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beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
July 05 2013 18:40 GMT
#12381
On July 05 2013 16:33 tjuggx wrote:
Im undying solo top vs ck wlock, died once at lvl 5. The russian allmighty stack feeds hard. OD dies twice to axe @midlane (??????), furion jungles, dies 4 times trying to help their helpless spec / disruptor lane, while they have died 7 times in 10min. Spectre spams 'you bad )))))' all game to me and they told me they will 4man report me. Gg

why not just solo queue so you don't run into stacks? takes 2-3 minutes more to find a game but will ALWAYS be worth it.
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 05 2013 18:45 GMT
#12382
On July 06 2013 03:40 beesinyoface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 16:33 tjuggx wrote:
Im undying solo top vs ck wlock, died once at lvl 5. The russian allmighty stack feeds hard. OD dies twice to axe @midlane (??????), furion jungles, dies 4 times trying to help their helpless spec / disruptor lane, while they have died 7 times in 10min. Spectre spams 'you bad )))))' all game to me and they told me they will 4man report me. Gg

why not just solo queue so you don't run into stacks? takes 2-3 minutes more to find a game but will ALWAYS be worth it.

Playing both with and against groups is in general more fun imo, even when soloing. Coordination improves and people are slightly more likely to do the "right" thing.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
July 05 2013 19:21 GMT
#12383
On July 06 2013 03:45 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 03:40 beesinyoface wrote:
On July 05 2013 16:33 tjuggx wrote:
Im undying solo top vs ck wlock, died once at lvl 5. The russian allmighty stack feeds hard. OD dies twice to axe @midlane (??????), furion jungles, dies 4 times trying to help their helpless spec / disruptor lane, while they have died 7 times in 10min. Spectre spams 'you bad )))))' all game to me and they told me they will 4man report me. Gg

why not just solo queue so you don't run into stacks? takes 2-3 minutes more to find a game but will ALWAYS be worth it.

Playing both with and against groups is in general more fun imo, even when soloing. Coordination improves and people are slightly more likely to do the "right" thing.


My experience in solo queue has been that people are more willing to start cooperating, because they know that unless they start talking and coordinating, nothing will get done, since they can't rely on a stack to be coordinated for them. There are of course the games where nothing gets done right, but the impromptu team-work happens often enough that it's worth it.
._. \: |: /: .-. :\ :| :/ ._. They see me rolling...
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 19:36:01
July 05 2013 19:34 GMT
#12384
On July 06 2013 04:21 Vod.kaholic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 03:45 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 06 2013 03:40 beesinyoface wrote:
On July 05 2013 16:33 tjuggx wrote:
Im undying solo top vs ck wlock, died once at lvl 5. The russian allmighty stack feeds hard. OD dies twice to axe @midlane (??????), furion jungles, dies 4 times trying to help their helpless spec / disruptor lane, while they have died 7 times in 10min. Spectre spams 'you bad )))))' all game to me and they told me they will 4man report me. Gg

why not just solo queue so you don't run into stacks? takes 2-3 minutes more to find a game but will ALWAYS be worth it.

Playing both with and against groups is in general more fun imo, even when soloing. Coordination improves and people are slightly more likely to do the "right" thing.


My experience in solo queue has been that people are more willing to start cooperating, because they know that unless they start talking and coordinating, nothing will get done, since they can't rely on a stack to be coordinated for them. There are of course the games where nothing gets done right, but the impromptu team-work happens often enough that it's worth it.


Agreed, the game I mentioned on the other page would probably have been a complete loss if there'd been a couple of people stacked in it. To win me, Viper and Lycan had to strategise and share item building responsibilities and decide how to play it out. In the end we all made some good calls and pulled through. If there'd been a stack there's no way people would have cooperated like that and more likely they'd be raging on me for being unable to defeat Broodmother 1v1 and at Skywrath for being a newbie.

Just came out of another nicely teamworked game actually with a decently done 4-protect-1 strategy involving a Void. Solo queue seems to force people to cooperate. Don't get me wrong, there's still plenty of rage moments. But I see a lot less of the "gang up and yell at someone".
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ShadoWYP
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany83 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 10:14:19
July 06 2013 10:14 GMT
#12385
After having an awesome win pubstomb streak with some RL friends yesterday I decided to play some games alone again. Huge mistake, dota gave me the D again.

