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Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
September 18 2013 15:09 GMT
#15021
did they change the matchmaking system or something this week? every game is a one-sided stomp, whether I'm on the winning or losing team... meh
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 18 2013 15:21 GMT
#15022
you're probably in the middle zone. get matched in normal = you win stomp. get matched in high = you lose stomp. hehe just a random theory.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 18 2013 15:24 GMT
#15023
On September 19 2013 00:21 icystorage wrote:
you're probably in the middle zone. get matched in normal = you win stomp. get matched in high = you lose stomp. hehe just a random theory.


That's not how matching in normal/high works.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
September 18 2013 17:09 GMT
#15024
So you guys were whining about zeus going for agha refresher instead of something useful like blink forcestaff sheep ? Look what I've got !
+ Show Spoiler +
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He lastpicked Zeus after we already had a random storm, proceed to call mid while whining like a little bitch, always waited for last second to use his ultimate so he could get as many kills as possible ( fuk the passive, right ? ) and then he flamed the team. Notice how smart it was to build agha refresher vs Naix.

iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
September 18 2013 18:18 GMT
#15025
On September 18 2013 21:27 Coil1 wrote:
Just did a tryout for a "going-professional" team where

1.The other support got a sobi mask as a starting item both games. First to "rush a basi" and second to "rush a medallion" 2nd time it caused him to go into a trilane v trilane with 0 regen.

2.Both games the mid lost. First was him puck v kunkka(I think kunkka is favored here), the second was sf vs him bat. How the fuck do you lose mid sf as bat? We even ganked him successfully twice so he should have no souls.

3. Mid bought a stout shield because "sf hits hard" Remember he's bat for this game.

4. Both games offlane fed first blood. In the 2nd game's case. He fed first, second and 3rd blood in 8 minutes.

5. I had to tell the other support player how to play visage. He never had his familiars in fights and went the wrong skill build.

6. Support makes a pipe for some godawful reason. We have a ds, you need a ghost scepter holy shit.

7. Constantly overextends for kills, Frequently I was the only one alive at the end of a 2 for 4 trade because I was the only one with the awareness to gtfo.

8. They thought aquila and basi aura stacked even if when I told them it doesn't.

These people actually thought they could go fucking pro. Holy shit what a waste of time.


Kaipi? jk
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
September 18 2013 18:49 GMT
#15026
ah, I remembered a few months ago I decided to do all random solo. I got a team of furion, OD, skeleton king, nightstalker, and les. doesn't seem too bad. then shit hitted the fan. skeleton king died to first blood and whined to nightstalker to tell him to go to mid and have les support him. later on, he kept on whining and bitching saying how he was so much superior than everybody else and we had no brains what so ever. I was 2-6 as furion but I tried to do my job which is split push.

at the end of the match, we lost thanks to skeleton king feeding meepo. skeleton king proceeded to call us noobs and reported us all for "playing bad" .

and after that match, I have learned to never solo in all random ever again
Lavitage2
Profile Joined June 2012
198 Posts
September 18 2013 18:56 GMT
#15027
On September 18 2013 23:37 DR.Ham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 23:13 iokke wrote:
On September 18 2013 15:00 Lavitage2 wrote:
On September 17 2013 06:55 iokke wrote:
I copied this fun WL build from someone where you go mid, get W and stats till level 12, and rush refresher, which I usually get around 18 mins but can be had quite a bit earlier. I know it might not be a pro build but it's fun for me and works fine in pubs. You also often win mid simply cause they underestimate u (stats). However, after initial 1-2 games valve refuses to let me win with it.

Every time I pick WL and get away with going for that build, I get a team that insists on feeding. I often win mid, get my refresher up but we're losing all other lanes hard, and it's frustrating cause I know how strong it is (lots of games I almost turn it around with early 2x ulti and later 4x golems even being far behind, but team refuses to win anyway). Some games I did fuck up a bit as well but even if I played perfect it wouldnt make a difference.. Whyyy do you punish me every time I WL now valve. argh.
At least every time I lose with it I learn how to optimize it a bit better for my playstyle


Warlock is my second most played hero and here is my experience.

