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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#6741
Picks in RD are even more retarded than in AP. What's a good hero to complement a team of QoP, BH and SK? Centaur and NS obviously, what could possibly go wrong.

Centaur was afraid of fighting vs Tiny 2v1 when I tried to get the runes, but other than that he played well at least. NS had glorious 3 assists and 6 deaths.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
February 05 2013 15:11 GMT
#6742
Honestly. Can any russian person point out their country on the map? If so, why are they ALL on the EU west and US east servers. Seriously. Bloodseeker just following me round jungle stealing last hits and trying to get my killed. #russiandota.
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
February 05 2013 15:13 GMT
#6743
On February 05 2013 23:29 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 23:23 VelJa wrote:
HEY GUYS
Tired of Drow ? Tired of PL?

PLAY RANDOM
the only mode where every1 is equal. And forget counterpicks.
AR is the most FAIR mode in Dota2



lol no it's not. Half the time you'll get 5 supports and the enemy gets a nice spread.
Or what if they random Drow AND PL?

You can argue that everyone is equal, but it's certainly not always fair.


Yup, but this type of game is really entertaining. AND fun.
A lot of people here don't have fun anymore. They play for "real", 25 times the same hero, try hard on middle lane each game etc ... I feel really sad for them. Don't forget to have fun guys, victory is a goal (no one likes to loose), but enjoy your game is most important.

I always plays random, even on Dota1 and on all game i ever played (from AoE to HotS) /mylife
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 15:20:06
February 05 2013 15:19 GMT
#6744
Feeding CK = bad, feeding QoP = bad, no farm on carry = bad. If you know all these things you were not in my team just now.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 15:20:43
February 05 2013 15:20 GMT
#6745
Ugh...looking at my match history at the moment is just depressing.

You know what I'm thinking? All pick. Drow instapick every single game for the next thirty games. -_-
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
February 05 2013 15:24 GMT
#6746
On February 06 2013 00:20 Lightspeaker wrote:
Ugh...looking at my match history at the moment is just depressing.

You know what I'm thinking? All pick. Drow instapick every single game for the next thirty games. -_-

Report.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 05 2013 15:37 GMT
#6747
On February 06 2013 00:20 Lightspeaker wrote:
Ugh...looking at my match history at the moment is just depressing.

You know what I'm thinking? All pick. Drow instapick every single game for the next thirty games. -_-

Man up and play pugna for 30 games.
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
February 05 2013 16:00 GMT
#6748
On February 06 2013 00:37 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 00:20 Lightspeaker wrote:
Ugh...looking at my match history at the moment is just depressing.

You know what I'm thinking? All pick. Drow instapick every single game for the next thirty games. -_-

Man up and play pugna for 30 games.

PUGNA ? U're too kind sweetie

Play meepo solomidd 30 games. Liek a boss
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
February 05 2013 16:13 GMT
#6749
On February 06 2013 01:00 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 00:37 Comeh wrote:
On February 06 2013 00:20 Lightspeaker wrote:
Ugh...looking at my match history at the moment is just depressing.

You know what I'm thinking? All pick. Drow instapick every single game for the next thirty games. -_-

Man up and play pugna for 30 games.

PUGNA ? U're too kind sweetie

Play meepo solomidd 30 games. Liek a boss


30 games Wisp hardsupport. HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
February 05 2013 16:15 GMT
#6750
I see a lot of people suggesting PL to win otherwise unwinnable games. I'd like to also suggest mid Viper.

While he doesn't carry as hard as PL, he has a much stronger early and mid game and once fed scales well enough into the late game. I find that you can usually dominate mid because most of the players you play against in mid are terrible (with a few exceptions, and god help you if you are against silencer). Just keep harassing with his q until you can go for a kill. Some players will even be dumb enough to try to 1v1 you (they don't know how nethertoxin works apparently).

After 2 kills mid you can basically roam the map and cause ganks (get a fast shadowblade if you are doing pretty well, which you should be). Once you are a bit fed you can 2v1 or even 3v1 some of their team. I've carried multiple full negative (except for me) teams like this.

While nothing is fool proof, this is the most reliable way I've found to win a game in dota when I'm tired of losing. I've almost got my viper bar up to the full 5 bars under heroes played.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
February 05 2013 17:03 GMT
#6751
I've found you can do that with veno at lower level games, too (same with slither in HoN). People don't quite understand how DOTs work.
But then I'm terrible, so make of that what you will.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
itsthewoo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States260 Posts
February 05 2013 17:13 GMT
#6752
On February 06 2013 01:15 HardlyNever wrote:
I see a lot of people suggesting PL to win otherwise unwinnable games. I'd like to also suggest mid Viper.

While he doesn't carry as hard as PL, he has a much stronger early and mid game and once fed scales well enough into the late game. I find that you can usually dominate mid because most of the players you play against in mid are terrible (with a few exceptions, and god help you if you are against silencer). Just keep harassing with his q until you can go for a kill. Some players will even be dumb enough to try to 1v1 you (they don't know how nethertoxin works apparently).

