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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 16:08:41
October 02 2013 16:07 GMT
#15421
On October 03 2013 01:02 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:22 HollowLord wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:11 BlitzerSC wrote:
Hardlane sylla sucks.


I'm sorry, what? No.


Sylla needs items and levels which you won't get in the hardlane. A Sylla without items is useless and if your bear dies you feed 300 gold to the enemy which is MORE than a kill. Yeah he is not that good. He WAS good, but now he is not.

What? Syllabear gets levels and gold in offlane better than practically any other hero (obviously somewhat matchup dependant) as well as stunting the progression of the enemy supports.

Its quite rare to feed the bear, since it can be sent back to base or resummoned. When it does happen, its nowhere near as much gold as a kill since there is no AoE team gold like there is from hero kills. Etc.

Syllabear does kinda follow the furion route sometimes though where after screwing with the lane for a bit the enemy supports hit 3 or so and he sometimes has to ditch the lane for jungle or w/e. Its better than starting in the jungle by a wide wide margin.

I mean, admiral bulldog, the current syllabear legend, plays him almost exclusively in the offlane (although occasionally safelane solo). How do you even argue this?
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 16:14:11
October 02 2013 16:13 GMT
#15422
There is really no point in arguing with you. You already showed us that you think that since pros do something than it must be right instead of using your brain.
And btw, you can't resummon/recall if they are attacking the bear and there are heroes who can lock him down for a long time.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 02 2013 16:17 GMT
#15423
Oh rox.kis is running syllabear offlane RIGHT NOW?

Must be terrible wtf do they know. If only they hired BlitzerSC to tell them how to play dota they'd do so much better.
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 16:21:00
October 02 2013 16:19 GMT
#15424
On October 03 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
There is really no point in arguing with you. You already showed us that you think that since pros do something than it must be right instead of using your brain.
And btw, you can't resummon/recall if they are attacking the bear and there are heroes who can lock him down for a long time.


Bear starts with 1400hp (And is at 1800 by 2 points in bear, ideally your level 3), you can't resummon him for 3 seconds after damage, you really think that early on you're going to get locked down for so long they can burst 1400hp and you can't run the bear under tower/away? (especially in a public match?).

telendria
Profile Joined July 2013
Czech Republic32 Posts
October 02 2013 16:38 GMT
#15425
On October 03 2013 01:19 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
There is really no point in arguing with you. You already showed us that you think that since pros do something than it must be right instead of using your brain.
And btw, you can't resummon/recall if they are attacking the bear and there are heroes who can lock him down for a long time.


Bear starts with 1400hp (And is at 1800 by 2 points in bear, ideally your level 3), you can't resummon him for 3 seconds after damage, you really think that early on you're going to get locked down for so long they can burst 1400hp and you can't run the bear under tower/away? (especially in a public match?).



So what? You wont get level 3, if you wont lead the innitial creep pull under your tower, you have to micro the bear like the pros to not loose creeps in LoS and not loose bear either, your average LD in pub match wont be capable of doing that.
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
October 02 2013 16:39 GMT
#15426
On October 02 2013 03:40 Oktyabr wrote:
every time i have to rate my enjoyment of a match right after playing with fucking retards on my team, i feel like my hair's starting to grey.


got a good laugh out of this.

excuse my ignorance but has anyone researched/does anyone know the effect the "enjoyment" ratings you give after a game has on your future matches, if any?
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 16:41:33
October 02 2013 16:40 GMT
#15427
On October 03 2013 01:38 telendria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 01:19 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
There is really no point in arguing with you. You already showed us that you think that since pros do something than it must be right instead of using your brain.
And btw, you can't resummon/recall if they are attacking the bear and there are heroes who can lock him down for a long time.


Bear starts with 1400hp (And is at 1800 by 2 points in bear, ideally your level 3), you can't resummon him for 3 seconds after damage, you really think that early on you're going to get locked down for so long they can burst 1400hp and you can't run the bear under tower/away? (especially in a public match?).