If the game's close enough for your build to matter, the enemy team will be trying hard - and thus they will be conscious of the threat of golems and they will make sure not to group up too much.

If the game is a blowout in either team's favor, the other team will be on tilt and do stupid shit like let themselves get 5 man rocked every fight.

I never go for ult based warlock builds. They give you a satisfying punch against a team that's toying with you, which you've noticed, but that will rarely be enough to actually turn a horrible game in your favor, which you've also noticed.


nonononono I don't wanna hear it. Ok fine damnit, you are prolly right although it is hard to avoid his ulti and teamfight (you can wait till they are forced to join in). Plus I don't think I could win any of those games with any other hero,l but I have to admit I coulda had a bigger impact early as a regular mid hero. Also didn't know fatal bonds stack (means refersher is pro! jk)

also what the guy below me said



It actually blows my mind how people still don't know how to counter a farming Warlock in a pub. My friend (basically) only plays Warlock, in Very High and has about a 75% winrate with him. Yet, he didn't know that a diffusal blade will kill the Golem, he has literally never had someone build and use a diffusal blade against him in 100+ Very High Warlock games.



I see diffusal blades built to instakill my golem in around 20% of my warlock games (not counting ones where diffusal is core on the other team's carry anyway), and I usually play babysitter WL
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
September 18 2013 19:23 GMT
#15028
well it is pricy to build 1 just for the golems, and if WL gets agh/refresher, you only get 1 out of up to 4
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 19:25:05
September 18 2013 19:23 GMT
#15029
bad story: got 9 minutes bots with tinker, we were leading 20-6, had all their outer towers. The only farm that they had was on Sven, with a shadow blade crystalis MoM. Basically a huge hail marry pass.

No one got any detection. Ever. And we always stayed bunched up, as if waiting for a 5man thor's hammer. After the game is 22-20, I asked bloodseeker to get a gem. He gets it, dives, dies.

We lost a fucking 20-6 game. I'm so fucking mad. I split pushed as best as I could but my team kept trying to fight the sven without me (you'd think after dying a few times they'd learn to NOT FUCKING FIGHT HIM) but when my team gave up I stopped split pushing.



the good story: played allpick, a guy randoms Zeus. After 10 minutes I see that he has Mana Boots and the orb for Aghs. I asked him politely not to rush aghs, he asked what he should get instead, told him Blink, and he

wait for it

holy fucking shit

he actually listened and bought a blink dagger

I tried to commend him at the end (we won!) but dota 2 network crashed lol
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 18 2013 19:34 GMT
#15030
On September 19 2013 04:23 iokke wrote:
well it is pricy to build 1 just for the golems, and if WL gets agh/refresher, you only get 1 out of up to 4

You are saying its "pricy" for a carry to farm 3300 whereas WL (a support) will get Agh/Refresher (almost 10K worth).
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 18 2013 19:37 GMT
#15031
I've seen an invoker (think it was mufc.winter) get a Diffusal once purely to dispel Omninight's Repel. And it worked out for him.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 18 2013 19:58 GMT
#15032
Fucking bullshit huskar on my team, it's not exactly his fault because he admitted after 10 mins that it was his first game but he was still terrible.
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deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
September 18 2013 20:04 GMT
#15033
63min games, what do i get? oooh common cancer lancer belt thank you valve.....
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 18 2013 20:07 GMT
#15034
On September 19 2013 05:04 deichkind wrote:
63min games, what do i get? oooh common cancer lancer belt thank you valve.....

You can't be serious, you are COMPLAINING that you found a common? o.o
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 18 2013 20:09 GMT
#15035
It's hard do describe my QQ this game.

