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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On July 07 2013 12:54 Infernal_dream wrote: Meh it's not that much harder. It's an incentive to get people to play different heroes. I'll play a 250 gold disadvantage in order to not have the same games in pubs as I see in tournaments everyday. This is why I random in AP. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On July 07 2013 05:28 Ryrmidon wrote: Anyone else hate when someone 5th picks a hero that makes no sense in your lineup, then expects the team to accommodate them? We had a lina and PA who called safelane, OD who went mid, and enigma who wanted to jungle. Guy waits 30 seconds after game starts, 5th picks void, tells PA to get out of safelane because "you need less farm". Really? It happens all the time. Sometimes they're nice. As i swapped for OD with another guy who random, our last second pudge heads toward mid, I ask him gently and he let me mid. However as OD mid, I faced nyx, I'll go bottle OD next time versus nyx. Anyway I have good farm but can not put nyx oom and he roams all the time after 6, we have 0 wards, I'm 0 2 0. And this pudge flames me saying "oh noob, carry going mek". I invested into wards with another guy (it was not the support), and we then proceed to rape their 4 carries + nyx line up. I unmuted pudge and ask him about my build as I was something like 10 2 13, top kills, top assists and less deaths. No answer, it felt even better than all he could have said as he was commentating a lot early game. | ||
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
On July 07 2013 12:54 Infernal_dream wrote: Meh it's not that much harder. It's an incentive to get people to play different heroes. I'll play a 250 gold disadvantage in order to not have the same games in pubs as I see in tournaments everyday. Good news is at least is that swapping heroes (not sure if happens for all swaps or just if you random and swap) now costs 100 gold (I believe its 100), so if you get stacks who all random then swap the advantage isn't as big as you think. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
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SXGCoil
United States341 Posts
#RandomDraftMasterRace | ||
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Random_Guy09
Canada1010 Posts
I proceed to try and give him some advice (figured he'd be a little smarter considering he used to play dota 1) and he waves it off saying it will be fine. Well he gets FB so I think this game will go well. As the game progresses his items and decision making are those of a non english speaking troll or something. Grabs a bracer (ok hes going to build drums) NOPE. While still farming myself with the Omni top. Do another item check like 10 minutes later or something. HE HAS A PERSEVERANCE. Game progresses and I see he picks up and Ogre Club. Ok this is looking good he'll maybe go for something intelligent like a BKB as we're facing alot of stuns. (Sand king, LD bear, ET Sleep) NOPE picks up a fucking Sange.... Then proceeds into a S&Y with no dmg items at all.. Then goes and rushes BoTs and farms all fucking game bot. Team fights happen at towers? NOPE He'd rather be abysmally farming and not fucking helping us. We're all calling for him to come help and he just ignores the whole team and is popping DRAGON FORM TO FUCKING FARM. Every fight he came in later in the game ended up in him overextending and DYING TO STUNS EVERYWHERE. I tell him bkb is good item. He calls it a SELFISH ITEM. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME YOUR FARMING ALONE ALL GAME AND THE DIRE IS DUMB ENOUGH TO NOT SOLO GANK YOU AT EVERY CHANCE THEN WHEN YOU COME TO GOD DAMN TEAM FIGHTS YOU DIE TO EVERYTHING CAUSE YOU DONT BUY THE SIMPLEST ITEM THAT WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE. YOUR OUR FUCKING HARD CARRY AND YOU REFUSE TO FIGHT AND HELP US WIN AND DONT BUY A BKB TO SURVIVE. AND YOUR ITEM CHOICES ARE FUCKING WORSE THAN ANY PUB I'VE BEEN IN? Game ID# 236649621 Most of his kills were pick offs caused by me ulti'ing a lonely hero and him getting kills from it. Our omni didn't play that bad in the laning stages. and fucking IO troll relocated me into 3 fucking heroes in the river that cost me a death for no reason. Game was kind of winnable if my buddy (who I will no longer play games with considering his hardheadedness about picking normal not trollish items) actually bought somewhat normal items. I'm not apposed to people who can actually farm and get some troll items early while somewhat trying to win by picking some regular items. But this was just so infuriating that he refused to get the item that could have given us a good chance to take some team fights. Also not apposed to losing some good games when MM gives me them. Figured playing with someone else would give me some good games considering since I've started playing I've been playing solo que support. -22 thanks MM really helps when you pair me up with retarded carries that can't last hit somewhat well and people that decide when they see heroes fucking mid river that they want to go and fight. Jesus I just can't catch a break. | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
the tinker had random gold advantage as well fkkkkkk he then proceed to do nothing for the rest of the game even though he maxed rocket/laser. did not gank once SIGH SO MAD | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On July 07 2013 19:03 me_viet wrote: how the fuck does tinker lose mid to a cm. the tinker had random gold advantage as well fkkkkkk he then proceed to do nothing for the rest of the game even though he maxed rocket/laser. did not gank once SIGH SO MAD cm strongest lvl 2 hero in the game and to the guy with the dk friend...sounds rough, lol. Is he a good friend? | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
