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FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 09:11:56
March 04 2013 09:08 GMT
#7681
http://dotabuff.com/matches/139659265

Playing support and being picked out as the first in every fight as the first because you are so squishy. Weaver just randomly runs through the whole team and eats you. Pudge rather hooks the support than the carry.

Have nothing after 40 minutes except for wards, 2 bracers and healing boots, get flamed for being a "useless feeder shit" and for not supporting :-/

I never want to play support in pubs ever again. You get focused, die, none of your mates care. Flames incoming!
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 04 2013 09:22 GMT
#7682
On March 04 2013 18:08 FetTerBender wrote:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/139659265

Playing support and being picked out as the first in every fight as the first because you are so squishy. Weaver just randomly runs through the whole team and eats you. Pudge rather hooks the support than the carry.

Have nothing after 40 minutes except for wards, 2 bracers and healing boots, get flamed for being a "useless feeder shit" and for not supporting :-/

I never want to play support in pubs ever again. You get focused, die, none of your mates care. Flames incoming!

Well, CM is pretty much as squishy as support gets.

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 09:55:29
March 04 2013 09:51 GMT
#7683
On March 04 2013 18:08 FetTerBender wrote:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/139659265

Playing support and being picked out as the first in every fight as the first because you are so squishy. Weaver just randomly runs through the whole team and eats you. Pudge rather hooks the support than the carry.

Have nothing after 40 minutes except for wards, 2 bracers and healing boots, get flamed for being a "useless feeder shit" and for not supporting :-/

I never want to play support in pubs ever again. You get focused, die, none of your mates care. Flames incoming!


Judging from the scorescreen looks like you did fine, especially considering the fact that you most probably get picked off first in team fights so those assist counts compensate your overall performance (to some certain extend). But i'd say maybe you made some mistakes of your positioning but then you played CM, we all have been there xD

And you know who is the hardest support to master in DotA (imo)? CM. One mistake and you are dead. And the next thing you know you are feeding the opponent team.


Pad on your back bro.

I on the other hand has decided to stop completely on playing support since yesterday. I am done with supporting xD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 10:08:02
March 04 2013 10:07 GMT
#7684
If support, I pick keeper of the light :D, and also sometimes wispuuuu. Come across some people who dont even know how wisp works..They got scared when I tethered them (thought it was enemy spell), or was wondering how they tp'd to another lane place and back. so makes for some lol moments atleast.
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
March 04 2013 10:34 GMT
#7685
or pick support that can go carry mode if needed like Veno, Venge or Sand King.
Put quote here for readability
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
March 04 2013 11:28 GMT
#7686
On March 04 2013 19:34 sandyph wrote:
or pick support that can go carry mode if needed like Veno, Venge or Sand King.


or pick carry that can support, if other carry is good, you can just support! tada!
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
March 04 2013 12:10 GMT
#7687
or just position yourself better and hang far away in the back so you dont get picked off?
1-17 is a bad performance, CM or not
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
March 04 2013 12:12 GMT
#7688
On March 04 2013 20:28 yrt123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 19:34 sandyph wrote:
or pick support that can go carry mode if needed like Veno, Venge or Sand King.


or pick carry that can support, if other carry is good, you can just support! tada!

support potm... come get your free smokes! Funny how most pubs don't seem to know smoke exists.

I have a smurf I use to play with people I know that are not that good, so the win rate on that account is quite high. Then last night I queued with someone who was actually good and ended up in a strange game. Enemy Lina + CM do a great job roaming, getting kills and shutting down our mid, and once the first night hits ITS NIGHT STALKER TIME BABY! We get torn to pieces, only managing to turtle since I play KotL so good luck pushing T3 no matter how ahead you are.

Meanwhile we have a Void. 12 min Midas followed by a 30-ish min Bfury. It is ok though, we got a Mag and a good RP -> Chrono + Illuminate is all we need to win fights. Except the Void is straight up bad. Mag gets a 5 man RP, but Void stands on the edge doing nothing with full health and mana. We turtle for 7-8 more minutes, Mag gets a good 4-man RP and this time Void is on the ball... except the enemy Windrunner shackles just as someone was teleporting in and latches both that guy and the Void. Game Over!

Why was the game strange? Because it was actually enjoyable. Knowing you got a Mag and better lategame really helps keep morale up.
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
March 04 2013 12:56 GMT
#7689
On March 04 2013 19:34 sandyph wrote:
or pick support that can go carry mode if needed like Veno, Venge or Sand King.


Veno can carry?

Warlock is a beastly carry.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#7690
Playing support is not an excuse to feed.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
March 04 2013 13:24 GMT
#7691
On March 03 2013 08:37 Nixer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't like it when people blame their teammates, ironically.
Please, find something better to do than whining like a fucking kid, grow up.
If you think somebody made a mistake, do it in a proper manner or don't do it at all.
Everybody makes mistakes, there's no reason to act pretentious over a mistake or misplay somebody did in the game for the whole duration of the fucking game, you're not only wasting your time but you're ruining it for everybody else.

