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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 06 2013 04:11 GMT
#14601
okay so today is September 6th, next year at Sept 6th 2014 will be the day i am allowed to play dota 2 again.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
September 06 2013 04:40 GMT
#14602
On September 06 2013 13:11 Kuroeeah wrote:
okay so today is September 6th, next year at Sept 6th 2014 will be the day i am allowed to play dota 2 again.


Quoted, we will watch you, give us your steam id so we can track u
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
1rgc3
Profile Joined August 2013
10 Posts
September 06 2013 06:21 GMT
#14603
Dota 2 is a pretty humorous game. To me personally, I think the funniest part is the box where you choose your language preferences. As if you aren't going to get someone flaming at you in a foreign language 75% of your games no matter what you do.
Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
September 06 2013 06:28 GMT
#14604
http://dotabuff.com/matches/299478429 this game. I'm BH. NP sprouted me more than once when I was chasing someone down, and when I asked wtf he was doing he just replied with "" or ":D"... Low priority wooh.
Gathris
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada102 Posts
September 06 2013 07:04 GMT
#14605
On September 06 2013 07:20 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 06:48 SpiZe wrote:
I really don't understand the logic behind immediately unpausing in a Dota game. I mean I can sort of get the logic when it's in a game like Starcraft where at least you get points so you can tell yourself "I'm an ass but at least I'm higher on the ladder and thus, a better player right ?"..... but in dota 2 ? WTF are you doing it for ? You queued to play a game and a game is 5v5. You get absolutely nothing by playing a 5v4, it's pointless.

Recently there are also these people that unpauses even if the reason is rock solid on the basis that "he didn't dc". I literally had someone in one of my games, repeatedly unpaused and said the guy wasn't dc'ed. I told one of my mates to DC so we get 30 extra seconds. He unpauses, then pauses again and says, and I shit you not "sorry didn't see SF was dc". I mean are you fucking serious ?

This debate has been done over and over again, but maybe you could consider the fact that people take time to play dota2, not actually watch a paused screen for 10 min. The most annoying thing is that you can't even do anything during this time as the game could start without you.
As long as their is a mnimum of communication i'll wait up to 5min, but after that I feel that 5 min of pause + 5 min to get the abandon is more than enough .


Ten minutes is ridiculous for sure, but it's impossible to get a pause for 20 seconds to fix a bug if you aren't playing with a stack that will repeatedly pause for you when someone else unpauses it. It's just absurd. When I played Starcraft where the only person is your enemy I never once had someone unpause for me and that's freakin' ranked. I love DotA but the community makes me so sad.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
September 06 2013 07:16 GMT
#14606
On September 06 2013 11:59 Kyrillion wrote:
Oh God I have to write this now or I'll lose my sanity forever. 94 minutes of pure mediocrity which I could never have conceived.

Solo queue AP in High/VH. We have Morph, Io, Tinker, Bane, Rylai (I). Morph, Io and Bane decide to run an offensive trilane I don't see the point of, leaving me alone in safelane vs Invoker + clockwerk. I do my best while also supporting and manage to get a score of 3/3. Then laning phase ends and thanks to my level advantage and warding I manage to win us a lot of fights and reap plenty of kills, getting meka and blink dagger. This is when horror strikes, and I discover my teammates are to put it bluntly the worst possible dota players in the world. I even think I'm going to check my room for cameras because this has to be staged somehow. Let me introduce the dream team that could crush TI4 if they simply stuck to playing together.

