EPTand naturally, as I hit enter and tell them to fucking GO because its 5v4 and we can fucking demolish the enemy team I get jumped on.
every single teamfight FINISHED with sand king ult
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
and naturally, as I hit enter and tell them to fucking GO because its 5v4 and we can fucking demolish the enemy team I get jumped on. every single teamfight FINISHED with sand king ult every single one | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On June 28 2013 17:39 Eriksen wrote: Ouch, the lineup itself went wrong. Nevermind lol. But tbh, if you did gain advantage at mid, the game would be up in the balance until either your team or their team starting to fall. Insta-snowballing is bad, I know. I actually won mid and solokilled him, but I let him back in it by failing to gank sidelanes through living armour. That was pretty much it. What do you pick instead? | ||
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Eriksen
Micronesia720 Posts
On June 28 2013 18:01 Belisarius wrote: I actually won mid and solokilled him, but I let him back in it by failing to gank sidelanes through living armour. That was pretty much it. What do you pick instead? If the communication goes well, maybe: Silencer, Bristlebog, Centaur, or possibly any heroes that have the ability to counter-react their skillset. Magnus might work either. Oh yes! Not to mention, Sand King will do. | ||
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Netukka
71 Posts
On June 28 2013 18:01 Belisarius wrote: I actually won mid and solokilled him, but I let him back in it by failing to gank sidelanes through living armour. That was pretty much it. What do you pick instead? If they run lineup with heavy early push, could have picked something which can at least slow down their push. Maybe death prophet? Can also fuck up their team fight with big AoE silences after void ult. | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
The fact my teammates that game said the same thing, when I needed him to be a carry in that situation says a lot about the noobs the mm system keeps putting me with The fact you just said this too... do you even understand this hero? Thank god there were 2 other posts after yours that explained it quite nicely so I didn't have to | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On June 28 2013 20:59 sacrilegious wrote: The fact my teammates that game said the same thing, when I needed him to be a carry in that situation says a lot about the noobs the mm system keeps putting me with The fact you just said this too... do you even understand this hero? Thank god there were 2 other posts after yours that explained it quite nicely so I didn't have to Gold on silencer is legit, 2nd position with forcestaff mek and refresher is good. Probably the best refresher of the game. edit : SK can initiate but using his ulti to initiate is really hard, you prefer to use it as a follow up behind a real initator. | ||
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On June 28 2013 11:25 sacrilegious wrote: Just had a game as Bane, where our bot safe lane Omniknight and Silencer lost horribly to a Viper and Disruptor. Both feed early on going 0-3 or so the first 10 minutes. The game was AR and we only had 2 carries, a sniper (mid) and silencer. I knew we'd be screwed if Silencer didn't become a carry because their Viper was already fed, and they had an AM who literally free farmed because myself and Lich teammate couldn't do anything while Treant kept healing AM. So on top of feeding early on, Silencer does the following that makes me just facepalm... pulls creeps while Omniknight is solo'ing and dying, and does not even put a single point in Glaives until level 10. The amount of INT he could have stolen from about 4 kills during our teamfights in between that time would have put him back in the game, but nope stuck to maxing CotS after last word. Only items through the first 40 minutes were treads and aghanims (yes he rushed aghanims while feeding badly). Game went on and we made it close, but only because AM didn't push because Treant trolled. Eventually lost, bitched that Silencer some more for wasting my time. I swear to god if I wasn't out of reports I would have abused the crap out of that system and reported him with the bias knowing he was horrible and messed up my game right from the start. Oh yea that was like my 7th loss in a row in pubs http://dotabuff.com/matches/229726066 Anyone else find the hypocrisy here funny? You blame your bottom lane, a disadvantageous lane for losing, while you and Lich, who should have had a field day vs AM / Treant couldn't stop AM from farming. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
Don't play initiator -> team doesn't initiate (Void on your team -> you initiate perfectly, rest of team backs you up, void drops sphere on your entire team and like 2 enemy heroes) (same for naga and siren call) | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
Had a PL that asked "what item should I get" "manta or heart" and then went and bought crystalis. "crit is worthless on PL dude" "ok" finishes the Daedelus anyhow... A Magnus that went boots -> soul ring -> Vanguard. Did I mention that he would randomly RP the air? Clinkz that got his Orchid at 40 minutes #1 Lesharc that would go 1vs5, die and then ping like mad w/"Well Played!"x20 consistently the anti-qq is that Bain is an absolutely AMAZING Support and I can't believe that I've never played him before | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