I just don't get it, perhaps it's just simple human nature that we tend to look down on others while praising ourselves as higher beings, as if we never do anything wrong or something. But I think we're better than that, alas perhaps we are not.
I guess I just dream of something unreachable, it's simply impossible to get along with a decent amount of people.
Fuck man.. I find this quite ironic actually..

That's what truly pisses me off the most, call it nonsensical if you want but that's what I truly think.
Just sayin'.


Nixer, you have to consider the following fact. You can't be polite and manner when you are trying to handle a complete idiot. You can either shut up and don't bother (high road) or you can whine (easier).
For instance a player picks support, which is cool and all. When you ask him politely to buy a courrier, his answer is: "Fuck off you buy it" or in better case: "Sorry i spent all my money". Or when you ask a support to get wards, so we don't get constatly ganked or we can actually kill that brood, bounty or even escaping pl. No, they just don't buy it cause they need more important items which helps them get 1 kill while our whole team is getting owned cause of no support.
I am usually polite and manner, but Dota is just too much to handle in such a way sometimes.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
March 04 2013 13:48 GMT
#7692
LD goes double midas and uses that income to finish off his Basher, Vlads - late game build. I'm in awe, since our team did a decent job of giving us a strong early game allowing him to easily transition from the double midas. When confronted he says to us, "no support, and I can 1v1 against anyone on their team." He proceeds to just say "haha you are a morron" when I hit him with a wall of text about why if you are going to acceleration with a HoM, don't go early to mid-game items. It defeats the purpose.
Never make a hydralisk.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
March 04 2013 14:45 GMT
#7693
holy shit i hate this matchmaking man, i fucking loathe it so fucking much
im seriously considering starting to play on USE only again, holy fuck why is the MM giving me always complete retards WHY

DS GET AGHANIMS WTH
the only support on the entire team
the guy who shut down their anti mage early game
the only one who bought wards
the only one who begged for gem that he had to buy himself only to have the idiot doom lose it in the next fight
the guy who couldnt even come CLOSE to the jungle because 4 morons were farming it for their stupid shitty useless items all game long
and even if he could he would have the rest of the team just stroll by and steal the farm
the first one to get focused first in teamfights


i loathe this matchmaking man, i want to murder the person who fucking designed and coded that shit
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 04 2013 14:51 GMT
#7694
On March 04 2013 23:45 SKYFISH_ wrote:
holy shit i hate this matchmaking man, i fucking loathe it so fucking much
im seriously considering starting to play on USE only again, holy fuck why is the MM giving me always complete retards WHY

DS GET AGHANIMS WTH
the only support on the entire team
the guy who shut down their anti mage early game
the only one who bought wards
the only one who begged for gem that he had to buy himself only to have the idiot doom lose it in the next fight
the guy who couldnt even come CLOSE to the jungle because 4 morons were farming it for their stupid shitty useless items all game long
and even if he could he would have the rest of the team just stroll by and steal the farm
the first one to get focused first in teamfights


i loathe this matchmaking man, i want to murder the person who fucking designed and coded that shit

Am I the only one that always looks for one or two people to play with from teamliquid? My mm experience is pretty good.
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
March 04 2013 15:06 GMT
#7695
'I gank bot'. Front tp in their face. Enemy hero retreats. 'Ganker' sticks around for 5 minutes. Whyyyyyyyyyy
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
March 04 2013 15:07 GMT
#7696
On March 04 2013 22:24 Ricjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 08:37 Nixer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't like it when people blame their teammates, ironically.
Please, find something better to do than whining like a fucking kid, grow up.
If you think somebody made a mistake, do it in a proper manner or don't do it at all.
Everybody makes mistakes, there's no reason to act pretentious over a mistake or misplay somebody did in the game for the whole duration of the fucking game, you're not only wasting your time but you're ruining it for everybody else.

I just don't get it, perhaps it's just simple human nature that we tend to look down on others while praising ourselves as higher beings, as if we never do anything wrong or something. But I think we're better than that, alas perhaps we are not.
I guess I just dream of something unreachable, it's simply impossible to get along with a decent amount of people.
Fuck man.. I find this quite ironic actually..

That's what truly pisses me off the most, call it nonsensical if you want but that's what I truly think.
Just sayin'.


Nixer, you have to consider the following fact. You can't be polite and manner when you are trying to handle a complete idiot. You can either shut up and don't bother (high road) or you can whine (easier).
For instance a player picks support, which is cool and all. When you ask him politely to buy a courrier, his answer is: "Fuck off you buy it" or in better case: "Sorry i spent all my money". Or when you ask a support to get wards, so we don't get constatly ganked or we can actually kill that brood, bounty or even escaping pl. No, they just don't buy it cause they need more important items which helps them get 1 kill while our whole team is getting owned cause of no support.
I am usually polite and manner, but Dota is just too much to handle in such a way sometimes.


I think what Nixer is missing is that there's a difference between "making a mistake" and "being an idiot".

