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beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
October 01 2013 03:56 GMT
#15381
Never playing on SEA server again; even if it means getting ~200 ping to USW, I'll do it.

Nothing is fucking worse than the people on SEA, holy shit.
aaaaa
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
October 01 2013 04:06 GMT
#15382
On October 01 2013 12:56 beesinyoface wrote:
Never playing on SEA server again; even if it means getting ~200 ping to USW, I'll do it.

Nothing is fucking worse than the people on SEA, holy shit.

as if thats better
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
October 01 2013 04:10 GMT
#15383
On September 30 2013 20:00 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 19:02 icystorage wrote:
idk what's the hate with a mountain prophet. as long as he knows when to gank, i dont mind


Thats the thing: THEY NEVER DO!


Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 19:39 Animzor wrote:
What is the point of cliff jungling anyway?


As far as I'm aware the theory goes is that it allows you to safely get to level 2 with teleport and sprout rather than treants, as well as keeping your health full. This allows you to then TP in and sprout for an early gank on someone and get first blood when everyone is level 2-3. Thus letting you catch up relative to a Furion with treants as well as helping to win a lane for your team.

The downsides to it are that it is a very slow farming method and is quite a risky play depending on camp (if its trolls you can be in a lot of trouble) and you're relying heavily on actually getting that level 2 gank off. If it fails then its a huge setback and you're very suboptimally set up for pulling back into it by farming (because you don't have treants).

The problem in pub games with it is that most Furions do the first part (get TP and go highground to attack creeps) but they don't follow through on the "TP to a lane and gank someone" part. They just use it as a way to be even more afk and "safe" whilst farming creeps. And because its WAY slower than treants they end up miles behind everyone else.


Playing against bad furions is probably my favorite thing to do in Dota, so satisfying. The ones who cliff jungle, never gank, no map awareness, no courier snipes, spam ult to deny farm etc.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
October 01 2013 05:28 GMT
#15384
I am generally not a racist person but why the hell do I get Russians on the Australian servers who do not speak a drop of English, spam the chat with Russian where we speak English, feed, fail to properly play (can't last hit, horrible game sense, afks and screws up the entire team) and pick a fucking carry to screw up the team. This faceless void was a total dumbass who feeds first blood, does nothing remotely good for the team, and fails to acknowledge his mistakes. The game ended up with me as tinker and my friend as axe carrying...

Had a game in captain's draft... I banned the spirit breaker and dark seer. In hindsight, we could have picked up the dark seer since we had first pick. I drafted sven, jakiro, bounty hunter, witch doctor and razor VS tiny, riki, death prophet, gyro and axe. The only problem I think we had was the tiny initiation otherwise, our team fight capability, if we dodge the gyro's ultimate and dodge tiny's stun, was in our favor with my ice path with sven's follow up stun then witch doctor's. We also had a harder carry in Sven. This Russian wants Sven - fine he speaks English, that's a good start. The idiot fails to last hit properly in lane, starts with a quelling blade which is dumb since our lane was going to have a gyrocopter for sure, afks at the 10 minute mark, gets an abandon, fails to properly do anything for the team and the rest of my team are a bunch of pussies who play passive and stay really far behind when we're pushing towers as a 4 man unit when there's only 3 in the area. My friend is a total retard on bounty hunter who thinks he can harass 2v1 an axe and riki, gets battle hunger and then retreats back to base when witch doctor and I could have set up a kill on riki and axe... then we die. This witch doctor is a greedy retard who doesn't know when to retreat hence gets picked off 1v4 and tells me "We need wards," when he has them in the inventory and I just purchased more. The only noteworthy player was the Razor but his goddamn play was too passive... I hate supporting retarded carries... And I also ask myself why do I play with this friend of mine who has shit decision making skills...
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 05:32:54
October 01 2013 05:28 GMT
#15385
I just lost to a drow, sniper, lifestealer, spiritbreaker team. So depressing.

It feels like every time my own team has an awesome pregame and picks sensible lanes and has good communication, they all turn out to suck balls at actually playing dota.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
October 01 2013 06:43 GMT
#15386
On October 01 2013 14:28 Belisarius wrote:
I just lost to a drow, sniper, lifestealer, spiritbreaker team. So depressing.