I can't win matches anymore. Every game I play my team consists of either new players, or very very stupid players, and no matter how well I do I can't win solo. I love dota, but it's really leaving me disinterested on clicking the "Find Match' button. Edit: Or should I convince my low-skill friends to let me play with them and pray that I face their skill-level enemys | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Turns out drow good hero. Dude is terrible, but is still a drow that never gets ganked. Mysteriously forgets how to click on things every single teamfight, until everyone else on our team is dead. Secures plenty of kills with this tactic, then buys a goddamn divine and feeds it just as we siege their second lane of rax. Solo queue, you're better than this. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On July 07 2013 20:08 ReignSupreme. wrote: Should I make an alternate account? I can't win matches anymore. Every game I play my team consists of either new players, or very very stupid players, and no matter how well I do I can't win solo. I love dota, but it's really leaving me disinterested on clicking the "Find Match' button. Edit: Or should I convince my low-skill friends to let me play with them and pray that I face their skill-level enemys If you already have a high win account, its going to be MUCH better to stick with that account as the MM will be more stable in the long run. I found myself in exactly your situation. After a heavy losing streak in solo q, I decided to start a new account to beat up on some noobs. The reality is that you rape your first games against actual new players and its simply not satisfying at all and I felt bad for doing that. Then the matchmaking places you in a bizarre state where ppl in your games are supposedly high-skill but since everyone has so few games played, there is no consistency at all. Even after as little as 8 games, you can be placed in "very high" but this means nothing as ppl are still terrible. The skill level overall was much lower than the people I got matched with on my main account so I just stuck with playing my main account. Also, the queue time to find games when you have so few games played. If you have friends who play, its always going to be more fun playing with them, even if you lose. I only have 2 friends who play Dota and when I queue with them, the matchmaking has usually placed me with ppl of their skill range rather than bumping them up with ppl of my skill range. It was enough of a difference where if I end up solo mid I can usually snowball into a win. Even in games that we lose, it doesnt feel as bad losing with friends rather than losing in solo q. Anyways, I'm pretty sure that the matchmaking algorithms accuracy improves as you play more games so starting a new account will just restart all the frustration from square 1. edit: Here is my QQ from my "smurf" account. Got placed in a -cm game. Other team is a 3 stack. Our captain doesn't really know how to draft but the rest of us try to guide him and it doesn't end up too horrible. As Radiant, we end up with an SD, Jakrio, Naix aggro tri going against a Sven/Bane + Chen jungle. I'm SD but the other 2 have no clue. Jakiro has probably never trilaned before but thats ok since the combo isn't too hard to execute. However, the Naix flames us all game for not setting up kills for him in lane. He is more interested in our dotabuff stats rather than his own play. My record is somethin like 30-45 on this account though he pulls some random 30-150 record which he keeps spamming in all-chat to the other team. Apparently he has 400 wins so he must be right. Anyways, despite keeping calm, I was unable to explain why his build couldn't get him kills. He went max feast, then open wounds, 1 pt rage. He said he doesn't need rage to kill with jakiro icepath/dual breath after disrupt. It's not like he needs that free bkb to go through sven stuns or bane sleeps or anything like that. Nah man, he got so many wins. Nah man, Rage is a fucking shitty spell. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On July 07 2013 12:54 Infernal_dream wrote: Meh it's not that much harder. It's an incentive to get people to play different heroes. I'll play a 250 gold disadvantage in order to not have the same games in pubs as I see in tournaments everyday. No, the only purpose of random in AP is to let people avoid the tremendous effort of actually thinking about their picks. That, and allow them to blame someone else for the inevitable 1-protect-4. "We needed an offlaner..." "stfu I randomed" You sure did. You randomed last when we needed an offlaner. How, exactly, does that get you out of anything? | ||
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On July 07 2013 12:54 Infernal_dream wrote: Meh it's not that much harder. It's an incentive to get people to play different heroes. I'll play a 250 gold disadvantage in order to not have the same games in pubs as I see in tournaments everyday. Except you can still try new heroes without randoming, there's even a button that spins to a random hero without actually selecting him. A friend I play with a lot literally randoms every single game because he doesnt want to play without the random gold | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
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Gotuso
Netherlands733 Posts
On July 07 2013 21:53 Belisarius wrote: No, the only purpose of random in AP is to let people avoid the tremendous effort of actually thinking about their picks. Thank god for that, I can never decide what to pick but thanks to the random option I don't have to! Seriously though, randoming does force you to try more heroes and not stick with the same ones all the time. That said, you should only random as the first 2-3 heroes on your team. Unless the entire team randoms, in which case: #YOLO! QQ: I random whisp and have a Gyro and Tiny on my team. It's a 5 stack and we're on mumble. Yet we still lose our Tiny Whisp lane vs a solo Sniper, partially because I can't play Whisp (first time). My first relocate gank ended up with feeding 2 deaths and overall it was horrible. And then the server died and the game never counted! Close one! :D | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
Bro, that is not a time to say "finish plz." Every pub game I have at least one douchebag that does that. If you're going to "give up" like that, camp your fountain. Otherwise, don't be a retard and type that shit in all chat. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
On July 08 2013 01:50 shizaep wrote: People that are like, "omg finish fast plz. plz finish" and then proceed to vigorously defend their high ground, try to push out their lanes and get kills. Bro, that is not a time to say "finish plz." Every pub game I have at least one douchebag that does that. If you're going to "give up" like that, camp your fountain. Otherwise, don't be a retard and type that shit in all chat. Or when you're at an advantage and pushing their lanes and shit and they type "push already". And the only reasonable answer you can give is "look at what we're doing right now". That's obviously not nearly as annoying still, even a minor annoyance is worth mentioning! edit: Also in my recent games I had an insane amount of "please ban XYZ" after said player had lost the lane in the game. Like that's a fucking reason. If he was intentionally feeding or flaming them and what not. But no, all you get is "please report XYZ thanks". Lastly apparently there's now some disconnect issue on EU west servers which prevent you from reconnecting. In the 2 games I had today I was in a great position before this happened. No more Dota for me today. | ||
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