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SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 13:00:44
November 06 2013 12:15 GMT
#16341
Some guy tells BB and I "Why are you jungling, you have lanes" - they're pushed to the enemy tier 2s, what do you want us to do? Run in circles?
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 06 2013 12:59 GMT
#16342
On November 06 2013 21:12 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 20:35 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On November 06 2013 19:48 crimsonSoldier wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:24 xAdra wrote:
Almost managed to carry a team of ultra-retarded Indonesians to victory, but of course after 1 rax was down on both sides they went absolutely ape-shit and kept spamming:
bd
bd
bd
bd
bd
bd
bd
Ultimately feeding all the kills, having no buyback, and allowing enemy to do the fatal push.

At least in Europe/America you only have 1, at most 2 alien nationalities joining your English games. In SEA, anyone who isn't from Malaysia, Singapore, Australia or the ocassional Pinoy is almost nearly bound to suck.

P.S I'm aware there are people from these "other countries" on TL, so I apologize if this offends anyone and by no means am I saying the whole country sucks- I just wish there was a language option for these people.


Holy shit took the words out of my mouth...whenever I see Indonesian or Tagalog in the team convo I have to assume loss in incoming. I have to add one more point though: I love it when there are Chinese in my SEA server games.

I had a Chinese invoker on my team who could not speak english though it was an english-option game. He made up for it by typing in Chinese, followed by asking me to translate to English since I could speak both languages.
So he would say things like, in Chinese:
"I am getting hex. Please translate"
"We are winning. Please translate"
"Push top. Please translate"

He also had the most godly invokes and sunstrikes.



"anyone who isn't from Malaysia, Singapore, Australia or the ocassional Pinoy"
"whenever I see Indonesian or Tagalog in the team convo"

Tagalog/Filipino is the language of Filipinos/Pinoys. Actually a good number of us have functional english, while some have broken english.

But yeah there are still a good number of us who tend to be bad at the game and they are probably newbies and the rest are probably decent or really good. The Dota 2 community (or any online game at all) is pretty harsh here and it either scares people off or drives them to improve.


Yup, I'm aware of that. I have met plenty of decent to excellent Filipino players, but really so many of them come in, claim mid immediately and pick senseless heroes that I, like crimsonSoldier just assume auto loss when I meet them. I guess only the really stupid ones select all language options and end up on our servers. There are probably stupid english speaking people who select all language options and end up on Chinese/Tagalog/Russian servers anyways


So true. That's one of the reasons I no longer queue in SEA. Add to that other Pinoys on your team swearing in their built in/cheap microphones.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
November 06 2013 13:23 GMT
#16343
Heh. Just how clueless people actually are about how this game is played. We're facing a team who is stronger than us (because they won a couple of teamfights and have the upper hand in towers), and they have a tinker and NP who is constantly counterpushing. Someone then goes "Lets push all 5 our only chance!". I explain to them how thats not going to work and he answers "We can't do anything then".

Have you guys never seen a proper game in all your lives? Do you not know what defenders advantage is? Don't you understand the concept of finding an opening?

They actually listen to me a bit and stay put. We managed to get back into the game by defending a couple of times and finding some pickoffs. So what the proper way to proceed now? Wait until they've all spawned and then ALL OUT ATTACK!..we wipe and lose the game.
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
November 06 2013 15:05 GMT
#16344
Queue SD and end up with a guy who is afk until 2 mins in and picks naix. But that's not the worst thing. We also have a Nyx who can't land a single stun, feeds and then disconnects. Seriously, with the majority of my heroes who are at the bottom at the performance list, it's games like this. How is it even possible? Valve needs to invent a system that will permaban people who ragequits in the middle of a game and screws it for everyone else.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
November 06 2013 15:33 GMT
#16345
why are people picking support if they dont want to support? Pugna boots first rushing agha is just painful, ofc not getting courier and not getting wards or helping in any way.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 06 2013 15:44 GMT
#16346
On November 07 2013 00:33 idonthinksobro wrote:
why are people picking support if they dont want to support? Pugna boots first rushing agha is just painful, ofc not getting courier and not getting wards or helping in any way.