It feels like every time my own team has an awesome pregame and picks sensible lanes and has good communication, they all turn out to suck balls at actually playing dota.


well if the 5th was a support or someone who at least bought a courier then that team is actually laneable (naix jungle->sb infest bomb)) so yeah it would come down to getting outplayed.
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
October 01 2013 10:44 GMT
#15387
Why is always the capable invoker on the OTHER team? WHY VOLVO?
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
October 01 2013 11:50 GMT
#15388
people who play mid and complain about everyone else getting less kills... that is the point of mid, to get an exp advantage and get kills...
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
October 01 2013 12:01 GMT
#15389
Had 2 Americans on South African server yesterday. Are all Americans so trigger happy? Charge in time after time with sb into 5 heroes and just die from level 1. Then his buddy the pa hours in after he dies and tries to man mode them. The sniper just sits back with his mkb desolator and racks up kills. Then freaks out about bat not trusting them with the aegis. During this feed fest our south American rubick afk farms the whole game, not buying a single support item because he is rushing a 35 minute bloodstone to have mana to support the spells he isn't stealing.
6 poll is a good skill toi have
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
October 01 2013 12:19 GMT
#15390
PA goes helm of dominator, then desolator... she is from Russia, enough said...
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 12:37:57
October 01 2013 12:32 GMT
#15391
Got matched up with a guy who probably has less than 20 wins. Game starts, he picks TA and says "first time playing her lol". Dies 4 times in 4 minutes and got the enemy ss superfat. "Don't fight him when he's 4 levels above you man" "didn't notice it LOL". Not sure if to rage or not, this shit happens, I just didn't want to lose to a PL/SB team

game was fun, but fun in the sense of Horde Mode. We managed to bring the game back from 21-2 15 minutes in to 55-35 50 minutes in so that's something.

edit: nvm just checked dotabuff this guy had two points in refractions up until level 13, this guy was a goddamn retard
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
October 01 2013 12:34 GMT
#15392
On October 01 2013 21:19 1nobody wrote:
PA goes helm of dominator, then desolator... she is from Russia, enough said...

Pff are you kidding? I had a way better one, phase, basher, dominator and then shit begins : crystalis, dagger, daedalus. It also included a BF BH who complained we did not gang a centaur WD lane when we had PA and SF freefarming. In this game also a 0 0 0 jungle doom 15 minutes into the game. I thought we would win anyway because I thought BH and PA will grab a bkb because the ennemy team consisted of invoker, centaur, WD, magnus and huskar (roaming first 10 mins achieving nothing and ends carrying for the enemy team when he had one gauntlet and brown boots 8 mins into the game).
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 12:44:29
October 01 2013 12:43 GMT
#15393
On October 01 2013 21:34 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 21:19 1nobody wrote:
PA goes helm of dominator, then desolator... she is from Russia, enough said...

Pff are you kidding? I had a way better one, phase, basher, dominator and then shit begins : crystalis, dagger, daedalus. It also included a BF BH who complained we did not gang a centaur WD lane when we had PA and SF freefarming. In this game also a 0 0 0 jungle doom 15 minutes into the game. I thought we would win anyway because I thought BH and PA will grab a bkb because the ennemy team consisted of invoker, centaur, WD, magnus and huskar (roaming first 10 mins achieving nothing and ends carrying for the enemy team when he had one gauntlet and brown boots 8 mins into the game).

Well, its enough, cause it was our only carry and we told him, that it doesnt stack and still we heard "i need dmg, i need -armor" Ofc she went 21 minute BF, after deso basher into abyssal and then tried to make AC, no satanic, since you dont need HP, when youre from Russia and only carry.
Otherwise we all communicated, but random god had to give the carry to russian, what can you do...
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 14:03:10
October 01 2013 14:02 GMT
#15394
TA loses mid vs WR, we lost the game and she wouldnt accept that she was all her fault.
Some people just deserve to be flamed.
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 14:08:19
October 01 2013 14:07 GMT
#15395
>pick omniknight vs 3 physical dmg carry team for some heals on our magnus/rikimaru while they go in for their own dmg. I dont always pick omniknight, but when I do, its because of this.
>some spanish gets dropped in pregame lobby, i'm already feeling like this game is going to go full Brazilian, preparing mentally to play with no teamwork or coordination at all.
>other support is crystal maiden or a rubick, i forget.
>other support doesn't buy wards or courier, or courier upgrade
>being the hero dota all-pick pubs need but do not deserve, I pony up the gold for all of these luxuries
>we lose a close game, our ancient dies only a few hundred HP left on theirs
>i am reported for intentional ability abuse, because at the end of this close game i am the lowest level and have the lowest gear, maybe lvl 18 compared to 20ish on average. I only know this because they told me in post game chat that they reported, and i should go practice with bots.
>i guess i had been reported by others, as i am now in low priority..