So what? You wont get level 3, if you wont lead the innitial creep pull under your tower, you have to micro the bear like the pros to not loose creeps in LoS and not loose bear either, your average LD in pub match wont be capable of doing that.

so what you're saying is that if you're bad at some of the skills required for a hero you shouldn't play the hero in the most effective way.
most pub trilanes won't be set up to stop the pull in the first place so you don't really need sick micro skills especially since your hero is doing exactly nothing this entire time. you need to be mildly competent--that's it.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
telendria
Profile Joined July 2013
Czech Republic32 Posts
October 02 2013 16:48 GMT
#15428
On October 03 2013 01:40 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 01:38 telendria wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:19 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
There is really no point in arguing with you. You already showed us that you think that since pros do something than it must be right instead of using your brain.
And btw, you can't resummon/recall if they are attacking the bear and there are heroes who can lock him down for a long time.


Bear starts with 1400hp (And is at 1800 by 2 points in bear, ideally your level 3), you can't resummon him for 3 seconds after damage, you really think that early on you're going to get locked down for so long they can burst 1400hp and you can't run the bear under tower/away? (especially in a public match?).



So what? You wont get level 3, if you wont lead the innitial creep pull under your tower, you have to micro the bear like the pros to not loose creeps in LoS and not loose bear either, your average LD in pub match wont be capable of doing that.

so what you're saying is that if you're bad at some of the skills required for a hero you shouldn't play the hero in the most effective way.
most pub trilanes won't be set up to stop the pull in the first place so you don't really need sick micro skills especially since your hero is doing exactly nothing this entire time. you need to be mildly competent--that's it.


so you assume some competency from LD but none from trilane supports, yeah, that makes no sense. if supports are mildly competent, they will be prepared for it and make the bears life hell, because its not that hard to rightclick the bear with one hero and block the creeps with the other. bonus points for rubick TK the bear on cliff/behind the trees somewhere.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 16:52:06
October 02 2013 16:51 GMT
#15429
On October 03 2013 01:48 telendria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 01:40 Nocticate wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:38 telendria wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:19 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
There is really no point in arguing with you. You already showed us that you think that since pros do something than it must be right instead of using your brain.
And btw, you can't resummon/recall if they are attacking the bear and there are heroes who can lock him down for a long time.


Bear starts with 1400hp (And is at 1800 by 2 points in bear, ideally your level 3), you can't resummon him for 3 seconds after damage, you really think that early on you're going to get locked down for so long they can burst 1400hp and you can't run the bear under tower/away? (especially in a public match?).



So what? You wont get level 3, if you wont lead the innitial creep pull under your tower, you have to micro the bear like the pros to not loose creeps in LoS and not loose bear either, your average LD in pub match wont be capable of doing that.

so what you're saying is that if you're bad at some of the skills required for a hero you shouldn't play the hero in the most effective way.
most pub trilanes won't be set up to stop the pull in the first place so you don't really need sick micro skills especially since your hero is doing exactly nothing this entire time. you need to be mildly competent--that's it.


so you assume some competency from LD but none from trilane supports, yeah, that makes no sense. if supports are mildly competent, they will be prepared for it and make the bears life hell, because its not that hard to rightclick the bear with one hero and block the creeps with the other. bonus points for rubick TK the bear on cliff/behind the trees somewhere.

Something that 2 Pro-level supports (including a rubick) failed to do not 30 mins ago in WePlay. Bear has the tools to force through XP and Gold gain 1 vs 3. Period. He is a good offlaner. If you disagree, then you are wilfully ignoring facts.
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hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
October 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#15430
On October 03 2013 01:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 01:48 telendria wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:40 Nocticate wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:38 telendria wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:19 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On October 03 2013 01:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
There is really no point in arguing with you. You already showed us that you think that since pros do something than it must be right instead of using your brain.
And btw, you can't resummon/recall if they are attacking the bear and there are heroes who can lock him down for a long time.


Bear starts with 1400hp (And is at 1800 by 2 points in bear, ideally your level 3), you can't resummon him for 3 seconds after damage, you really think that early on you're going to get locked down for so long they can burst 1400hp and you can't run the bear under tower/away? (especially in a public match?).