A mistake is accidentally nuking a creep rather than the enemy hero who is running away. A mistake is doing like I did the other day and accidentally dropping both of your salves on yourself rather than on the Riki you're trying to heal (seriously man...don't stand so close and stand still for half a second will you?). A mistake is missing a Light Strike Array or Sunstrike. A mistake is misplacing a ward or forgetting to activate your pipe. Hell, a big mistake but still a mistake is accidentally hitting your own teammates with Chronosphere.

Getting Spectre and buying no items because you want a fast ring of health is not a mistake. Building half a Vanguard into Vlad's on Antimage, totally skipping Battlefury, despite your allies suggesting a fast battlefury being a much better build-up is not a mistake. Competing with your hard carry for last hits and autoattacking the lane despite said carry asking you to please stop, at least stop the autoattacking, is not a mistake. A Warlock going 0-6-2 plus Brewmaster going 0-10-1 despite actually BEGGING them as Antimage to just stop feeding to give me a chance to outcarry them is not a mistake. These are all displays of wilful ignorance.

Everyone screws up in games, thats a given even at high levels of play. But what is utterly unacceptable is not learning from those screw-ups. Getting caught out of position once and dying is a mistake. Wilfully going into the opposing jungle half a dozen times in a row as a 4 whilst your Phantom Lancer is farming your own jungle and getting destroyed over and over, heavily feeding the other team, is NOT a mistake.


On March 04 2013 23:51 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 23:45 SKYFISH_ wrote:
holy shit i hate this matchmaking man, i fucking loathe it so fucking much
im seriously considering starting to play on USE only again, holy fuck why is the MM giving me always complete retards WHY

DS GET AGHANIMS WTH
the only support on the entire team
the guy who shut down their anti mage early game
the only one who bought wards
the only one who begged for gem that he had to buy himself only to have the idiot doom lose it in the next fight
the guy who couldnt even come CLOSE to the jungle because 4 morons were farming it for their stupid shitty useless items all game long
and even if he could he would have the rest of the team just stroll by and steal the farm
the first one to get focused first in teamfights


i loathe this matchmaking man, i want to murder the person who fucking designed and coded that shit

Am I the only one that always looks for one or two people to play with from teamliquid? My mm experience is pretty good.


If you've never solo queued for any length of time you have no idea of the true depths of hell that is matchmaking.

So yeah, of course your experience is good. You've got a buddy to pubstomp with. Must be nice.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 16:23:12
March 04 2013 15:32 GMT
#7697
On March 04 2013 23:51 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 23:45 SKYFISH_ wrote:
holy shit i hate this matchmaking man, i fucking loathe it so fucking much
im seriously considering starting to play on USE only again, holy fuck why is the MM giving me always complete retards WHY

DS GET AGHANIMS WTH
the only support on the entire team
the guy who shut down their anti mage early game
the only one who bought wards
the only one who begged for gem that he had to buy himself only to have the idiot doom lose it in the next fight
the guy who couldnt even come CLOSE to the jungle because 4 morons were farming it for their stupid shitty useless items all game long
and even if he could he would have the rest of the team just stroll by and steal the farm
the first one to get focused first in teamfights


i loathe this matchmaking man, i want to murder the person who fucking designed and coded that shit

Am I the only one that always looks for one or two people to play with from teamliquid? My mm experience is pretty good.


i suppose this is a solution....next game was a 1-14 kotl with a dagon and 1-8 or 9 tinker who fed pudge 3 kills mid and got bots around 30ish minutes
bots and a bottle, thats what he had
he got a null talisman around 40 minutes as well

i dunno....fuck it, im off to us east servers, the game is literally unplayable if you solo queue on eu.
no idea what the fuck happened
mb MM changes
mb a lot of new people to the game?
its been abysmal for the last couple of days, at least for me

edit- nop, same shit.
nicer people, but still
vanguard bat, doom bringer with zero farm
MEANWHILE ON THE ENEMY TEAM


In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
March 04 2013 19:56 GMT
#7698
I am not going to lie, I have played SF 50% of the time in my last 60 games, and my record is 12-24. I have improved so much with my SF since starting out 1-8, but man people are making it so hard to win since I got knocked down to normal bracket during the spree. But I can't stop playing him, he is just way too much fun. I dunno, maybe this doesn't count as QQ since I am still having a lot of fun, I would just like to be winning more.
I'm a Crab made of men.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 20:30:01
March 04 2013 20:03 GMT
#7699
This game I'm in...man.

Three words:
Treads on Tinker

Please...just please... :'(


Edit: LPQ so worth it. I was NOT finishing that bloody game. -_-

Guess I'm going to HAVE to go along with the way SilverStar does it. Because the basic knowledge of the people playing these games is absolutely disgusting. Just flat out unacceptable.

I'm hardly a great player. But I don't get Treads on Tinker and I generally manage to avoid feeding the opposition NINE on Luna.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
March 04 2013 20:46 GMT
#7700
Tryhards in public games. I mean, really?
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