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On February 06 2013 15:50 TheEmulator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 15:46 Firebolt145 wrote:On February 06 2013 14:44 TheEmulator wrote:So after today I learned that the only hero worth playing is SF. Literally the only two games I won today were with him  This is quite the opposite of my own experience. You just need to practice with him, it takes a while to get good with SF. I started out with SF having a record of like 4-10, or maybe 3-10; something around that area of bad. But once I figured him out, and learned to actually hit razes, my record is now 17-15 with him. I honestly feel like he is my best hero atm.
dota_range_display 700 is pretty good on SF
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fuck Sf. anyone playing him below a high mmr is a dick. my reasoning is that U WONT HAVE ANY SUPPORT and therefore ur pub game will suck balls while u moan about having no courier at 20 mins and no wards ever. i cannot rage enough: pick supports! it is the only way to really carry ur team of selfish, macho "teammates" to a win and it is the most satifying feeling going 20-0-20 with disruptor. trust me!
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"Play support so that I can play carry"
I'm on to you
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sf razes feel weird, like less aoe/range than in dota1
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My teams always have support players
Either I do it, or a teammate or two does,
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batrider in my team
0 point in 1st skill 1/10 after 15 mins
hard
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On February 06 2013 18:55 Erasme wrote:
sf razes feel weird, like less aoe/range than in dota1
I think like other range based skill, its calculated from the centre of the hero instead of from the outer model (DotA1)
So they are 24 range less
there's a thread on this bug in the dev forum
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On February 06 2013 19:41 sandyph wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 18:55 Erasme wrote:
sf razes feel weird, like less aoe/range than in dota1 I think like other range based skill, its calculated from the centre of the hero instead of from the outer model (DotA1) So they are 24 range less there's a thread on this bug in the dev forum
Ohhhhhhh. So which is the bug? Centre or outer?
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The bug is that dota 2 spells are calculated from the center of the model, while they should be calculated from the edge of the model.
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I had pc problems for almost 2 weeks, got my new graphics card and everything is fine again. Play a game of dota.
I random storm spirit in the first seconds. Second last pick is slardar although we have 3 carries/semicarries already and last PICK is INVOKER who then proceeds to go mid telling me he is a mid hero.
After the first few waves i went bot (I was pretty pissed already) because I wanted to win. 10 min in: still no courier, no wards ever and I get almost no last hits and exp. I couldnt stand waiting another 30 min being useless and finally losing if the enemy doesnt fuck up so bad it has never been seen before.
I may not have the highest mmr but i got in high pool (and so was this game) a few weeks ago and my normal pool games were still not this bad.
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On February 06 2013 20:56 Darack wrote:
I had pc problems for almost 2 weeks, got my new graphics card and everything is fine again. Play a game of dota.
I random storm spirit in the first seconds. Second last pick is slardar although we have 3 carries/semicarries already and last PICK is INVOKER who then proceeds to go mid telling me he is a mid hero.
After the first few waves i went bot (I was pretty pissed already) because I wanted to win. 10 min in: still no courier, no wards ever and I get almost no last hits and exp. I couldnt stand waiting another 30 min being useless and finally losing if the enemy doesnt fuck up so bad it has never been seen before.
I may not have the highest mmr but i got in high pool (and so was this game) a few weeks ago and my normal pool games were still not this bad.
I'm in high pool myself. I guess we can expect many games like this when people say even very high games can turn out like this >.>
Though with 0 supports you can't rely on anyone else to buy courier with everyone being self entitled 'I'm not support I don't buy courier'
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On February 06 2013 20:56 Darack wrote:
I had pc problems for almost 2 weeks, got my new graphics card and everything is fine again. Play a game of dota.
I random storm spirit in the first seconds. Second last pick is slardar although we have 3 carries/semicarries already and last PICK is INVOKER who then proceeds to go mid telling me he is a mid hero.
After the first few waves i went bot (I was pretty pissed already) because I wanted to win. 10 min in: still no courier, no wards ever and I get almost no last hits and exp. I couldnt stand waiting another 30 min being useless and finally losing if the enemy doesnt fuck up so bad it has never been seen before.
I may not have the highest mmr but i got in high pool (and so was this game) a few weeks ago and my normal pool games were still not this bad.