It seems that they have been watching too much competitive DotA, Pugna isn't played as support there.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
November 06 2013 15:46 GMT
#16347
On November 07 2013 00:33 idonthinksobro wrote:
why are people picking support if they dont want to support? Pugna boots first rushing agha is just painful, ofc not getting courier and not getting wards or helping in any way.



Yeah I had a game the other day and asked for wards from a windrunner and Pugna, and they both told me to buy them myself .
I was TA, who is heavily farm dependent. Against a brood mother and a bounty hunter and I ended up buying dust and sentries to deal with them. ><
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 06 2013 15:49 GMT
#16348
On November 07 2013 00:33 idonthinksobro wrote:
why are people picking support if they dont want to support? Pugna boots first rushing agha is just painful, ofc not getting courier and not getting wards or helping in any way.


Pugna is not a support by definition. Liquid vs. NaVi (5 games between sunday and monday) included four farming pugnas I think.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
November 06 2013 16:04 GMT
#16349
On November 07 2013 00:46 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 00:33 idonthinksobro wrote:
why are people picking support if they dont want to support? Pugna boots first rushing agha is just painful, ofc not getting courier and not getting wards or helping in any way.



Yeah I had a game the other day and asked for wards from a windrunner and Pugna, and they both told me to buy them myself .
I was TA, who is heavily farm dependent. Against a brood mother and a bounty hunter and I ended up buying dust and sentries to deal with them. ><


150 gp after 12-14 min doesn't hinder your farm that much. You are not playing against Alliance at the end of the day, there is always room for it, even for a farming mid TA.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 06 2013 16:22 GMT
#16350
The point is that people pick supports but don't understand the "1-5" system. They think supports are healers/nukers/whatever and just as farm-dependent (and deserving) as carries.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 06 2013 16:52 GMT
#16351
On November 07 2013 01:22 hooahah wrote:
The point is that people pick supports but don't understand the "1-5" system. They think supports are healers/nukers/whatever and just as farm-dependent (and deserving) as carries.


No, the point is that people play in pubs but don't understand the pubby mentality. They think people will follow the 1-5 system and would rather go without vision than buy wards themselves.

150 gold if you need the vision is not that big of a deal, and will often (in my experience) guilt your supports into buying them in the future if they see their mid TA buying wards/dust.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
November 06 2013 17:58 GMT
#16352
it is not just 150 gold, using the wards you bought is like another wasted minute at least, you need time to get it and especially if you are mid you are likely to lose the rune game if you have to buy wards yourself and don't have vision from the start. And if you delay bottle too long and even need to get courier yourself too, you might as well give up mid at that point and go roaming.

Might not be as bad for TA because she can use the traps and is really quick but everyone else in the middle is just fcked if they don't have a decent supporter.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 06 2013 18:06 GMT
#16353
On November 07 2013 02:58 idonthinksobro wrote:
it is not just 150 gold, using the wards you bought is like another wasted minute at least, you need time to get it and especially if you are mid you are likely to lose the rune game if you have to buy wards yourself and don't have vision from the start. And if you delay bottle too long and even need to get courier yourself too, you might as well give up mid at that point and go roaming.

Might not be as bad for TA because she can use the traps and is really quick but everyone else in the middle is just fcked if they don't have a decent supporter.

I almost always buy the second set of wards when I'm mid, not a big deal. It surely help my team a lot.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
November 06 2013 18:08 GMT
#16354
On November 07 2013 00:49 Oukka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 00:33 idonthinksobro wrote:
why are people picking support if they dont want to support? Pugna boots first rushing agha is just painful, ofc not getting courier and not getting wards or helping in any way.


Pugna is not a support by definition. Liquid vs. NaVi (5 games between sunday and monday) included four farming pugnas I think.