Morphling : even though he's our only carry, goes for linken first, which he completes 40 minutes in, despite having a lot of room to farm. 60 minutes in he's sitting on linken + ghost scepter. Likes to 1vx the enemy team and feed, also tried to kill them at their fountain twice in the game by himself, of course to no avail. The first time their base was intact, the second time their midracks were down and he should have been focusing on destroying buildings further.
Bane : not only playing his first ever hour of dota seemingly, but also unable to listen to any advice. Has no idea how to play his hero, and does not even realise he's a support. Goes for brown boots+broadword. Then sells the broadsword. Then I don't remember. Then sells that and buys two basilius (I'm fairly sure they don't stack, correct me if I'm wrong). Then sells them and gets reasonable items. Awful positioning, most of the time was in front when we engaged a teamfight, sometimes wandering alone on the map. Was usually out of mana in every fight, when he had mana he didn't use his spells and when he did use his ultimate it was on manta illusions. Ends up 2/27/8 (notice the assists : I ended 28/17/40)
Tinker : goes for arcane+dagon. I said arcane ? I meant arcane. Actually decent compared to the rest if we overlook that issue, we got lots of kills together in midgame and he got beyond twice. Still, never made BOTs even in lategame when splitpushing would have been paramount and defence was highly needed.
Io : not one single Relocate gank in the game I believe. He did relocate, but never with tether. Stopped using relocate entirely after midgame even though he could have splitpushed with morph, except sometimes to defend (again, no tether). Went for mekansm first even though I already have one and announced it in the chat.

I had to do all the supporting except the courier upgrade. Apparently wards are dirty and carrying them is impure, even if I bought some in the courier and asked someone to place them because my inventory was full and theirs not, they did not react. What else could I say ? Ah yes, when I dismantled my tranquils tinker picked up the regen ring and kept it almost until the end of the game, because filling one's inventory slots with whatever item is not even yours is a holy duty. Also once I put my boots on the courier to get wards instead, the courier came back to the base empty. I guess PTs just disappear like that.

I won't even bore you recanting the rest. We were ahead most of the game but my team insisted on pushing uphill even though it clearly would cut no ice and then stood still before their base trying for , and without even taking all outer towers. I tried to explain to Morph that he should farm as much as possible lest we lose inevitably, but he opted for vainly trying to push and to kill heroes rather. They kept engaging 4v5 or 3v5 when I had to TP back because humongous creepwaves were threatening our towers. I somewhat managed to hold the team together for a long time, being the game lead in kills and deaths and assists, getting scythe, aghanim and bkb but Rylai can only do so much and even if Morph started to somewhat take over, we ended up overwhelmed by their superior lategame potential (gyro, invoker, OD, SB, clock).

Part of me wants to cool my head playing with bots instead but then I'm afraid I could discover they're already smarter than humans.

On the bright side of things, there was hardly any flaming and I discovered that it's possible in dota to carry/support/gank/counter splitpushing/lead your team through the chat all at the same time. Also, I'm starting to find Rylai is the best designed hero in the game, she's so much fun.



On a side note : does anyone experience much higher lag than usual when playing QoP ? I'm starting to think there's a bug somewhere, but maybe it's just the hero being more lag-sensitive. ( I also tend to find my teammates always suck when playing her and that's clearly not the game at fault).

That's a good one.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
September 06 2013 08:12 GMT
#14607
[image loading]

picture says more than 1k words
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
September 06 2013 08:13 GMT
#14608
On September 06 2013 07:28 LSF wrote:
CM game, other teams captain goes AFK before the draft starts.
I mean WHY THE FUCK do people do this?

He clicked "accept" some 20 seconds earlier, how the fuck can be AFK then.

I've always wondered... What happens if the captain is afk during pick? I assume that it just randoms.

Obligatory QQ: had a Russian trilane of jakiro, ogre and spectre feed 11 kills to a solo offlane razor. Luckily spectre abandoned after his 8th death at ~12 minutes or so.
What a player
Morufi1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany49 Posts
September 06 2013 08:45 GMT
#14609
On September 06 2013 17:13 MentalGNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 07:28 LSF wrote:
CM game, other teams captain goes AFK before the draft starts.
I mean WHY THE FUCK do people do this?

He clicked "accept" some 20 seconds earlier, how the fuck can be AFK then.

I've always wondered... What happens if the captain is afk during pick? I assume that it just randoms.



