EPTThere's a ton of people that try to support, but they REALLY fail to understand the concept. You have to pressure the opponents so your carry can farm - if it's a solo you have to try and deny them exp too. Just because you can pull DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD! If your laning partner can handle his own or he's already fighting under the tower then yes, you can do it. If the lane is pushed and he's already getting harassed THEN HOW IS HIS SUPPORT LEAVING HIM GONNA HELP FOR SHIT? argh ...
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Testuser
6469 Posts
There's a ton of people that try to support, but they REALLY fail to understand the concept. You have to pressure the opponents so your carry can farm - if it's a solo you have to try and deny them exp too. Just because you can pull DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD! If your laning partner can handle his own or he's already fighting under the tower then yes, you can do it. If the lane is pushed and he's already getting harassed THEN HOW IS HIS SUPPORT LEAVING HIM GONNA HELP FOR SHIT? argh ... | ||
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
On June 25 2013 10:01 Testuser wrote: How can it be so hard to support? There's a ton of people that try to support, but they REALLY fail to understand the concept. You have to pressure the opponents so your carry can farm - if it's a solo you have to try and deny them exp too. Just because you can pull DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD! If your laning partner can handle his own or he's already fighting under the tower then yes, you can do it. If the lane is pushed and he's already getting harassed THEN HOW IS HIS SUPPORT LEAVING HIM GONNA HELP FOR SHIT? argh ... Monkey see, monkey does. Most people see this is professional games and think they should do it too. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
In the end it depends, as always, but even in a hard lane you cannot completelly disregard the XP advantage pulling gives you. | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
My QQ Spectre, Venge, Leshrac defensive trilane against DS-Razor. 3-2 situation. We can get rid of them easily right? No!! Leshrac doesn't give split earth.(W/E build) And tries to push the lane. Steals my (spectre) farm with lightning. | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
Game 1: We're behind, but we can come back. I ask the supports to buy some wards to help that (because they hadn't bought any all game) but Treant decides 'we lost' and just buys courier after courier. Well he got an abandon for sitting in the fountain too long, so that's something. Game 2: Me as CM and Puck top lane dire against a solo BM. I get some early sentries, but Puck is away from lane so often for no reason that BM can just free farm and dive on me. No idea what Puck was doing, he had a bottle but surely it's too far to go for runes from top lane? I was at level 5 when he was at level 3..... Anyway BM snowballs, we lose. Game 3: All random. Skeleton King goes jungle. Void is solo and is getting shut down hard by two stunning heroes. He asks for help. We tell SK to go jungle closer to void. We tell SK to go help Void. He says "no". I don't get this mentality. Why do you not want to help your team? General: When people say 'we lost'. Seems to be happening so often these days. Even at like 15 minutes in. So annoying. | ||
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Chrian
United States1472 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On June 25 2013 11:30 Chrian wrote: Jesus fucking fuck I hate furion so fucking much. I would just like to say that this is the best QQ I have seen for days in here! | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
On June 25 2013 11:30 Chrian wrote: Jesus fucking fuck I hate furion so fucking much. I know ur feel bro. Allied furions build midas as first item at 18 minutes and proceed to try gank anyways. Enemy furions seem to not exist in the game until 30 minutes in where they have midas deso mjollnir shadowblade and are trollfacing your rax as your team tries to push a t2. | ||
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BoozerRip
25 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:29 Staboteur wrote: I know ur feel bro. Allied furions build midas as first item at 18 minutes and proceed to try gank anyways. Enemy furions seem to not exist in the game until 30 minutes in where they have midas deso mjollnir shadowblade and are trollfacing your rax as your team tries to push a t2. This is true of pretty much any pub jungle carry; lycan, naix, even doom. Ours die to neutrals, theirs show up before 15:00 and teamwipe repeatedly. It's just multiplied by 100x for friggin' Prophet. | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On June 25 2013 15:32 Belisarius wrote: This is true of pretty much any pub jungle carry; lycan, naix, even doom. Ours die to neutrals, theirs show up before 15:00 and teamwipe repeatedly. It's just multiplied by 100x for friggin' Prophet. not QQ but i have to say it I FUCKING LOVE PROPHET!!! onto QQ playing some IH, cap picks KOTL WD QOP BM and LS vs Veng, Rub, Weaver, OD, and DS First off we are outpicked pretty hard here Second, here are our lanes.... Qop WD and KOTL top, BM mid, LS bot we didnt win | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
