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Had an extremely frustrating game.
Team: Clockwerk (me, offlane), OD, Treant, Luna, Lesh vs Void, Axe, Kunkka, CK, Lion
Game starts good. I go pretty even with void 1v1, cant really stop him from farming but I get good farm too. OD shits on kunkka mid. Bottom lane goes a bit back and forth, kills for both sides. Prophet afk jungle but pretty standard.
I hit 6 and start ganking because I cant stop void anymore really. Double kill CK/Lion instantly when I hit 6. Start getting really good lead. At around 20 min, proph has boots/midas/shadow blade, OD has boots/bottle/wand/3k in bank, luna tranq/yasha/domi/stats, me arc boots/almost scepter, lesh pretty naked. Void has naked BF, axe has blink and half a vanguard, Kunkka has boots and bottle, CK has arc boots (???) and lion has nothing. About 10k gold ahead (29k - 19k). Youd think with this kind of mid game team (OD aura with prophet/lesh/luna, super ahead) against a team of void + 3 melee it would be super easy to push right? So I tell team we should 5 man take outer towers rosh and rax fast, not let void farm and end when we are ahead. But its a pub sooooo....How about a no.
OD uses that 3k bank to buy a shadow blade. Everyone on the team INSISTS on absolutely avoiding to push at all costs. Luna, Prophet and OD all disconnect about once every 2 minutes, especially Luna disconnecting during multiple big team fights, just running to base at full hp. Later on prophets attempts at split push end up with him practically teleporting on top of enemy players, even when visible on minimap, and dying everytime. And 40 minutes later, void is 6 slotted and we lose.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/239586220
Funniest part is that at different times between minutes 40-55 different people from my team keep saying how we should start pushing, not like Ive been saying that for the last half an hour or anything. OD goes for the traditional "its only a game" speech once we finally lose, although I admit I was expressing myself less eloquently at that point.
Even higher parts of very high arent immune to the pub syndrome ~_~
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Gotta love Drow <333 even noobs who can't farm can suddenly become Sylar and carry a game.
edit: For example, Mirana with phase boots + persevereance = Over 200 dmg. LEGIT LMFAO.
edit: Then I get matched with FOUR FUCKING RUSSIANS, one of which picks Lycan but never goes to do rosh. Another guy picks Weaver, always split push and 50 minutes in only has desolator. The third one picks Clockwerk but he never initiates with hook and the fourth one picks Necro and never uses Scyte. EU WEST FTW.
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On July 11 2013 15:10 Kmatt wrote:
Ugh. We were so close.
I was Sandy Claws, had a terrible start, we had 2 easy double kills slip right between the teeth and started 0-2 on both me and Treant. Spent the whole game crawling back against a lineup whose hardest carries were Slark and Centaur.
My russian friend lastpicked Clinkz (we didn't have any other carry besides DK but it was still funny) and we managed to drag it out to 50 minutes all rax down.
While DK's item choices were questionable (soulring-HotD-BKB-A̶t̶t̶a̶c̶k̶S̶p̶e̶e̶d̶Abyssal-Satanic), we managed to pull through to the last fight. Support gyro had run, treant had just died, clinkz and I were out, so it was 6slot DK against Slark, Lion (we burned him Aegis, lol), and 5.5k hp Pudge. But he was built like a mofo, time to
NOT
USE
ACTIVE
SKILLS
BKB? Satanic? Too much APM bro.
none of those are questionable other than abyssal and satanic.
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I love it when the pubbers send the fucking carry 1v1 bot with no wards, no pulled regen, no flying courier and no help and expect it to win when its a bad matchup.
Morph vs clinkz, i cant bottlecrow because there's no flying, cant really trade hits 'cos searing, i just got what i could, 13 mins in, orchid appears on clinkz (naked one), they had 2 towers and clinkz had gotten 1, Obviously i should have linkens and 3 more items by then coming from these retards.
They even went offensive trilane and fed 7 kills in 4 minutes.... Gosh, sometimes i just need to chill and open a beer.
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On July 12 2013 01:03 DV G wrote:
I love it when the pubbers send the fucking carry 1v1 bot with no wards, no pulled regen, no flying courier and no help and expect it to win when its a bad matchup.
Morph vs clinkz, i cant bottlecrow because there's no flying, cant really trade hits 'cos searing, i just got what i could, 13 mins in, orchid appears on clinkz (naked one), they had 2 towers and clinkz had gotten 1, Obviously i should have linkens and 3 more items by then coming from these retards.