No bans, random picks, as far as i know.
Daaktard
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden380 Posts
September 06 2013 09:11 GMT
#14610
uuuh.. I just had the stupidest teammates i've had for a long time.

CM (Me), Jugg, Warlock, Pudge, Void vs SF, Rubick, PL, NP, BH

Jugg and Warlock go offlane against PL and Rubick and lose horribly. Jug dies 4 times before he says "I go jungle". Meanwhile pudge dies under his own tower against SF. I zone out BH as CM and head to mid where we kill SF and I go top again to kill BH finally. I mean, sure we lost offlane but void has complete freefarm, which he puts into a naked buterfly...

Now I get the feeling that this void isnt too good either. Buuut midgame comes and Pudge steps up his game considerably, kills fly back and forth but jugg is still useless. 30-40 min in their carries aren't the problem, we kill PL repeatedly and I'm higher level than the midas prophet. The Rubick proves to be the most annoying player but the thing that takes the cake is Warlock, Jugg and Void. Warlock doesnt join our pushes and dies before he can ult when they push. Jugger ults PL with illusions around him. Void has the most retarded itembuild; Bfly, HoD and mjollnir. He dies instantly after chrono basically.

Me and Pudge really do try our best(My ult was wrecking them), but my other "teammates" can't manage to kill anything if we are not helping them. So in the end, we lose. Frustrating really, if they had been half decent we might have won.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
September 06 2013 09:37 GMT
#14611
Russian connects
immediately picks ES then says gonna abuse a little

then repicks

the discs
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
September 06 2013 11:01 GMT
#14612
our medusa feeds three divine rapiers to the enemy spectre. we were 2 rax up and still win , but that hassle wasent good for my heart
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
September 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#14613
worse than feeders, worse than leavers, worse than ragers are the fuckers that refuse to end shit.......2 rax down 1 t4 tower left, 3 people dead....lets rosh.....fuckers deserves a kick in the balls....
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
September 06 2013 11:17 GMT
#14614
Wow so ok, I just discovered dota edge, and looking back at my previous losses, my teams picks mysteriously all mostly ended up in the 'avoid picking' category... are people really actively using this site in pubs?
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
September 06 2013 11:31 GMT
#14615
On September 06 2013 05:04 Ryrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 03:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2013 02:57 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:45 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:09 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 05 2013 19:57 -Celestial- wrote:
On September 05 2013 02:33 Gathris wrote:
Also how come no matter what, someone will unpause if you pause? My UI bugs out so I pause and say I'll be back in a minute, instantly gets unpaused by the BH on my team and I die...


I can never believe it when your own team unpauses. I had a brief minor emergency pop up during a game. Asked for a pause and hit the button. Went away. Two or three minutes tops and dealt with it. Came back...one of my own team had hit unpause and we'd lost a fight in the meantime.

Seriously...I can understand it if people pause and just say nothing, you have no idea whats going on. And I can even understand the other team wanting to be a bit dickish and play the "pause/unpause" fighting game with your team.

But why the hell would you want to screw over your OWN TEAM by unpausing when they're not there unless its been like...5-10 minutes with no word?

Because fuck pauses. Every. Single. Game. It feels like someone needs to pause, most of the time for something stupid (teammate didnt pick a hero, pause plz). I unpause no matter what team im on . Yea its sorta douchy to people who have a legitimate unforseen reason but whatever. I'm impatient and 99% of the time its shit that should have taken care of before queuing up.

Yeah, being an grown ass adult and having a girlfriend who lives with me, you are pretty much the Duke of DoucheLand. If she needs to ask me a question or is leaving, I will pause the game for 30 seconds to a minute to say goodbye or answer the question. And sometimes shit happens. Other people have lives, wives, children and all sorts of other things. A bit of a douche and if you were on my team and did that, I might forget to buy wards a couple times in response. But, lucky for me, I only play in 5 man stacks.