First game I am going Clock mid. My team: Chen (jungle), Axe (offlane), Dazzle, Troll Warlord. Their team, Lina, Silencer Luna Lion Faceless Void

So I am going up against Silence mid and manage to kill him 3 times in the first 6 min. After getting arcanes I proceed to go gank the lanes which was always really sucessful since I hit the timing where the enemy tried get the last hit on a very low hp hero of our team which means they were being low hp themselve and clumped. So I hook, get double kills on Lion Lina and Silencer Luna. After 10 min, it is 10 : 7. I am asking myself how the F*** they could feed so hard on lanes but was like nvm I killed them alot we should be even. After some teamfights where my teammates die cause of stupid diving but me manage to get some kills. I am like 14:0 but felt we were loosing which was right cause void came in just with mom battlefury and crystalis and raped our whole team. Ofc troll had no farm as he sucks last hitting and diving like shit. He had phase and ring of aquila and by the time 1 min b4 game ended he finally got a bkb. Axe never rlly joined our fights as he never carried a cheap ass tp, Troll Warlord after 36 min game: 101 Last Hits, i have 90 with a clockwerk..
2nd game, I decide its time to play jungle Lifestealer, as I havent played him in months and I am tired of other roles (implying supporting shit carrys).
First picks are me with Life, Puck and Juggernaut. I was hoping the other 2 pick supports, but nah, f*** you team, I wanted to carry and now I will pick carry anyway and make u loose the game. last 2 picks are Dragon Knight and Faceless Void.
Both go bottom dire lane and feed the wisp sven lane. Meanwhile solo juggernaut feeds rubick clinkz lane. Only one I had hope in was Puck as he managed to sucessfully gank the both top and bot lanes. Well after arcane boots one would expect that he gets a blink dagger to initiate properly. Nope rushes dagon instead and dies 10 times without killing anybody.
3rd game. Our team picks are treant, vengeful spirit Skelleton King and spirit breaker, I pick clock again as we have no mid.
Treant tells me that I shouldnt forget to gank alot as I am a imba gank hero. I thought hey he mb knows a little bit about the game and got hope that this team will be good. Nah nah nah dota wont let you play good games in pub without stacks.
What happens? Treant gets quelling blade iron branches and regen, venge gets some shit aswell nobody of them buys a courier. Lanes are even worse. Treant venge top dire lane and spirit breaker, sk bot dire suicide lane. Mid I face a Templar Invoker dual Lane (seems like they had retards in their team aswell as invoker told us to report TA). Besides being unmotivated by this team and getting no bottle I just leave after 2 min as I see first blood spirit breaker and sk got killed. didnt even care about possibly getting into low priority mm. Good feeling though that I purposly let the game go on for 5 min instead of abandoning the game right after leaving.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
July 06 2013 12:14 GMT
#12386
The moment you see somone pick medusa in a pub, you're probably doomed.

List of sins:
1. Split shot max first without ever attempting ancients
2. Never toggles off split shot
3. Decides joining ganks is better than farming- at 30 minutes this gem comes out: "I think I have to farm"
4. Uses ult when running from enemies
5. 0-3 by 10 minutes
6. Never farms whole game despite the ton of wards I've put up to cover him
7. Eventually rages at team
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
July 06 2013 12:26 GMT
#12387
people who have 300+ wins yet still pick a team of sniper, drow, skel king, sven, void. fortunately it was the other team, but I still have no patience for experienced people who have no understanding of the game. the thinking seems to be: "if I pick a carry i will get lots of kills :D". I guess they played a game where they went 20-0 with a carry, so they think they're amazingly skilled, resulting in them blaming their team for the rest of their dota career every time they don't achieve that 20-0.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 06 2013 12:53 GMT
#12388
Huskar goes 2-18, berates me (PL) for 'running' when I don't try to tank their entire team, and tells me he didn't 'have the luxury of farming safelane' when I respond with his score.

Guys I just want to be overpowered
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
July 06 2013 13:23 GMT
#12389
Why do some people even start flaming before the game even started. Dafuq is wrong with some people.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
July 06 2013 14:05 GMT
#12390
Picking Tinker makes me play like an asshole, but also seems to make my teams play stupid/selfish to punish me for it.

One game I'm against a Brood mid, so I pretty much have to go March max, right? Which also means I can't gank, right? Wisp on safe-lane bitches at me for not ganking when, as far as I'm aware, it's pretty much impossible for me to gank (unless you want the mid tower to instantly die). I start needing to bottle-crow and need a courier upgrade but he literally refuses to do it. In the end I should've just fucking done it myself though since what's the good in having Travels when I have to sit mid and spam march just to keep the Brood off my tower? (I eventually lost it anyway)

Second game I go laser rocket but never gank, which I want to blame on the Mirana I was up against getting literally every rune by either camping the spots 10 seconds in advance, having her teammates camp them, or me waiting on the top side of the lane and hoping it doesn't spawn bot for the umpteenth time in a row which of course it does, but in the end I should probably have just tried to make something happen anyway. Then after I get my Travels my team literally spends 10 minutes sitting under our mid T2 doing nothing while I farm the sidelanes. What the fuck should I have done? Was pushing the sidelanes preventing my allies farming? I mean, nobody would even go into the jungle, ffs just go as four to lay some wards down, we had fucking Warlock, Titan, and Veno, that's free teamfight wins, right? On the one hand there must have been some way I could've actively contributed more, but on the other it genuinely didn't seem like there was anything to contribute TO, because my teammates were literally doing nothing. I just don't fucking know.
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 14:07:56
July 06 2013 14:07 GMT
#12391
Did the servers just die? If so, this is the 4th time I'm winning a game and then servers crashes. Here I thought our invoker and nyx were idiots because they left for no reason. Seems they couldn't even reconnect.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
July 06 2013 14:32 GMT
#12392
On July 06 2013 21:53 Dfgj wrote:
Huskar goes 2-18, berates me (PL) for 'running' when I don't try to tank their entire team, and tells me he didn't 'have the luxury of farming safelane' when I respond with his score.