I solo offlane WR vs Solo Spectre. I draw first blood, then second blood, then their Undying rotates top and I kill Spectre AGAIN under his nose. I'm buying wards and upgrade the crow and brutally abusing WR's "is a ranged hero". I sit on Spectre so hard it takes her all game to recover, and even then she's the worst farm on her team.

I'm stacked with 3 of my friends. Death Prophet is being played by my long-time ally, Cruise-Out-Of-Control. Cruise is better than I am, so he goes mid and our other two friends go bottom. Despite a strong advantage early, Cruise draws mid against Rubick.

My other two friends are Wisp and Drow, laning bottom against Abaddon/Undying. undying teleports away pretty early on due to Spectre losing lane badly. So this is Wisp/Drow against solo Abaddon. They both feed, badly. Wisp has no relocates all game. 25 minutes in, drow has a broadsword and a morbid mask. Our pub doom rarely leaves the jungle and at least twice lets his ult get stolen by rubick. DP and I start ganking hard and push down all their outer towers with our ults and nukes. I blanket the map in wards and try to countergank as much as possible. I offer to build the mek since our wisp can't build it, but he says he really should, which is true. I make a sheep before he finished mek ._.

Ultimately, their team carries a bit harder than ours, but really, we never had a chance because of how badly we got outganked in the midgame. Our 2-shadow-blade team was hilarious, almost as hilarious as blink Drow. I know in part it's on me as the support player and the solo offlane to be all up in the enemy's business and to gank... that I should be able to convert a won lane top into a won lane in every lane by being all over the place... but man. My back is big, but it's not that big. I can't carry everything.

I joke with my friends that we should always stack as 4 so that when we lose we can blame the pub. But our pub, for all his flaws, didn't lose this game. My 2 friends did. The drow and the wisp.

all I can do after a game like that is listen to music



and hope for better days


On September 19 2013 04:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 04:23 iokke wrote:
well it is pricy to build 1 just for the golems, and if WL gets agh/refresher, you only get 1 out of up to 4

You are saying its "pricy" for a carry to farm 3300 whereas WL (a support) will get Agh/Refresher (almost 10K worth).


also it's not like diffusal doesn't do other things. cool things.

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Tannex
Profile Joined July 2011
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 20:33:08
September 18 2013 20:30 GMT
#15036
I just had a Trilane consisting of an Alch, Lich, and a Slark(A SLARK SUPPORT IS THAT AN ACTUAL THING!) and BOTH OF THEM I repeat BOTH OF THEM buy a boot, and the SLARK buys the COURIER and BOTH OF THEM RUSH FOR TRANQUAL BOOTS! And to top all of that off, they barely supported my Alch and CONSTANTLY LEFT ME OUT TO DIE! Granted I overextended once by accident, and I need to work on my last hitting by quite a bit (it didn't really help that they auto attacked just about every single creep causing me to miscalculate attacks and pushing the lane super far into the enemy tower), While I'm not a good player by any stretch of the imagination, THEY WERE FUCKING USELESS!

I need people to play with, pubs tend are the worst... T_T
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
September 18 2013 20:34 GMT
#15037
On September 19 2013 00:06 icystorage wrote:
i used to counter warlock with shadow demon. it was so satisfying.


Sadly that doesn't work any more.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 20:40:07
September 18 2013 20:39 GMT
#15038
Meepo leaves all his clones at base while just used them just to poof in combat. Guess 2. item? Aghanims...
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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
September 18 2013 21:07 GMT
#15039
best way to lane nyx,ld,razor,visage,pudge?? I knew game was lost when ld said he's not gonna get fast radi if he doesn't jungle
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 21:34:28
September 18 2013 21:34 GMT
#15040
On September 19 2013 06:07 zezamer wrote:
best way to lane nyx,ld,razor,visage,pudge?? I knew game was lost when ld said he's not gonna get fast radi if he doesn't jungle


Trilane it with LD offlane ftw. Sucks when at the start you already kjnow the game is lost though
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
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