Don't random if you care about winning. Play support even if you're not a support hero if you care about winning.
This is true even if you're on page 1 for live games, a lot of people (myself included sometimes) will just pick whatever they feel like and don't really give a shit if they lose or not.
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We had a game yesterday with 4 randoms:
Lich, Bane, Treant and a Disruptor. Our last guy picks--- Storm.
Apart from having enough randoms and enough support to play a hard carry with good support, imho we had enough magic damage to make it obvious that storm was not a no. 1 choice.
The enemies are KotL, Sven, Luna, Lycan and Medusa. We miss the opportunity to push their lanes in early enough and lose after ~40 minutes to mass BKB with stats of 40-20 in our favor. FML, that was frustrating...
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people who pick sf and then level raze at 1. seriously what the fuck.
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Oh th feeling to start a -RD and have my pc dc, no one pauses and i end up with wisp. My team mates are Disruptor, lina, Stealth Assasin and a venge. They have Void and an AM, tree, enig and one more. A fairly balanced kind of team compared to us 4 support and 1 carry. From the start I had this stupid feeling this is just bad. Even though I tried get ganks up to open room and kills for S.A things never worked and snowballed to a GG. S.A also was bad farmer / killer (my opinion) .
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On February 06 2013 22:30 FetTerBender wrote:
We had a game yesterday with 4 randoms:
Lich, Bane, Treant and a Disruptor. Our last guy picks--- Storm.
Apart from having enough randoms and enough support to play a hard carry with good support, imho we had enough magic damage to make it obvious that storm was not a no. 1 choice.
The enemies are KotL, Sven, Luna, Lycan and Medusa. We miss the opportunity to push their lanes in early enough and lose after ~40 minutes to mass BKB with stats of 40-20 in our favor. FML, that was frustrating...
Hate it when that happens. When enemy lineup screams "end the game early" and your teammates just herp derp farm and not push even though the heroes they play don't stand a chance to outcarry their heroes late game.
That being said, if you guys couldn't get yourselves together and push when you lead in kills 40-20, then it wouldn't have mattered if your last guy picked Storm or not.
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On February 07 2013 01:01 don_kyuhote wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 22:30 FetTerBender wrote:
We had a game yesterday with 4 randoms:
Lich, Bane, Treant and a Disruptor. Our last guy picks--- Storm.
Apart from having enough randoms and enough support to play a hard carry with good support, imho we had enough magic damage to make it obvious that storm was not a no. 1 choice.
The enemies are KotL, Sven, Luna, Lycan and Medusa. We miss the opportunity to push their lanes in early enough and lose after ~40 minutes to mass BKB with stats of 40-20 in our favor. FML, that was frustrating... Hate it when that happens. When enemy lineup screams "end the game early" and your teammates just herp derp farm and not push even though the heroes they play don't stand a chance to outcarry their heroes late game. That being said, if you guys couldn't get yourselves together and push when you lead in kills 40-20, then it wouldn't have mattered if your last guy picked Storm or not.
I also hate it in this situation. When they push way too early. So it becomes a desperation attempt rather than a controlled push.
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On February 06 2013 22:53 PassiveAce wrote:
people who pick sf and then level raze at 1. seriously what the fuck.
N0tail's competitve matches build for SF mid was raze/bottle at level 1, into fast self-bought 2nd courier and non-stop bottle crow. He shit on kids all day long.
(Yes this was HoN, but we are talking about talented players).
No, that doesn't justify it at all in pub play, I'm aware.
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On February 07 2013 01:08 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 22:53 PassiveAce wrote:
people who pick sf and then level raze at 1. seriously what the fuck. N0tail's competitve matches build for SF mid was raze/bottle at level 1, into fast self-bought 2nd courier and non-stop bottle crow. He shit on kids all day long. (Yes this was HoN, but we are talking about talented players). No, that doesn't justify it at all in pub play, I'm aware.
That build was obviously suited for situations where he is up against a far superior lasthitter (pebbles with hatchet etc.) where it would be impossible to get lasthits if the enemy is not bad anyways.
If you are unsure about your ability to get lasthits on lvl1 this is entirely viable.
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