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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 20:22:36
February 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#6761
STOP AUTOATTACKING STOP FEEDING JUST STOP OH GOD WHY WON'T YOU STOP?



I have three wins on my first page of games at the moment. Three.

I actually said to a Lanaya in a game just now "don't autoattack" about four times when she came down to help "gank" (i.e. fail at a gank) and who stuck around to farm my lane (I was PL). She's just attacking the creeps over and over. I keep asking not to unless we're actually going to push a tower.

Response? "How many creeps do you have? I have 40". AS IF THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS TO THE CONCEPT OF LANE CONTROL! Me having crap farm (hello WD spamming stun and Kunkka with Tidebringer first lane) has nothing to do with NOT PUSHING.


Game end: 13-1 Sniper on the opponent team. I'm even in KD until they fountain dive to pick me off again. 2-6 Lanaya and a 2-6 BH on my team (Battlefury first of course).
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Pingvinen
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden78 Posts
February 05 2013 20:56 GMT
#6762
Omygod.
I was just in a game where we, ( i soloque) are facing a 5 stack. people on my team Immiediatly goe "MID OR FEED" etc.
I pick ds, for woods since i dont really wanna lane with anyone of them. game starts, ursa and axe picks.. and both goes "WOOD OR FEED".

wow. Just wow. First time i had this experience.
brobrah
Profile Joined April 2011
220 Posts
February 05 2013 21:15 GMT
#6763
I just played a game and had horrible lag. I couldn't move and my chat messages took like 1 minute to come up. I even apologized for it before I left.

My team: "Slardar, you aren't lagging, stop trolling." "Reported." "What a dumbass!"
I want to be the next Chris Loranger for SC3
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 05 2013 21:24 GMT
#6764
On February 06 2013 06:15 brobrah wrote:
I just played a game and had horrible lag. I couldn't move and my chat messages took like 1 minute to come up. I even apologized for it before I left.

My team: "Slardar, you aren't lagging, stop trolling." "Reported." "What a dumbass!"


Has happened to me. I think it's my wireless internet to be honest, but I prefer blaming telus >_>
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 23:16:48
February 05 2013 23:13 GMT
#6765
I went Enigma solo offlane and got flamed by a hotd shadow blade drow for 1. having no farm and 2. being unable to stop lifestealer + lion from freefarming.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
February 05 2013 23:51 GMT
#6766
On February 06 2013 05:56 Pingvinen wrote:
Omygod.
I was just in a game where we, ( i soloque) are facing a 5 stack. people on my team Immiediatly goe "MID OR FEED" etc.
I pick ds, for woods since i dont really wanna lane with anyone of them. game starts, ursa and axe picks.. and both goes "WOOD OR FEED".

wow. Just wow. First time i had this experience.


I genuinely LOLED.
WOOD OR FEED my newest anthem
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
February 06 2013 00:11 GMT
#6767
On February 06 2013 06:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 06:15 brobrah wrote:
I just played a game and had horrible lag. I couldn't move and my chat messages took like 1 minute to come up. I even apologized for it before I left.

My team: "Slardar, you aren't lagging, stop trolling." "Reported." "What a dumbass!"


Has happened to me. I think it's my wireless internet to be honest, but I prefer blaming telus >_>

It happens to me sometimes too, I use Telus as well. It's a shit company. On a good day I'll be running at like 130ms.
Not bad for a cat toy.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 06 2013 01:23 GMT
#6768
On a side note...is it just me or do bots feed almost as much as people in pubs tend to do sometimes? I was just playing about with some hard bots for LH practice and to work on my Meepo mechanics and I just had a Necro bot feed 20 deaths on my team.

Fortunately I was Meepo. Farmed up by jungling two camps and laning simultaneously then just pushed every lane. But still it was a hell of a lot harder than it should have been vs the opposing fed Tiny bot.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
February 06 2013 01:55 GMT
#6769
On February 06 2013 05:56 Pingvinen wrote:
Omygod.
I was just in a game where we, ( i soloque) are facing a 5 stack. people on my team Immiediatly goe "MID OR FEED" etc.
I pick ds, for woods since i dont really wanna lane with anyone of them. game starts, ursa and axe picks.. and both goes "WOOD OR FEED".

wow. Just wow. First time i had this experience.


