easy to blow up pre-6 and once CM blows her cooldowns she's basically fresh meat for a brood nuke+timber all-in.


You reminded me of war3 alche trolly voice:' wanna blow something up?'. Miss that voice!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
November 21 2013 16:01 GMT
#16710
On November 21 2013 17:23 Dentz wrote:
CM + Alch safelane lost to a timbersaw/broodmother lane
and by lost i mean got completely stomped

how does that even happen rofl



Because supports never buy support items like sentry wards
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
November 21 2013 17:03 GMT
#16711
Lion skills hex at lvl 10. Pls, Icefrog buff Hex, its still underpowered, mana drain still better shit.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 17:07:29
November 21 2013 17:06 GMT
#16712
Competitive lions go 3 stun 2 hex 1 ult at 6 so... false lol.

In pubs I go 4/1/2/1 at 8 and then decide from there how valuable extra points in drain are (SKELETON KING? NOM NOM MANA etc). Having infinite mana is very attractive. Skipping hex is just broadcasting that you are fucking awful at dota.

E: oops i probably misread the post didn't quite realize which thread i was in sorry.
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Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 17:12:52
November 21 2013 17:12 GMT
#16713
In 5 team fights we kill their entire team. Should we push? NO, let's farm and let them get back into the game and then rape us!
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
November 21 2013 17:53 GMT
#16714
On November 22 2013 02:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
Competitive lions go 3 stun 2 hex 1 ult at 6 so... false lol.

In pubs I go 4/1/2/1 at 8 and then decide from there how valuable extra points in drain are (SKELETON KING? NOM NOM MANA etc). Having infinite mana is very attractive. Skipping hex is just broadcasting that you are fucking awful at dota.

E: oops i probably misread the post didn't quite realize which thread i was in sorry.

Hahaha. Also he was calling others for being bad and fed hard
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
November 21 2013 18:11 GMT
#16715
On November 21 2013 20:38 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 18:09 Dentz wrote:
On November 21 2013 17:40 icystorage wrote:
well, broodmother does have an easy nuke and hard to kill due to invis and no collision and timbersaw is pretty tanky and does pure damage (and more damage to str heroes)

not really that surprising


I checked the replay a bit and alch went greevils greed, and CM didnt get frost bite until level 3 or 4
it wasnt just losing in c/s though, it was feeding kills as well


You still shouldn't underestimate nontraditional dual lanes. Even if alch maxes stun he's pretty easy to blow up pre-6 and once CM blows her cooldowns she's basically fresh meat for a brood nuke+timber all-in.

There are a lot of really bizarre and dangerous dual lane combos that can shit on trilanes right now. A hero that might fit into a 6.78 offlane like Clock, Timber, etc. plus a hero with strong burst like Pugna or TA is a recipe for trouble. I honestly think that putting Leshrac and Clock together in a lane might be the most hilariously overpowered thing I've ever seen from a dual lane.
But then again, thinking about lane combos as static is a bit useless right now... having swaps and changes as necessary is gonna work a lot better.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 21 2013 18:12 GMT
#16716
Clock DarkSeer can be hilariously strong. It even worked on the previous patch.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 21 2013 18:14 GMT
#16717
Real men run invoker/Darkseer dual lane. Cold snap + ion shell is unbelievably unfair :D (yes your opponents have to be stupid).

Plus u can go invis with opvoker so invis + ion shell wambo cambo
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 21 2013 19:26 GMT
#16718
On November 21 2013 17:23 Dentz wrote:
CM + Alch safelane lost to a timbersaw/broodmother lane
and by lost i mean got completely stomped

how does that even happen rofl

Honestly a decent Broodmother can virtually win that lane 1v2. Broodmother wins almost all 1v1s and a very large percentage of 1v2s.

The extra hero doesn't make it worse for her if it means greater kill threat and higher chance of getting to Soul Ring.

It's pretty much the only thing Broodmother is any good at, but people don't respect how crushingly powerful Broodmother is in any lane that isn't picked to directly counter her.
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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
November 21 2013 19:53 GMT
#16719
On November 21 2013 23:39 hooahah wrote:
I don't get how it's possible to be so bad at PL. At some point your brain should be able to deduce that fighting = bad, letting your clones fight = good

but no, this guy was just grade A retard. We could've won easily if he was even a little good.

Goddamn I'm pissed.

Also Mirana that held on to the gem instead of leave it at the fountain - why? why on earth would you do that when we have 4 characters with invis (me as Nyx, Mirana ult, PL, SK sand) and they have none?

and then they blame the picks when we should've won by all measures


People have no idea that pre heart PL should not be anywhere near the other teams heros and it should be his clones. I mean when the fight is winding down sure, or skirt to the side and get on some supports. But a man mode yolo fight with your hero pre heart is a great way to die as PL
No Artosis, you are robin
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
November 21 2013 20:03 GMT
#16720
So can people please ffs pick heroes that do damage
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