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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
November 18 2013 07:20 GMT
#16621
People who haven't even played one game of Ember Spirit need to stop telling me how to build him. Holy fuck it's like everyone thinks they have perfect theorycraft. Every single game, even across all the different skill and item builds I'm testing.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
November 18 2013 07:46 GMT
#16622
Sylla is apparently not a genius pick in Diretide. I thought 10 rapiers and 2 daedalae was a good idea, but the bear takes damage from the other team

Also I tried to use a recipe and my armory broke; can't sort it and didn't get an item.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
November 18 2013 10:35 GMT
#16623
Looks like valve doesnt want our money, new sets look worse and worse
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 18 2013 11:12 GMT
#16624
On November 18 2013 19:35 StoRm_res wrote:
Looks like valve doesnt want our money, new sets look worse and worse


this is indeed a worthy qq
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 12:17:25
November 18 2013 12:11 GMT
#16625
Had the worst game for a very long time. I generally play support but I wanted to play some carry today. First pick is Nature's Prophet on our team so we have a jungler. I pick Luna. I enjoy playing this hero and I know how it works. The other team has a PL so late game I would be able to eliminate his illusions. Since we have a jungler, the next pick is Windrunner. Reasonable choices. We have Huskar going mid. The last bloody genius picks Doom, proceeds to go safe lane, contests my farm the entire early game. I have nothing. 2 last hits... I felt so pathetic and apologized to my other team mates and pointed out this genius is contesting my farm. Continues to do so. So I'm so far behind I can't do anything apart from using my ultimate in team fights. I try to farm everywhere I can - every time I TP into an empty lane, huskar shows up and takes all my farm and I end up trying to contest him for it. Prophet uses his ultimate and all the creeps are dead. Doom does the same shit he always does. Why can't I have a game where I get to FARM with a proper support!? I play support all day and get people free farm or decent farm yet every time I play a pub, all these dipshits contest my safe lane farm when I pick a carry. Furthermore, this Doom can't even play... in team fights he retreats before everyone else... he can't do anything useful in team fights either, I blow my ulti and die instantly as I have no items to give me HP and shit...

http://dotabuff.com/matches/389847490

Edit: Prophet tried his best to make me room, and Windrunner warded and stuff... I tried to safely farm as much as I could but them kept pushing as 5 man squad, hence our jungle was no safe. I had to take risks and well, stupid stupid decisions led to 6 deaths. The other 2 from the final attempt to defend :/ Also alternatively Doom could have went offlane and windrunner safe lane... this would have been a better setup but they both refused to even contemplate the idea...
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 12:42:35
November 18 2013 12:41 GMT
#16626
I can only guess that you got too fixated on the fact that you couldn't farm as well as you'd have liked and didn't pay enough attention to teamfights and ganks. Your overall impact is far lower than windrunner's, despite having more gold, more items, and the same levels. You were only involved in 6 out of your team's 22 kills, which isn't acceptable. Playing with your team is how you catch up. The doom you're so upset with was involved in one more kill but had four fewer deaths. So while I would describe his involvement as being equally unacceptable, his presence on the team appears to have been slightly less detrimental. Additionally your items choices weren't smart. Early Dominator Yasha pickups are only useful if you have the room to afk-farm for 30 minutes, which you made very clear was not the case. Those items don't help you in teamfights, which is what you should've been focused on. I'm not surprised you found yourself being useless in fights given that you lacked a BKB vs a Jakiro, Nyx, and Crystal Maiden, not to mention the Radiance burn of PL.

So overall I strongly disagree with your sentiment that you were forced to take risks and farm in unsafe regions-- doing so was your mistake.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
November 18 2013 13:02 GMT
#16627
Just found out, that my "once was" strange cape for invoker wont change names anymore thx Volvo T_T
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
November 18 2013 13:09 GMT
#16628
Im going to go ahead and QQ while in draft. Guy picks cap and ban pudge, i ask why and someone else goes thats a good ban. Right off the bat i know this is not oging to be fun

First pick on their team is a lion, ours is enigma weaver. Nothing about these picks are bad its just the order lets me think the rest of this team is going to suck something hard
No Artosis, you are robin
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#16629
playing against ember spirit: 15:1 after midgame
playing with ember spirit: FIRST BLOOD
passive quaranstream fan
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
November 18 2013 13:34 GMT
#16630
On November 18 2013 22:20 Artisreal wrote:
playing against ember spirit: 15:1 after midgame
playing with ember spirit: FIRST BLOOD

ember spirit is the new pudge
the throws never bothered me anyway
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
November 18 2013 15:10 GMT
#16631
On November 18 2013 22:09 Deathmanbob wrote:
Im going to go ahead and QQ while in draft. Guy picks cap and ban pudge, i ask why and someone else goes thats a good ban. Right off the bat i know this is not oging to be fun

First pick on their team is a lion, ours is enigma weaver. Nothing about these picks are bad its just the order lets me think the rest of this team is going to suck something hard


Let me tell you, you'll win this game but just because the opponent is worse than your team
My 2 cents pls..
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 15:16:35
November 18 2013 15:16 GMT
#16632
4-15 my score in two days... nice games...
willstertben
Profile Joined May 2013
427 Posts
November 18 2013 17:44 GMT
#16633
why do you even pick support if you're not gonna buy wards? and then when i ask you to buy wards you rage at me and tell me to buy them myself? fuck you dude.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
November 18 2013 17:55 GMT
#16634
On November 19 2013 00:10 Laserist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 22:09 Deathmanbob wrote:
Im going to go ahead and QQ while in draft. Guy picks cap and ban pudge, i ask why and someone else goes thats a good ban. Right off the bat i know this is not oging to be fun

First pick on their team is a lion, ours is enigma weaver. Nothing about these picks are bad its just the order lets me think the rest of this team is going to suck something hard


Let me tell you, you'll win this game but just because the opponent is worse than your team
My 2 cents pls..