I hvae had this game since maybe a week after beta launch, i dont play as much as a lot of people but this game going free to play is just.... umm...

There has to be some way to make it so new players are not lumped into games, i'm pretty sure i have read it is based on K/D which is absolutely silly. If it is, what this does is: 1. put carries on teams with carries, support players have lower inherent MMR. No one supports already, it is so annoying and ruining my fun of this game when i';m the only one willing to put my ego aside and play for the win, not for the 1337 killz. The worst part of this is normally they are so bad they have to play a carry just to break even in KD. 2. makes it so baddie players who pick sniper/drow ranger every single match who have a good game (going 15 kills 5 deaths is totally possible on your first game of dota with these character vs other braindead players) get launched into non-retard MMRs and fuck up games because they pick carries every time, have no game sense of when to fight, etc. 3. Good players avoiding battles they're not sure if they can win or not, because they're not sure if their teamates are competent. If i have to question which teamates i'm with before i consider pushing a tower hard or starting a teamfight, just because my teamates are so wildly distributed in skill, there is a problem with the MMR.

Anyone who can shed some light onhow the matching is working i will appreciate a lot. It's just so frustrating right now and i'm wondering if i keep playing games it will become better. I have almost 75% win rate, but i feel like the pool of players is so bad no matter what. It seems like only 1 out of 10 games there is a good team where everyone actually has played more than a week of dota 2..
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 01 2013 14:21 GMT
#15396
MMR is simple; you win-> you got points vice versa. Also if the game supposed to be harder for you(average MMR of the game is higher than yours) you win more or lose less points. System measures your ability to win in a particular distribution and questionably measures your skill level. Since it is a 10 players game, even though you are the best player of that match, there is a strong possibility for you to lose the match.
In theory, playing more games should place you where you belong but individually it is very likely to have absolutely retarded players due to stacking/huge search range/players off-hero/mood etc.. in one match.

My complain about the system is, MMR seems like changes very rapidly after consecutive wins and merely matches you with better opponents(rather with bad teammates) from my experience. It can be subjective thou but clearly visible how consecutive matches are so different skill-wise.

Also you can smurf and climb more than your value by winning your initial matches hard enough.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 15:51:46
October 01 2013 14:27 GMT
#15397
1 win in the last 14 games -.-

edit: 15, uninstalled the game after this, I need a break ^^
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 01 2013 15:00 GMT
#15398
I fucking hate lifestealer. It requires 0 skill, 0 farm and it scales too well even if he has zero fucking items. Literally the cancer of this game.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 01 2013 18:40 GMT
#15399
every time i have to rate my enjoyment of a match right after playing with fucking retards on my team, i feel like my hair's starting to grey.
Sly Faux
Profile Joined April 2013
57 Posts
October 01 2013 22:23 GMT
#15400
On US East, I get a 4 stack who spoke ONLY Spanish... Randomed Alchemist, one of them picks VS and says in Spanish, "I will support" ther est pick DK, CM, and AM... okay... Lane starts and VS goes mid... umm? says again I'm supporting but going mid, I guess I'll go top... AM says no I am solo top... fine tri-lane bottom? Nope... I get forced to jungle. Made NO sense to me, but what really gets me is I can understand Spanish, but can't speak it those conjugations take to long for me, so I am speaking to them in English and they and they are speaking back to me in Spanish... IF YOU KNOW ENGLISH FUCKING SPEAK IT!!! But I guess they have the same problem I do, they know it but takes too long to type it? I dunno more confused then angry.
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