Yes because unpausing means I dont have a girlfriend and Im not an adult. Are you one of those people who thinks unpausing is reportable under ability abuse?

Its not anyone's obligation to wait for ur stuff. I dont expect 9 other people to wait because my gf calls me. Its a courtesy, not something ur entitled to

Exactly, its a courtesy that we give fellow players out of respect and understanding that unexpected things come up and we want everyone to have a good game. Its a nice thing to do. And I assume because you are unwilling to do it for me that you do not respect me and feel no need to be nice. So in return, I will treat you in kind.

You are freely entitled to be a dick and I will never report you for it. However, I will treat you like the dick that you are. Life is hard like that.


and I consider it courtesy for other people not to waste my time with their personal things. I don't unpause for everything. If someone says "sec, shop's bugged I need to restart" then obviously I'll wait, but "sec, my gf wants a goodbye kiss" or "sec, pizza guy's here" isn't a good enough reason for me.

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 04:33 Belisarius wrote:
I would probably report someone who repeatedly unpaused on one of their teammates. That's obnoxious enough behaviour that it qualifies as ruining a game, which, to me, is the simplest litmus test for deserving a report.

I really don't understand impatient people who play dota. Dota is, by definition, a game requiring patience. For goodness' sakes, if you die at a high level you can end up spending whole minutes on the sideline. If you can't wait a couple of extra minutes at the start, you might want to reconsider your preferred genre.


I play dota because it's fun. In game moments requiring patience and passivity are part of the game. Waiting for people's random shit isn't fun, and that sort of patience isn't part of the game.



The world doesn't stop for Dota. Random shit happens.

In a game where you play with 9 people, being considerate is a virtue.

If you have no patience, play 1v1 starcraft. That way you can leave without consequence.

If you can't play starcraft, play Dota vs bots.

Yes there are limits to pausing, but just unpausing for the sake of being an impatient douche you really shouldn't be playing with the other kids
6 poll is a good skill toi have
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
September 06 2013 11:41 GMT
#14616
this game is unplayable....3rd game 3rd leaver...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
September 06 2013 11:52 GMT
#14617
On September 06 2013 20:31 eu.exodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:04 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 06 2013 03:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2013 02:57 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:45 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:09 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 05 2013 19:57 -Celestial- wrote:
On September 05 2013 02:33 Gathris wrote:
Also how come no matter what, someone will unpause if you pause? My UI bugs out so I pause and say I'll be back in a minute, instantly gets unpaused by the BH on my team and I die...


I can never believe it when your own team unpauses. I had a brief minor emergency pop up during a game. Asked for a pause and hit the button. Went away. Two or three minutes tops and dealt with it. Came back...one of my own team had hit unpause and we'd lost a fight in the meantime.

Seriously...I can understand it if people pause and just say nothing, you have no idea whats going on. And I can even understand the other team wanting to be a bit dickish and play the "pause/unpause" fighting game with your team.

But why the hell would you want to screw over your OWN TEAM by unpausing when they're not there unless its been like...5-10 minutes with no word?

Because fuck pauses. Every. Single. Game. It feels like someone needs to pause, most of the time for something stupid (teammate didnt pick a hero, pause plz). I unpause no matter what team im on . Yea its sorta douchy to people who have a legitimate unforseen reason but whatever. I'm impatient and 99% of the time its shit that should have taken care of before queuing up.

Yeah, being an grown ass adult and having a girlfriend who lives with me, you are pretty much the Duke of DoucheLand. If she needs to ask me a question or is leaving, I will pause the game for 30 seconds to a minute to say goodbye or answer the question. And sometimes shit happens. Other people have lives, wives, children and all sorts of other things. A bit of a douche and if you were on my team and did that, I might forget to buy wards a couple times in response. But, lucky for me, I only play in 5 man stacks.


Yes because unpausing means I dont have a girlfriend and Im not an adult. Are you one of those people who thinks unpausing is reportable under ability abuse?