You were right, luckliy their team was worse, their best player was on DP and got a quick 25 charge BS and a heart. But if you kill her enough she becomes useless and we won the game.
Our void did get a ags though, saying how great a item it was.
No Artosis, you are robin
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 18:56:03
November 18 2013 18:55 GMT
#16635
new low priority system fucking sucks... not that I care about item drops or anything, but I had ONE game where steam kept dropping me because of "no logon" until I eventually received an abandon because of it. Must've gotten reports as well, I guess. Well now I have to actually fucking play 5 games to get back into normal queue instead of taking a break and letting the low priority time out. What a joke
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
November 18 2013 19:02 GMT
#16636
On November 19 2013 03:55 Quotidian wrote:
new low priority system fucking sucks... not that I care about item drops or anything, but I had ONE game where steam kept dropping me because of "no logon" until I eventually received an abandon because of it. Must've gotten reports as well, I guess. Well now I have to actually fucking play 5 games to get back into normal queue instead of taking a break and letting the low priority time out. What a joke


Doesn't work that way. You can never get low prio from one game, reports, abandon, or both.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
November 18 2013 19:24 GMT
#16637
2 games and my 4 teammates are just afk while im winning my lane. i love dota
FTD
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
November 18 2013 19:39 GMT
#16638
On November 19 2013 04:02 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 03:55 Quotidian wrote:
new low priority system fucking sucks... not that I care about item drops or anything, but I had ONE game where steam kept dropping me because of "no logon" until I eventually received an abandon because of it. Must've gotten reports as well, I guess. Well now I have to actually fucking play 5 games to get back into normal queue instead of taking a break and letting the low priority time out. What a joke


Doesn't work that way. You can never get low prio from one game, reports, abandon, or both.


How does it work then? I wasn't in low prio before that game, so it's obvious that that abandon is what put me there.. I've been in low prio before, but that was a while ago. I've read that once you've been in low prio once, your account is blacklisted and you get put there again more quickly. But that is also a completely shitty system if that is the case.

I wouldn't mind it if they didn't flash all this stuff in front of you as well, to remind you that you've been a bad boy. The queue times, game quality etc is all mostly the same in low prio, but they're systematically being condescending about it.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
November 18 2013 20:14 GMT
#16639
On November 19 2013 04:39 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 04:02 Excludos wrote:
On November 19 2013 03:55 Quotidian wrote:
new low priority system fucking sucks... not that I care about item drops or anything, but I had ONE game where steam kept dropping me because of "no logon" until I eventually received an abandon because of it. Must've gotten reports as well, I guess. Well now I have to actually fucking play 5 games to get back into normal queue instead of taking a break and letting the low priority time out. What a joke


Doesn't work that way. You can never get low prio from one game, reports, abandon, or both.


How does it work then? I wasn't in low prio before that game, so it's obvious that that abandon is what put me there.. I've been in low prio before, but that was a while ago. I've read that once you've been in low prio once, your account is blacklisted and you get put there again more quickly. But that is also a completely shitty system if that is the case.

I wouldn't mind it if they didn't flash all this stuff in front of you as well, to remind you that you've been a bad boy. The queue times, game quality etc is all mostly the same in low prio, but they're systematically being condescending about it.


For abandons: if you abandon twice within 48 hours, you get put in low prio.
For reports its a bit more complicated. It depends on how many games you have played, the interval between the reports, and how often you've been in low prio before.
The two above does not communicate with each other, so its not possible to get in low prio from one abandon and a report, for instance. So from a single game, you can not get placed in low prio no matter what you do. It has to happen over time.
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
November 18 2013 20:16 GMT
#16640
On November 18 2013 21:41 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I can only guess that you got too fixated on the fact that you couldn't farm as well as you'd have liked and didn't pay enough attention to teamfights and ganks. Your overall impact is far lower than windrunner's, despite having more gold, more items, and the same levels. You were only involved in 6 out of your team's 22 kills, which isn't acceptable. Playing with your team is how you catch up. The doom you're so upset with was involved in one more kill but had four fewer deaths. So while I would describe his involvement as being equally unacceptable, his presence on the team appears to have been slightly less detrimental. Additionally your items choices weren't smart. Early Dominator Yasha pickups are only useful if you have the room to afk-farm for 30 minutes, which you made very clear was not the case. Those items don't help you in teamfights, which is what you should've been focused on. I'm not surprised you found yourself being useless in fights given that you lacked a BKB vs a Jakiro, Nyx, and Crystal Maiden, not to mention the Radiance burn of PL.

So overall I strongly disagree with your sentiment that you were forced to take risks and farm in unsafe regions-- doing so was your mistake.


What do you think I should have done instead? I was thinking of going drums and then into BKB earlier but I was just too mad to think properly.
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