On June 28 2013 21:32 Ryrmidon wrote: Anyone else find the hypocrisy here funny? You blame your bottom lane, a disadvantageous lane for losing, while you and Lich, who should have had a field day vs AM / Treant couldn't stop AM from farming. Disadvantageous because they were in safe lane? Disadvantageous because Omni can negate most of the harass taken while Silencer can potentially deal a shit ton of harass? Then again maybe you should have been in that game watching their positioning from the start. Lol apparently you also have no idea what living armor is either | ||
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On June 29 2013 00:23 sacrilegious wrote: Disadvantageous because they were in safe lane? Disadvantageous because Omni can negate most of the harass taken while Silencer can potentially deal a shit ton of harass? Then again maybe you should have been in that game watching their positioning from the start. Lol apparently you also have no idea what living armor is either Boohoo. Youre 2 ranged supports going up vs 2 melees with absolutely no kill potential or form of harass. Learn to play, theres no excuse for not murdering that lane | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
On June 29 2013 01:26 Ryrmidon wrote: Boohoo. Youre 2 ranged supports going up vs 2 melees with absolutely no kill potential or form of harass. Learn to play, theres no excuse for not murdering that lane You're trolling me right? Have you ever even played against Treant lately, let alone one that living armors himself and has stout shield? Do you also believe Bane has an endless mana supply, and has an awesome long range attack to harass like Lina does? But whatever you believe just to make yourself sound right I suggest you read up on some threads and discussions about living armor that have popped up quite a lot around various dota forums in the last few weeks, and also see why pros have actually picked and banned treant with higher frequency, before you give me crap about auto winning a lane that has Treant to negate most of the harass... | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:09 sacrilegious wrote: You're trolling me right? Have you ever even played against Treant lately, let alone one that living armors himself and has stout shield? Do you also believe Bane has an endless mana supply, and has an awesome long range attack to harass like Lina does? But whatever you believe just to make yourself sound right I suggest you read up on some threads and discussions about living armor that have popped up quite a lot around various dota forums in the last few weeks, and also see why pros have actually picked and banned treant with higher frequency, before you give me crap about auto winning a lane that has Treant to negate most of the harass... Don't abuse the system to report ppl for having a bad game. Viper disruptor lane isn't much easier for omni silencer than tree/am lane for your heroes imo (doesnt excuse them mass feeding). + a safe-lane in a pubs doesn't mean all that much if there aren't many ganks (well safety is closer still). I also don't feel that AM shoulda free-farmed vs your lane even with living armor, but it does make it much harder to push him out. Anyway hope your lose streak ends, but "abusing the crap out of report system" is lame. Im sure you had similarly shitty games. which brings me nicely into my qq. Playing with friends. Get medusa -> sweet I can learn to ancient farm on dire, they dont mind. Somehow manage to misclick and put lvl 1 in .... stats. After taking a few minutes to figure out wtf happened, i finally have to go leach exp till lvl 2 from bot lane=/ Time was wasted, stacks were missed. Doesn't end here. For some reason I had it in my head that it can be done easily without a ward if u cut down enough trees. Nope, failed miserably until i got that ward. Youtubed that shit and at least I did learn towards the end how to do it right.. Genius of me not to do that from the start | ||
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:09 sacrilegious wrote: You're trolling me right? Have you ever even played against Treant lately, let alone one that living armors himself and has stout shield? Do you also believe Bane has an endless mana supply, and has an awesome long range attack to harass like Lina does? But whatever you believe just to make yourself sound right I suggest you read up on some threads and discussions about living armor that have popped up quite a lot around various dota forums in the last few weeks, and also see why pros have actually picked and banned treant with higher frequency, before you give me crap about auto winning a lane that has Treant to negate most of the harass... Lol learn how to play Misplay your lane, look for excuses, relieve yourself of any responsibilty, and bitch out your teammates because you think they didnt play well. You sound like an amazing person to have on a team | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Unrelated QQ] + How come when I have a NP on my team he's a mentally handicapped completely afk in the jungle level 5 at 9 minutes and 0-0-0 at 15 minutes kind of guy, but when I'm against one he is 1-0-3 at 7 minutes already level 7 and a huge global presence? T_T | ||
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Vod.kaholic