In a pub you simply shouldnt assume that anybody is support based on their Hero. I make a point of asking the players playing "classic" support Heros if they are Support or farming and pick acordingly.
Support TONY best TONY
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2013 18:13 GMT
#16355
On November 07 2013 03:08 msl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 00:49 Oukka wrote:
On November 07 2013 00:33 idonthinksobro wrote:
why are people picking support if they dont want to support? Pugna boots first rushing agha is just painful, ofc not getting courier and not getting wards or helping in any way.


Pugna is not a support by definition. Liquid vs. NaVi (5 games between sunday and monday) included four farming pugnas I think.


In a pub you simply shouldnt assume that anybody is support based on their Hero. I make a point of asking the players playing "classic" support Heros if they are Support or farming and pick acordingly.

It's better to just ask who is going to get wards and go from there. I always ask and I'll even buy the second set if I am mid. Item timings are great, but vision is better.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 19:02:44
November 06 2013 18:59 GMT
#16356
So I had just come out of a lost game where I mistakenly went hood instead of BKB on alchemist. I go into another game, and lucky me, it's a 4 stack letting me pick alch again to remedy my mistake, and carry them to victory.

First 3 minutes, everything's going well, I get like 90% of last hits, the Mirana isn't getting much fame, and then I want to ask for a tango, but I realize that since I'm playing on my laptop my vchat command isn't set. So I head into the shop, and head to options to fix it, and right when I get back I get hit by an arrow, and mirana kills me. I hadn't walked far enough into the fucking shop to be unseen by the Mirana.

Afterwards, they start talking about why they dont know why i just stood there. I'm too embarassed to talk at this point.

So I get back to farming, and before I know it another arrow hit me while I was focusing on berating myself (as if they weren't doing a good enough job already), and I die again.

And it happens one more time when I was trying to get a last hit on a creep, then I get dps'd down from full HP by a bunch of ranged creeps + the now fed Mirana.

Mirana proceeds to start steamrolling, and at this point all 4 of them are blaming me. I tell them I might as well abandon at this point, and they agree. I do so.

just pisssed that people can be so mean when i'm already kicking myself so hard for fucking up 3 times in a row, proceeding to me kicking myself harder for making people mad at me + letting them down. to make things worse, i was in tears while writing the post.

well, the only thing to do now is play more alch in cm so i can actually l2p
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 22:11:29
November 06 2013 20:35 GMT
#16357
After seeing the other team pick Pudge and our team having a random TA, guy picks Shadow Fiend, buys courier, goes mid and feeds, doesn't call missing, goes top and calls gank on QoP before attacking weaver, blames noob team and DC's at 1-4 at 7 minutes. I was laning with a windrunner. Did the patch change things so that windrunner arrows are melee now? Cuz she only fought bristleback and mirana when she was right on top of bristleback. Fucking idiots.

Then my next game started with a guy (aptly named DENDI) dc'ing before we even selected heroes. We had timber, puck, pudge, meepo. Stupidest team ever? Almost.
Dual mid lane SF and Drow against my puck. A few well timed phase shifts and harassment orbs, and 3 guys on their team DC. Those were the only two games I could play today. And they were both stupid.
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 06 2013 22:25 GMT
#16358
Got to lane as slardar vs tidehunter/dazzle, and all i had was a kotl to support me. Not a fun lane i can tell you that i did not die that much but i just couldn't come close to the creepwave.
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
November 06 2013 22:31 GMT
#16359
So at 0:00 rubick lifted me onto a rune cliff, i was solo necro offlane. Figured cute but nbd, my teammates bought me a tp, so I should be ok.
Fun fact: un-upgraded courier can not pass items over cliffs.
Fun fact #2: You can not upgrade courier till 3 minutes in after the patch.

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when i finally got the tp, that sadist came back and cancelled my first attempt:D
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 22:33 GMT
#16360
According to reddit theres a way to pass the TP up-cliff with the walking courier

Also from the cliff you should hopefully have vision to make sure he isn't coming to pick u up again before you tp lol.
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