So what? You wont get level 3, if you wont lead the innitial creep pull under your tower, you have to micro the bear like the pros to not loose creeps in LoS and not loose bear either, your average LD in pub match wont be capable of doing that.

so what you're saying is that if you're bad at some of the skills required for a hero you shouldn't play the hero in the most effective way.
most pub trilanes won't be set up to stop the pull in the first place so you don't really need sick micro skills especially since your hero is doing exactly nothing this entire time. you need to be mildly competent--that's it.


so you assume some competency from LD but none from trilane supports, yeah, that makes no sense. if supports are mildly competent, they will be prepared for it and make the bears life hell, because its not that hard to rightclick the bear with one hero and block the creeps with the other. bonus points for rubick TK the bear on cliff/behind the trees somewhere.

Something that 2 Pro-level supports (including a rubick) failed to do not 30 mins ago in WePlay. Bear has the tools to force through XP and Gold gain 1 vs 3. Period. He is a good offlaner. If you disagree, then you are wilfully ignoring facts.

a pub ld will totally feed the bear because it start with 1400hp, you know what I mean? (sarcasm)
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
October 02 2013 17:44 GMT
#15431
Level 15 sf on my team.
Took no points in Shadowraze
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 18:02:34
October 02 2013 18:02 GMT
#15432
What's the point of taking it if u never hit em anyway????? Maybe hes contributing moar that way
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 02 2013 18:10 GMT
#15433
one of my longest game (73) mins

it was all pick so the draft wasn't well, i was the only support with 4 carry, the opponents had a better team overall

we took down the middle barrack quickly then it was a constant back and forth, at the end we left their throne at 5% of life, andinstead of pushing together the carries went one by one and got destroyed

they made a counter push and we lost

i was about to uninstall my game
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
October 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#15434
I hate the Dota 2 servers atm. Three games in a row auto-disconnect (the one with the red writing in the top right corner) and the game is not able to reconnect to the servers to rejoin the game, so I have to leave those games and now I am in the low priority matchmaking pool -___- fuck this shit.....
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 19:58:03
October 02 2013 19:56 GMT
#15435
Prophet, brood, phantom same team what the fuck is this.

These kind of comps are retarded and stupid to play against.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
October 02 2013 20:04 GMT
#15436
On October 03 2013 04:56 blobrus wrote:
Prophet, brood, phantom same team what the fuck is this.

These kind of comps are retarded and stupid to play against.


That's an Earthshaker's wet dream
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
October 02 2013 20:28 GMT
#15437
why does no one ever, ever, ever buy detection on pubs
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 02 2013 21:23 GMT
#15438
On October 03 2013 05:28 hooahah wrote:
why does no one ever, ever, ever buy detection on pubs


you can do a quick experiment, buy the dust/sentry and drop them on courier and tell team to take them, >50% chance that they still won't pick it up lol.

Generally speaking if they knew the importance of detection they would have bought them already, oh the horror when I see that everyone in the oppo team has a detection on them after I had a nice winning streak. It is all MM's fault.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 02 2013 21:43 GMT
#15439
On October 03 2013 06:23 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:28 hooahah wrote:
why does no one ever, ever, ever buy detection on pubs


you can do a quick experiment, buy the dust/sentry and drop them on courier and tell team to take them, >50% chance that they still won't pick it up lol.

Generally speaking if they knew the importance of detection they would have bought them already, oh the horror when I see that everyone in the oppo team has a detection on them after I had a nice winning streak. It is all MM's fault.

It's cuz people want the slot for the component for their next item. Because obviously its more important to winning fights than having detection.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 02 2013 21:58 GMT
#15440
On October 03 2013 05:28 hooahah wrote:
why does no one ever, ever, ever buy detection on pubs

I had a game with the exact opposite problem, oddly enough. Had a DK who spent half of his game gold (maybe more) on sentry wards because of a BH. Eventually he got a Gem...then lost it...then went back to buying up sentries en masse. Nothing like him planting four of them in a 2000 range area every time we had an engagement.

Was a good thing our whole team had snowballed, because if we actually needed items from him...
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