Its not anyone's obligation to wait for ur stuff. I dont expect 9 other people to wait because my gf calls me. Its a courtesy, not something ur entitled to

Exactly, its a courtesy that we give fellow players out of respect and understanding that unexpected things come up and we want everyone to have a good game. Its a nice thing to do. And I assume because you are unwilling to do it for me that you do not respect me and feel no need to be nice. So in return, I will treat you in kind.

You are freely entitled to be a dick and I will never report you for it. However, I will treat you like the dick that you are. Life is hard like that.


and I consider it courtesy for other people not to waste my time with their personal things. I don't unpause for everything. If someone says "sec, shop's bugged I need to restart" then obviously I'll wait, but "sec, my gf wants a goodbye kiss" or "sec, pizza guy's here" isn't a good enough reason for me.

On September 06 2013 04:33 Belisarius wrote:
I would probably report someone who repeatedly unpaused on one of their teammates. That's obnoxious enough behaviour that it qualifies as ruining a game, which, to me, is the simplest litmus test for deserving a report.

I really don't understand impatient people who play dota. Dota is, by definition, a game requiring patience. For goodness' sakes, if you die at a high level you can end up spending whole minutes on the sideline. If you can't wait a couple of extra minutes at the start, you might want to reconsider your preferred genre.


I play dota because it's fun. In game moments requiring patience and passivity are part of the game. Waiting for people's random shit isn't fun, and that sort of patience isn't part of the game.



The world doesn't stop for Dota. Random shit happens.

In a game where you play with 9 people, being considerate is a virtue.

If you have no patience, play 1v1 starcraft. That way you can leave without consequence.

If you can't play starcraft, play Dota vs bots.

Yes there are limits to pausing, but just unpausing for the sake of being an impatient douche you really shouldn't be playing with the other kids

Going to a safe place for 30 seconds really ruins the game yeah... Seriously, if the pause is just 30 sec and not before a teamfight, don't pause, 30 seconds of idling in a hidden spot is not game changing 95% of time. Most of the time besides people don't even say "1 min plz", if they don't, I unpause. f they ask gently, no problem. But stop pausing for "my gf asked me something", you miss 3 last hits and then? Not the end of the world... It happens to me all the time.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
September 06 2013 12:36 GMT
#14618
There should be some kind of quick language test when you choose your preferences...
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 12:40:13
September 06 2013 12:39 GMT
#14619
huskar called jugg useless, jugg decides to go afk jungling "to teach huskar a lesson". Huskar thinks we have to win in the next 10 seconds, suicide fights 1vs5 - AFTER HE GETS DOOMED. Nature Prophet also thinks that we absolutely have to win in the next 10 seconds, pushes and dies despite having shadow blade and the enemy doesn't have detection, repeatedly (???). Windrunner goes "gg, blame jugg", stops playing.

And that's the story of how I lost a nearly unloseable game. Because people are whiny motherfuckers.
Ryrmidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada371 Posts
September 06 2013 14:22 GMT
#14620
On September 06 2013 12:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 12:36 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:04 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 06 2013 03:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2013 02:57 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:45 Plansix wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:09 Ryrmidon wrote:
On September 05 2013 19:57 -Celestial- wrote:
On September 05 2013 02:33 Gathris wrote:
Also how come no matter what, someone will unpause if you pause? My UI bugs out so I pause and say I'll be back in a minute, instantly gets unpaused by the BH on my team and I die...


I can never believe it when your own team unpauses. I had a brief minor emergency pop up during a game. Asked for a pause and hit the button. Went away. Two or three minutes tops and dealt with it. Came back...one of my own team had hit unpause and we'd lost a fight in the meantime.

Seriously...I can understand it if people pause and just say nothing, you have no idea whats going on. And I can even understand the other team wanting to be a bit dickish and play the "pause/unpause" fighting game with your team.

But why the hell would you want to screw over your OWN TEAM by unpausing when they're not there unless its been like...5-10 minutes with no word?