They even went offensive trilane and fed 7 kills in 4 minutes.... Gosh, sometimes i just need to chill and open a beer.
Lol sucks. I had to play Nyx vs Razor mid the other day with no wards or flying courier despite us having 2 supports
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No. Lets not lane like it tells us to in the compendium game. Lets do something completely opposite! I'm sure those progamers doesn't know what they're doing anyways. Since the lanes are so easy, lets put lycan in the forest, nyx mid, and jurnero solo bot with omno and kotl top!
What could go wrong?!
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On July 12 2013 00:05 SXGCoil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 15:10 Kmatt wrote:
Ugh. We were so close.
I was Sandy Claws, had a terrible start, we had 2 easy double kills slip right between the teeth and started 0-2 on both me and Treant. Spent the whole game crawling back against a lineup whose hardest carries were Slark and Centaur.
My russian friend lastpicked Clinkz (we didn't have any other carry besides DK but it was still funny) and we managed to drag it out to 50 minutes all rax down.
While DK's item choices were questionable (soulring-HotD-BKB-A̶t̶t̶a̶c̶k̶S̶p̶e̶e̶d̶Abyssal-Satanic), we managed to pull through to the last fight. Support gyro had run, treant had just died, clinkz and I were out, so it was 6slot DK against Slark, Lion (we burned him Aegis, lol), and 5.5k hp Pudge. But he was built like a mofo, time to
NOT
USE
ACTIVE
SKILLS
BKB? Satanic? Too much APM bro. none of those are questionable other than abyssal and satanic.
The questionable part was that he was a massive tank and hit like one, but he took so long to kill people he just kind of out-lived the fight.
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0/12/1 last pick AM
for the love of god...
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I love dota 2 matchmaking. It is just super fucking logical.
Played a few game yesterday with my friend. did really well. won 3 in a row. Good day. I was on the edge about goin to bed or playin another.
we played another.
BIG MISTAKE. I play in normal bracket, and sometimes a game or two in high. have about 200 games played in mm. But suddenly we are facing a team (not a stack) of all +650 wins players. and they just roll face over us. Our team was me my friend and 3 randos all with between 65-140 wins. I just don't understand (inb4 but Wins don't mean anything in MM.......) why players who've played a lot more and are definitely a lot more experience are matched like that.
and then today I get the other end of the spectrum where myteam has two players who've literally never played before. and vs a team of people with around 200 games played. again. we get rolled. I just don't understand why the skill brackets are so god damn large.
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BTW psa to all slarks: stop fucking getting shadow blade. a good team will buy a gem vs slark and you're just being a pubtard failure.
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Tonight...wow...just...wow...
First game: I'm position 1 Necro having to safelane solo. Enchant jungles "I'm doing an unusual build" ok fine whatever. TA is mid.
TA yells at the team all game and is terrible at ganking. Bottom never calls SS on the Spirit Breaker which combined with a total lack of wards gets me killed for FB against a Gondar, Zeus, Spirit Breaker gank. Enchantress' "unusual build" is Midas > Treads > Bloodstone. Finishes the game with Treads, Midas and Perse at 35 minutes.
Ok. It happens sometimes. Onto the next.
Second game: I first pick Spectre because its the only one in my draft I can play. People pick DK, Gondar, Mirana, Sand King...ugh. I'm top lane with Sand King against goddamn Lich Axe. Axe is the luckiest axe in the world and gets a basically immediate double first blood after spinning three or four times in a row as soon as we get near to the lane. Great start!
Game goes on for ages. We kinda almost pull it back purely because I can outcarry anything they have but we can't hold out for quite long enough.
Disappointing but whatever. Lets try again.
Third game: I'm jungle Lycan. Riki is mid against a tunnel-vision SF who is just autoattacking and never goes for a rune. Perfect. Drow solo top with Dazzle insisting on going suicide lane with Broodmother for "super push power". Ok, whatever. Just don't feed.
Things go really well. We get a kill lead and Riki is up 3-0.
He disconnects. We wait. Wait about 8 minutes on pause, can't wait any longer, go again. We're still good, I'm getting good jungle farm and Drow is getting good farm. We can 4v5 this.
Dazzle: "I'm leaving at abandon, waste of time."
What the hell man? Seriously? We can win this game and we're AHEAD even if we're down one person.
He quits. So does Brood. Drow soon after because we can't really 2v5.
Fourth game: Team is debating what to pick. Someone vaguely calls mid and then doesn't pick a mid so I spend a few minutes asking "are you mid?" No reply. I pick Puck way after creepspawn.