were you playing on european servers?
if not, they could have been my friends. being 100% serious here. lol
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 03:07:42
February 06 2013 03:07 GMT
#6770
i dont know whats going on atm but every game i play just sucks.
its just so horrible to play with people who think they know something, and then you die several times because they have the worst movement/judgment/teamfight ever. (+ a report for beeing the worst player on the the team obv)

i get that so much, i play just fine and we have CLEARLY worse players then me on the team and i get called out, i dont underatnd it.

last game for example: viper mid, total failure, plays like a fucking 10game retard (has over 600wins), how is that even possible. plus an omniknight who manages to die 5 times in 9 minutes.

matchmaking is totally working....
SDMF
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 03:44:35
February 06 2013 03:44 GMT
#6771
On February 06 2013 03:22 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 02:36 HardlyNever wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:13 itsthewoo wrote:
On February 06 2013 01:15 HardlyNever wrote:
I see a lot of people suggesting PL to win otherwise unwinnable games. I'd like to also suggest mid Viper.

While he doesn't carry as hard as PL, he has a much stronger early and mid game and once fed scales well enough into the late game. I find that you can usually dominate mid because most of the players you play against in mid are terrible (with a few exceptions, and god help you if you are against silencer). Just keep harassing with his q until you can go for a kill. Some players will even be dumb enough to try to 1v1 you (they don't know how nethertoxin works apparently).

After 2 kills mid you can basically roam the map and cause ganks (get a fast shadowblade if you are doing pretty well, which you should be). Once you are a bit fed you can 2v1 or even 3v1 some of their team. I've carried multiple full negative (except for me) teams like this.

While nothing is fool proof, this is the most reliable way I've found to win a game in dota when I'm tired of losing. I've almost got my viper bar up to the full 5 bars under heroes played.

Viper. The only hero more boring than Drow.


He is pretty boring, and that is why I don't do this every game, or near every game. But eventually I hit a breaking point of fail, and need to win, so I mid viper.

I had the same problem, and started to pick Death Prophet with similar results. I have been using DrPandaPhD"s guide on TL, and so far I'm 6-1 with it, which makes my death prophet 9-2. She is a nice combination of being fun to play (high movement speed+spells+active items), and really powerful in pubs. In particular she is really good at punishing heavy carry teams because they won't be able to prevent you from pushing.
For now I will continue to play DP when I soloQ as long as I dont start losing with it :p.


the issue with Krob is that on my skill level everybody on your team thinks she's a 'support' and would be furious if you dare to take last hit not to mention going mid

as for Viper, to make it less boring I sometimes go Mek-Lothar-Orchird and pretend Im clinkz :D
Put quote here for readability
ChaZzza
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom162 Posts
February 06 2013 05:19 GMT
#6772
Please, please, please, please, please pick supports.
Not because ur bad, not because ur a little bit drunk or sleepy or new to the game, not because u played PL/huskar/drow for the past 20 games and want a break. Simply because the game needs supports like it needs team work. I value a supporting role far higher than a chump trying to steal cs. 5 carries on a team is not a team. Honestly, I have been learning to play WR and the amount of fevered ego's is staggering. Respect to good supports!
Also, those fucking russians... They're more likely to be eastern European and possibly ex-Soviet block so just call them fucking russians, it will really help ur team-play.
"We can't whine, we can't do shit, just fucking play," EE-sama
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
February 06 2013 05:33 GMT
#6773
On February 06 2013 14:19 ChaZzza wrote:
Please, please, please, please, please pick supports.
Not because ur bad, not because ur a little bit drunk or sleepy or new to the game, not because u played PL/huskar/drow for the past 20 games and want a break. Simply because the game needs supports like it needs team work. I value a supporting role far higher than a chump trying to steal cs. 5 carries on a team is not a team. Honestly, I have been learning to play WR and the amount of fevered ego's is staggering. Respect to good supports!
Also, those fucking russians... They're more likely to be eastern European and possibly ex-Soviet block so just call them fucking russians, it will really help ur team-play.