Because fuck pauses. Every. Single. Game. It feels like someone needs to pause, most of the time for something stupid (teammate didnt pick a hero, pause plz). I unpause no matter what team im on . Yea its sorta douchy to people who have a legitimate unforseen reason but whatever. I'm impatient and 99% of the time its shit that should have taken care of before queuing up.

Yeah, being an grown ass adult and having a girlfriend who lives with me, you are pretty much the Duke of DoucheLand. If she needs to ask me a question or is leaving, I will pause the game for 30 seconds to a minute to say goodbye or answer the question. And sometimes shit happens. Other people have lives, wives, children and all sorts of other things. A bit of a douche and if you were on my team and did that, I might forget to buy wards a couple times in response. But, lucky for me, I only play in 5 man stacks.


Yes because unpausing means I dont have a girlfriend and Im not an adult. Are you one of those people who thinks unpausing is reportable under ability abuse?

Its not anyone's obligation to wait for ur stuff. I dont expect 9 other people to wait because my gf calls me. Its a courtesy, not something ur entitled to

Exactly, its a courtesy that we give fellow players out of respect and understanding that unexpected things come up and we want everyone to have a good game. Its a nice thing to do. And I assume because you are unwilling to do it for me that you do not respect me and feel no need to be nice. So in return, I will treat you in kind.

You are freely entitled to be a dick and I will never report you for it. However, I will treat you like the dick that you are. Life is hard like that.


and I consider it courtesy for other people not to waste my time with their personal things. I don't unpause for everything. If someone says "sec, shop's bugged I need to restart" then obviously I'll wait, but "sec, my gf wants a goodbye kiss" or "sec, pizza guy's here" isn't a good enough reason for me.

On September 06 2013 04:33 Belisarius wrote:
I would probably report someone who repeatedly unpaused on one of their teammates. That's obnoxious enough behaviour that it qualifies as ruining a game, which, to me, is the simplest litmus test for deserving a report.

I really don't understand impatient people who play dota. Dota is, by definition, a game requiring patience. For goodness' sakes, if you die at a high level you can end up spending whole minutes on the sideline. If you can't wait a couple of extra minutes at the start, you might want to reconsider your preferred genre.


I play dota because it's fun. In game moments requiring patience and passivity are part of the game. Waiting for people's random shit isn't fun, and that sort of patience isn't part of the game.


Yeah, waiting around for a minute or two so someone can take care of something unexpected is just part of real life. Its not fun, but we sometimes have to do not fun stuff in life for a minute because we are nice people. Its called being a polite adult, not a self important man-child. What do you think people do when they play pick up basket ball and one of their girlfriends or children needs to talk for a minute? Keep on playing and throw the ball at the back of the guy’s head until he plays?

Seriously, this discussion is tired. Nothing your saying is incorrect, its just childish. There is no way in person that you would just charge ahead if someone said “Can you please wait a minute? I have to do BLANK.” But through the internet, where at the other end can do nothing, of course you act like it all about you and your fun. So you are entitled to do it, but it still makes you an asshole.



I consider someone who feels they're entitled to make 9 other people wait because of their personal stuff a "self important man-child". You said yourself people treat you how you act, so there you go. 1 minute isn't gonna change much in a pub game, just do whatever you need to and deal with it.

I bet you also let the elevator door close when people are running and asking you to hold it, because they shouldn't feel so self important to make you and the 4 other people in the elevator. Or you just stand there people say excuse me, because why should you have to move over when they can just figure out their way around you. Or at dinner when someone asks you to pass the rolls and you say "No, I am eating, get them yourself."

As I said before, a special place in hell for people like that, right next to people who talk in the theater.


Your examples are completely exaggerated. This is closer to a person pressing the elevator button, and when it arrives telling the 9 people on the elevator to hold it open for 2 minutes and wait so you can answer a phone call. I'd tell them to wait for the next damn elevator.
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