Guys I just want to be overpowered


Responding with score is gay as hell, has nothing to do with anything. Unless he has like 0-20
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
July 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#12393
On July 06 2013 23:32 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 21:53 Dfgj wrote:
Huskar goes 2-18, berates me (PL) for 'running' when I don't try to tank their entire team, and tells me he didn't 'have the luxury of farming safelane' when I respond with his score.

Guys I just want to be overpowered


Responding with score is gay as hell, has nothing to do with anything. Unless he has like 0-20

I don't think it's homosexual as hell. 2-18 is hardly different than 0-20
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 14:48:41
July 06 2013 14:39 GMT
#12394
sometimes I just...wish I could decide for people what to buy.

and today's record for dumbest thing I've seen - WR that went for ancients. Level 2 9 minutes into the game.

Fuck you, Ancient Windrunner.

edit: appearently it's a fucking thing, just like any other ranged hero on Radient. Except in the guide they get to level 7 by minute 9, not fucking level 2
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 06 2013 14:49 GMT
#12395
On July 06 2013 23:32 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 21:53 Dfgj wrote:
Huskar goes 2-18, berates me (PL) for 'running' when I don't try to tank their entire team, and tells me he didn't 'have the luxury of farming safelane' when I respond with his score.

Guys I just want to be overpowered


Responding with score is gay as hell, has nothing to do with anything. Unless he has like 0-20

It's relevant if he's asking why I don't try to manfight their whole team. He's been trying, and look where it got him.

Normally I agree with you but the guy was feeding at full force and calling me out for not doing the same.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 06 2013 15:03 GMT
#12396
On July 06 2013 23:49 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 23:32 Animzor wrote:
On July 06 2013 21:53 Dfgj wrote:
Huskar goes 2-18, berates me (PL) for 'running' when I don't try to tank their entire team, and tells me he didn't 'have the luxury of farming safelane' when I respond with his score.

Guys I just want to be overpowered


Responding with score is gay as hell, has nothing to do with anything. Unless he has like 0-20

It's relevant if he's asking why I don't try to manfight their whole team. He's been trying, and look where it got him.

Normally I agree with you but the guy was feeding at full force and calling me out for not doing the same.


Shame on you, not helping the other team win faster! Have you considered that they might want to win too? Jeez, be like that Huskar and stop being so selfish
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 15:13:50
July 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#12397
also this fucking game

http://dotabuff.com/matches/236252839

dumb teammates aside, we could've won had I just gotten a Hex instead of EBlade/Refresher, since AM just split pushed us to death

fffffffffffff we could have fucking won

SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
July 06 2013 15:37 GMT
#12398
On July 07 2013 00:12 hooahah wrote:
also this fucking game

http://dotabuff.com/matches/236252839

dumb teammates aside, we could've won had I just gotten a Hex instead of EBlade/Refresher, since AM just split pushed us to death

fffffffffffff we could have fucking won


eblade...? There is literally no reason to get that on tidehunter
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 15:45:49
July 06 2013 15:40 GMT
#12399
On July 07 2013 00:37 SXGCoil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 00:12 hooahah wrote:
also this fucking game

http://dotabuff.com/matches/236252839

dumb teammates aside, we could've won had I just gotten a Hex instead of EBlade/Refresher, since AM just split pushed us to death

fffffffffffff we could have fucking won


eblade...? There is literally no reason to get that on tidehunter


I had a ghost scepter and we were already against megacreeps. In hindsight it barely did anything but saving for buyback wouldn't have helped me.

but yeah, if I had just gotten a hex instead of the eblade

oh well, you learn from mistakes.
IcED Bk
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada245 Posts
July 06 2013 19:31 GMT
#12400
Playing Dota during the day is awful sometimes! Ended up on a team were I was the only one who spoke English. Everyone else was from Venezuela and got mad because I couldnt understand them... Also mad that I picked axe even thought the other team was all melee including carries. Im playing on NA East and West only

I died twice in 15mins and was called a feeder when I was vs a gyro/trent and jungle BS. Zues lost to a sniper mid and did not come top to stop a free farming gyro.

QQ hard
Advanced Dota 2 player and HoTs Diamond player and HS Player (almost legend ;P)
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