United States1052 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:20 nojok wrote: 12 min dagger + manaboots on offlane support ES lol Lol that's amazing, belongs in the "good moments of DotA" thread. EDIT: Self-QQ I spectated a pub game of Furion, saw him do a pseudo-cliff-jungling build where he starts with 1 level of trees, takes the radiant easy camp while stacking the southern hard camp, clears another medium/hard camp, then TPs to the cliff to kill the double stack while maxing TP for global ganking support. It seemed to work for him, but the first time I tried it, my double stacked camp had the three ranged troll guys who apparently never missed shooting uphill, and I had no mana to summon treants for a while. I almost died, it was really embarrassing and slowed me down like mad. | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:37 iokke wrote: Don't abuse the system to report ppl for having a bad game. Viper disruptor lane isn't much easier for omni silencer than tree/am lane for your heroes imo (doesnt excuse them mass feeding). + a safe-lane in a pubs doesn't mean all that much if there aren't many ganks (well safety is closer still). I also don't feel that AM shoulda free-farmed vs your lane even with living armor, but it does make it much harder to push him out. Anyway hope your lose streak ends, but "abusing the crap out of report system" is lame. Im sure you had similarly shitty games. Actually I've been quite vocal about the report system in the past including its abuse for non-communicative purposes, on both playdota.com and dev.dota2.com. I've also asked for Valve to make better ways to improve the mm system and provide better knowledge about playing the game fundamentally (which include buying wards, supports not contesting last hits with your carry, creep pulling, and updating their item builds for almost all their heroes especially with crappy vanguard). They refuse to do it at this point, while leaving the report system open up for abuse. I've resisted the temptation to report with bias, but game after game despite keeping the search range down while searching for a game, it just takes 1-2 allies and bad early game from them to ruin trying to play the game in its entirety. Multiply that by 6-7 games in a row, then ask what difference is it between providing me with a bad gaming experience where someone is vocally or chat abusing me versus not even having some common sense (as I listed above) in this game and feeding 3-4 deaths the first 10 minutes of the game? On June 29 2013 02:52 Ryrmidon wrote: Lol learn how to play Misplay your lane, look for excuses, relieve yourself of any responsibilty, and bitch out your teammates because you think they didnt play well. You sound like an amazing person to have on a team I guess it's pointless to have a discussion about any detailed aspect of the heroes, their skills, and the situations when I can see you providing awesome informative responses. Axe says: A good day to you sir! | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On June 29 2013 03:14 sacrilegious wrote: Actually I've been quite vocal about the report system in the past including its abuse for non-communicative purposes, on both playdota.com and dev.dota2.com. I've also asked for Valve to make better ways to improve the mm system and provide better knowledge about playing the game fundamentally (which include buying wards, supports not contesting last hits with your carry, creep pulling, and updating their item builds for almost all their heroes especially with crappy vanguard). They refuse to do it at this point, while leaving the report system open up for abuse. I've resisted the temptation to report with bias, but game after game despite keeping the search range down while searching for a game, it just takes 1-2 allies and bad early game from them to ruin trying to play the game in its entirety. Multiply that by 6-7 games in a row, then ask what difference is it between providing me with a bad gaming experience where someone is vocally or chat abusing me versus not even having some common sense (as I listed above) in this game and feeding 3-4 deaths the first 10 minutes of the game? I guess it's pointless to have a discussion about any detailed aspect of the heroes, their skills, and the situations when I can see you providing awesome informative responses. Axe says: A good day to you sir! Well what do you want. 2 heroes with good range, enfeeble, consume, ice blast.... vs 2 melee heroes who have no skill that lets them harass and absolutely zero kill potential. If you didn't have a field day in your lane you're bad and you misplayed your lane, there's no excuse. Your argument is basically "living armor, look it up bro". Living armor shouldn't be enough to let antimage farm comfortably in that lane, and if he did then you should have played better. Also the MM system generally does a good matching you with players of your skill. Obviously you'll get an exception every now and then but in general it's not nearly as bad as people say it is. If you're getting queued up with certain players, there's a reason. If you think their fundamentals suck then they're probably doing well enough in another category to be queued in your games. If you're actually as superior to them as you think you are then you won't get matched vs players of that level for long. | ||
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