On June 25 2013 11:01 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Haven't had a good game in days. Game 1: We're behind, but we can come back. I ask the supports to buy some wards to help that (because they hadn't bought any all game) but Treant decides 'we lost' and just buys courier after courier. Well he got an abandon for sitting in the fountain too long, so that's something. Game 2: Me as CM and Puck top lane dire against a solo BM. I get some early sentries, but Puck is away from lane so often for no reason that BM can just free farm and dive on me. No idea what Puck was doing, he had a bottle but surely it's too far to go for runes from top lane? I was at level 5 when he was at level 3..... Anyway BM snowballs, we lose. Game 3: All random. Skeleton King goes jungle. Void is solo and is getting shut down hard by two stunning heroes. He asks for help. We tell SK to go jungle closer to void. We tell SK to go help Void. He says "no". I don't get this mentality. Why do you not want to help your team? General: When people say 'we lost'. Seems to be happening so often these days. Even at like 15 minutes in. So annoying. This really annoys me as well. I had such a hard time in HoN when ppl thought the game was over when behind 5-10 kills and they Concede (only needing 4 votes out of 5 after 20 or so min). The game is not over until at least 1 set of raxes are down, depending on game status. AT LEAST 1 set of rax. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
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lazyitachi
1043 Posts
I told them, "In all my games with Pinoy and Indon stacks, 80- 90% are losses. I will adjust my expectation" They laughed and said that they will carry me. Proceed to lose mid solo and top 2v2. I cannot even begin to understand how consistently bad they are. Srsly Dreamz level Dunning Kruger. I always dc if i find out early that my teammates are Pinoys or Indons stacks. cant carry that nubiness :3 Am i a bad person? | ||
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Ricjames
Czech Republic1047 Posts
On June 24 2013 23:43 Jotoco wrote: - "stop fucking feeding are you dumb?" This doesn't help him stop feeding, does it? If, for a 100 games, everyone shouts this at him, and he is still playing, that is a small miracle. And if you (and other people) shouted something useful the first time, he might be better by now. Instead, why don't you say something like: - Be careful going too far out, they have a Nyx/BH/other invis hero and may gank you like this other time. - Stay together with the team, they have wards there. - Don't go out when there are enemies missing on the map. - Carry a tp and tp back to safety because they have only a few disables. - Put a few wards there and there if you want to dive further past the river. etc etc etc Are you serious ? Do you think i go around calling people dumb, before i try to communicate in a normal and kind way? Anytime you try to ask someone or tell him something politely, they don't listen. Don't you dare to give advice to anyone, he rather dies 3 times in the same stupid way and then blame you for it. He dives and feeds first time - i say: man be careful don't dive like that. He feeds second time - i say: please, stop doing that. Stay with the team and don't overexted He feeds third time - i say stop fucking feeding are you dumb? The most annoying thing is that these people don't even try. They don't say sorry, they don't explain what they planned to do. They don't try to communicate at all.... Why would i be polite to these people? Ok i can just calm down and not say anything at all.... But when i get more games like this in a row, i waste like 3 hours with complete retards, it is really hard to stay calm especially when all you want is 1 game with people who actually use brain and have some manners to communicate with the team. | ||
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Alexc26
United Kingdom222 Posts
4-5 minutes in, our team is doing well, me and Sven in the top lane end up getting 3 kills, meanwhile Elder Titan gets killed once, just once, down in bottom, he then DC's, couple of minutes later Bloodseeker starts complaining to Elder Titan and asking why he isn't helping, he then realises Elder Titan DC'd and so BS himself decides to leave. Sniper then sees two have left so then he goes himself. So just me, my mate, v 5, we decide to keep playing and end up trying to control the afk heroes, lucky for us their Magnus and Shadow Shaman leave, sadly though their other team had quite a bit of farm and managed to win in the end with Spirit Breaker buying a rapier to finish it all off. We did manage to take I think all their Tier 1 and 2 towers though, just wish people wouldn't leave so quickly, I'd understand it towards the end of the game out of rage, but after one death like 5 minutes in ? Just annoys me and ruins the game for everyone, or at least one team. | ||
Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On June 25 2013 17:20 lazyitachi wrote: Found out I was teamed with Pinoy 4 stack. I told them, "In all my games with Pinoy and Indon stacks, 80- 90% are losses. I will adjust my expectation" They laughed and said that they will carry me. Proceed to lose mid solo and top 2v2. I cannot even begin to understand how consistently bad they are. Srsly Dreamz level Dunning Kruger. I always dc if i find out early that my teammates are Pinoys or Indons stacks. cant carry that nubiness :3 Am i a bad person? ppl complaining about other pplls dunning kruger is always the best | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
#E: Just realized they even randomed. HAHA! Unlucky me :D | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
Rubick going for Treads first..PL building a dagon...I just want to punch them ingame | ||
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734pot
Australia294 Posts
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