Doesnt matter if they play supports like carry, never warding, contesting with carry for last hits. Never buying detection. Why can't I have good supports when I play the carry QQ. I always support to my best ability when I am support. Feels so unfair
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
February 06 2013 05:44 GMT
#6774
So after today I learned that the only hero worth playing is SF. Literally the only two games I won today were with him
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
February 06 2013 05:54 GMT
#6775
On February 06 2013 14:19 ChaZzza wrote:
Please, please, please, please, please pick supports.
Not because ur bad, not because ur a little bit drunk or sleepy or new to the game, not because u played PL/huskar/drow for the past 20 games and want a break. Simply because the game needs supports like it needs team work. I value a supporting role far higher than a chump trying to steal cs. 5 carries on a team is not a team. Honestly, I have been learning to play WR and the amount of fevered ego's is staggering. Respect to good supports!
Also, those fucking russians... They're more likely to be eastern European and possibly ex-Soviet block so just call them fucking russians, it will really help ur team-play.


Yeah fucking supports in this game are horrible.. played a game as mid-Viper, I was the main carry, we had Lina and Tide as supports, no courier for the first 5 mins..no wards even after i asked a few times...finally Lina got wards, but after 5 mins of farming her lane, she never put them down and died to a jungle gank. I died too, respawned, bought wards and freaking warded the jungle myself, and I was explaining to Lina that you have to put them down. Her response? "I died before I had a chance to". for the rest of the game, i was the ward bitch as well as carry. If it wasn't because the other team was utterly terrible we could've easily lost.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
February 06 2013 06:10 GMT
#6776
On February 06 2013 14:54 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 14:19 ChaZzza wrote:
Please, please, please, please, please pick supports.
Not because ur bad, not because ur a little bit drunk or sleepy or new to the game, not because u played PL/huskar/drow for the past 20 games and want a break. Simply because the game needs supports like it needs team work. I value a supporting role far higher than a chump trying to steal cs. 5 carries on a team is not a team. Honestly, I have been learning to play WR and the amount of fevered ego's is staggering. Respect to good supports!
Also, those fucking russians... They're more likely to be eastern European and possibly ex-Soviet block so just call them fucking russians, it will really help ur team-play.


Yeah fucking supports in this game are horrible.. played a game as mid-Viper, I was the main carry, we had Lina and Tide as supports, no courier for the first 5 mins..no wards even after i asked a few times...finally Lina got wards, but after 5 mins of farming her lane, she never put them down and died to a jungle gank. I died too, respawned, bought wards and freaking warded the jungle myself, and I was explaining to Lina that you have to put them down. Her response? "I died before I had a chance to". for the rest of the game, i was the ward bitch as well as carry. If it wasn't because the other team was utterly terrible we could've easily lost.

Good supports are hard to come by, even in the very high bracket these days

Actually, even when playing with my friends who have decent mmr's, they still don't even know how to support properly. Although I do have a few friends who are great supports, and I see myself as a decent one too.

In solo queueing I never see supports do basic things like up the courier by 2-3 minutes, write down rosh/ult timings, carry tp's all the time to help any lane at any moment, etc. The list goes on and on
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 06 2013 06:17 GMT
#6777
How many games do I have to play in order to NOT run into leavers /disconnecters who doesn't rejoin. I've played 16 games, and I want to know when I can expect people to stay in the game despite that things aren't going so well. Losing is also a part of learning DotA. 25 games? 50 games? 100 games? So many games that I'm on International level?
EZ4ENCE
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 06:21:57
February 06 2013 06:20 GMT
#6778
On February 06 2013 15:17 WindWolf wrote:
How many games do I have to play in order to NOT run into leavers /disconnecters who doesn't rejoin. I've played 16 games, and I want to know when I can expect people to stay in the game despite that things aren't going so well. Losing is also a part of learning DotA. 25 games? 50 games? 100 games? So many games that I'm on International level?

You will always have leavers/dcers, but around 100 gams you will see less of it.

Around 100 games is when people start to take it a bit more seriously, because this is usually the point where you either get bored and quit, or continue playing. The people who continue playing generally aren't leavers
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
February 06 2013 06:46 GMT
#6779
On February 06 2013 14:44 TheEmulator wrote:
So after today I learned that the only hero worth playing is SF. Literally the only two games I won today were with him

This is quite the opposite of my own experience.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 06:50:54
February 06 2013 06:50 GMT
#6780
On February 06 2013 15:46 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 14:44 TheEmulator wrote:
So after today I learned that the only hero worth playing is SF. Literally the only two games I won today were with him

This is quite the opposite of my own experience.

You just need to practice with him, it takes a while to get good with SF. I started out with SF having a record of like 4-10, or maybe 3-10; something around that area of bad. But once I figured him out, and learned to actually hit razes, my record is now 17-15 with him. I honestly feel like he is my best hero atm.
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