Antimage is mid. Whole team has like...less than a hundred total wins. I have four hundred. Other team has about 300 wins collectively.
If I'd just picked Troll I could have carried it.  Instead I'm stuck as safelane support Puck who is about 2 minutes late to the lane. Totally sucks. WTF is with this crappy matchmaking?
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why the fuck do peruvians queue on us west and complain about 350 ping
NO FUCKING SHIT YOU'LL LAG YOU'RE PLAYING ON THE WRONG SERVERS
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/240725159
http://dotabuff.com/matches/240751730
Let the learning of junglers begin. I see a whole lot of flame, torment and suffering in the horizon.
In other words, I'm fucking shit at playing junglers. Holy fuck.
Actually let's expand that to supports in general. Sure, it's relatively easy to ward but when it comes to the jungle tricks, counterwarding and not dying, things get really complicated. First I need to know all the pull things (which I, well, don't lol), then I need to know if they are warding and then know where they are warding. At that point everything goes to shit.
Oh and positioning on top of all that. I respect good support players way more now.
Well, I suppose there's a moment in every dota player's life where they feed 30 games in a row to learn how things work. Time to get that over with.
In other news, do people seriously expect their teammates to suddenly get better by flaming them? I had that happen and well, I stopped caring about the outcome at that point.
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People who dont get that flaming their teammates doesnt make them perform better.....
Nyx flaming Juggernaut that he sucks since minute 3 or something like that ....
What a surprise Juggernaut stopped caring about the game at all (and basically threw it)....
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3 stack spanish, an english speaking dusa and me.
I die 5 times as a weaver due to my own mistakes.
So they want to report me when the spanish SF and lina didnt finish anything and die 10 times each, and the dusa never try to farm but instead plow into all team fight?
Pubs dont understand about split pushing when ur behind and had a better late game team.....
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I swear, some nagas probably don't know that they can cancel their ult, or they don't fully understand that it makes enemies immune to damage.
Story: pub CM game, the naga on the enemy team ults us AFTER her allies Gyro and Kunkka both cast their ulties, and doesn't cancel it until after they both finished hitting nothing. We smashed the teamfight and took a t3, but holy hell, she just let it finish, didn't try to cancel or anything. I'd be so mad if I were on her team.
EDIT: For the QQ: I just realized our Luna built a vlads, to complement the one already built by our slark....argh
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Last game i played with 3 players from jordan and 1 from Russia. Server EU west. Language only english. Russian guy randoms LD and insta repicks with pudge. At 1.02 gives first blood to WR. Exactly 1 succesful hooks all game long.(I warded like mad to make his hooks easier.) He ended the game with 2 Clarity potion, Wand and phase boots.
Top lane me (WD) and Troll. Enemy has god damn Tiny Cent combo. And they are at a team (most probably using skype) Tiny throw + cent stun + Tiny stun + cent Double Edge. I'm dead. No way to stop it. I said stay Troll to "stay a bit forward then me i can stun cent." Then... Then... HE RIGHT CLICKED ON ME EVERYTIME. Cent stuns both of us. 1300 tange on level 1 toss is redicilous. 3 double kill goes to cent.....
Volvo... You must be a joke!
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Just in general losing 5 after winning 10+ just sucks! Its like the valve gods kick in the auto 50/50% W/R
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On July 12 2013 11:13 Vod.kaholic wrote:
I swear, some nagas probably don't know that they can cancel their ult, or they don't fully understand that it makes enemies immune to damage.
Story: pub CM game, the naga on the enemy team ults us AFTER her allies Gyro and Kunkka both cast their ulties, and doesn't cancel it until after they both finished hitting nothing. We smashed the teamfight and took a t3, but holy hell, she just let it finish, didn't try to cancel or anything. I'd be so mad if I were on her team.
EDIT: For the QQ: I just realized our Luna built a vlads, to complement the one already built by our slark....argh
Naga sirens are universally terrible with their ults.
The same goes for any hero with a remove-from-play disable. OD, SD, even voker's tornado and euls have the problem.
They will invariably start every gank and teamfight with their banish, even when there are other stuns and we're all in position, or our initiator has already gone on an out-of-position target. And then they will complain when we get wiped by counter-init while we're all just standing around for 4 seconds. .
Naga ult is just the screen-wide version of that, and is proportionately more annoying.
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My teammates decide that a Venge (me) soloing all the warding and dewarding duties was a good idea. I don't think our treant or shadow shaman even got wards. ._.
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