Dota 2 QQ thread - Page 762

On September 26 2013 16:30 trinxified wrote:


Lol so funny. He even levelled up stats, so really had no intention of getting Raze.

Weird I've actually played against someone who did that build too. Won't be surprised that it's the same player.

On September 26 2013 16:26 blobrus wrote:
Chinese on US server. Like it's usually okay, but this game there was a feeding ursa that didn't communicate even with pings and he eventually abandoned. Region lock pls volvo

On September 25 2013 04:53 Ryrmidon wrote:


From my experience it's actually a lot more common to find carries who can't distinguish when to fight or farm, or recognize situations where the team needs them to contribute early. They blind farm big items while oblivious to the fact that it's possible to fight on a carry without having a lot of items. Then when the team gets destroyed (while they farm ofc) and the other carry snowballs off all the kills, they blame their team for fighting 4v5 and feeding, not recognizing that the disadvantage is in large part due to the fact that they went for a greedy as hell farming build.

I always cringe when our lanes are pressured, our towers being pushed and the enemy constantly 5 manning... then I click my carry's inventory and see he's rushing radiance on Spectre, brown boots ---> battlefury on AM, Helm first on Luna, or max greevil's greed on Alchemist.

I've played with so many people who fail to recognize that there are situations as a carry where you have to make concessions for your team. Yes you can "just stop 4v5", but against an aggressive enough team that might leave you with no towers, no map control, no ability to contest rosh and much less farming space.

On September 26 2013 17:13 Kreb wrote:

This is so true. Im not sure if people dont get the idea of "greedy play" as opposed to farming early midgame fighting items (drums, phase, armlets, etc) or if its just that they think that you're always supposed to play like that no matter what on certain heroes. But I've seen thing like thathappen sooooo many times. Some examples off the top of my head:
- Carry getting midas before boots in tri vs trilane.
- Us having AM + jungling druid. That could of course work if AM gets fat. Druid proceeds to go double midas, effectively making us 3v5 until like 25-30min.
- Plenty of jungler+carry or mid+carry getting midas both of them, sometimes even from disadvantageous laning stages.
- Carries never helping defending towers. Sure farming might seem like a good idea, but people just seem to not realize whats gonna happen with their farm when mid+safelane t1's are gone and t2's being pressured and our jungle is now their jungle. Where are they gonna farm then?

And thats all in very high mmr.

While i have no stats to back up this claim, Im pretty sure AM is one of the lowest win % heroes in my games. Every time I get one in my team towers seem to go down left and right while AM with his late BF desperately works towards his manta without fighting once. And when he's forced to fight for our t3's its already lost. Same story when I face AM, just usually roll over them midgame. AM players around my mmr simply. Does. Not. Fight. Sometimes I wonder why people even want to play that hero since most of the times it feels like winning games are 99% due to the remaining 4 pretty much 4v5'ing the other team. Whats the fun in coming in at the 30min mark when your team already won the game for you and snatch a few kills by diving their base and fountain?

Shoutout to the AM who was 0-0-1 at 30min (yes, I checked) and when I kind of sarcastically suggested "maybe we should just go push base and win" (we had taken all outer towers and had a huge snowballing sb killing anything he wanted) he replied: "just wait until I finish my butterfly". I dont really get how he gets satisfaction by being carried like that. Is it the GPM at the scoreboard people are looking for?