After 2 kills mid you can basically roam the map and cause ganks (get a fast shadowblade if you are doing pretty well, which you should be). Once you are a bit fed you can 2v1 or even 3v1 some of their team. I've carried multiple full negative (except for me) teams like this.

While nothing is fool proof, this is the most reliable way I've found to win a game in dota when I'm tired of losing. I've almost got my viper bar up to the full 5 bars under heroes played.

Viper. The only hero more boring than Drow.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
February 05 2013 17:36 GMT
#6753
On February 06 2013 02:13 itsthewoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 01:15 HardlyNever wrote:
I see a lot of people suggesting PL to win otherwise unwinnable games. I'd like to also suggest mid Viper.

While he doesn't carry as hard as PL, he has a much stronger early and mid game and once fed scales well enough into the late game. I find that you can usually dominate mid because most of the players you play against in mid are terrible (with a few exceptions, and god help you if you are against silencer). Just keep harassing with his q until you can go for a kill. Some players will even be dumb enough to try to 1v1 you (they don't know how nethertoxin works apparently).

After 2 kills mid you can basically roam the map and cause ganks (get a fast shadowblade if you are doing pretty well, which you should be). Once you are a bit fed you can 2v1 or even 3v1 some of their team. I've carried multiple full negative (except for me) teams like this.

While nothing is fool proof, this is the most reliable way I've found to win a game in dota when I'm tired of losing. I've almost got my viper bar up to the full 5 bars under heroes played.

Viper. The only hero more boring than Drow.


He is pretty boring, and that is why I don't do this every game, or near every game. But eventually I hit a breaking point of fail, and need to win, so I mid viper.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 17:55:17
February 05 2013 17:55 GMT
#6754
what. Viper is a garbage hero. Orb with cooldown until level 5 means the enemy mid can outlane you before those levels. Should you win your lane, all you can do is single-target someone with your ulti and say "fuck" when the enemy team shuts you down with /any/ kind of kiting(euls, silence, slowing yourself, drums). I laugh everytime I see a viper, and I cringe when I see a viper who won a lane. Probably because I played Viper for a week straight on dota1 a long time ago lol.


Wanna know a sure-win hero? Invoker. Seriously, it's so hilarious when you go EQ or WQ builds with him(because EW is garbage). People underestimate coldsnap, and adding mobility to your build means you are in control of the map.

Also for those complaining about 5 support on AR, try to do some lv1 ganks into lv1 pushes for a difference. Don't be stupid, if you get early game heroes then you end the game early.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
February 05 2013 18:22 GMT
#6755
On February 06 2013 02:36 HardlyNever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 02:13 itsthewoo wrote:
On February 06 2013 01:15 HardlyNever wrote:
I see a lot of people suggesting PL to win otherwise unwinnable games. I'd like to also suggest mid Viper.

While he doesn't carry as hard as PL, he has a much stronger early and mid game and once fed scales well enough into the late game. I find that you can usually dominate mid because most of the players you play against in mid are terrible (with a few exceptions, and god help you if you are against silencer). Just keep harassing with his q until you can go for a kill. Some players will even be dumb enough to try to 1v1 you (they don't know how nethertoxin works apparently).

After 2 kills mid you can basically roam the map and cause ganks (get a fast shadowblade if you are doing pretty well, which you should be). Once you are a bit fed you can 2v1 or even 3v1 some of their team. I've carried multiple full negative (except for me) teams like this.

While nothing is fool proof, this is the most reliable way I've found to win a game in dota when I'm tired of losing. I've almost got my viper bar up to the full 5 bars under heroes played.

Viper. The only hero more boring than Drow.


He is pretty boring, and that is why I don't do this every game, or near every game. But eventually I hit a breaking point of fail, and need to win, so I mid viper.

I had the same problem, and started to pick Death Prophet with similar results. I have been using DrPandaPhD"s guide on TL, and so far I'm 6-1 with it, which makes my death prophet 9-2. She is a nice combination of being fun to play (high movement speed+spells+active items), and really powerful in pubs. In particular she is really good at punishing heavy carry teams because they won't be able to prevent you from pushing.
For now I will continue to play DP when I soloQ as long as I dont start losing with it :p.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 05 2013 18:25 GMT
#6756
90% of my losses are because the enemy team has Medusa/Void/PL and the game goes for 60+ minutes. So sick and tired of that, because you know it's over after 20 minutes, but it drags on and on and on...
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 05 2013 18:37 GMT
#6757
On February 06 2013 03:25 ChrisXIV wrote:
90% of my losses are because the enemy team has Medusa/Void/PL and the game goes for 60+ minutes. So sick and tired of that, because you know it's over after 20 minutes, but it drags on and on and on...


In my experience medusa loses really hard to any other carry at 60+ minutes.

It's pretty annoying how opposed to pushing teams seem to be these days though. My team refuses to push so we lose late, and the other team refuses to push when they are up 30 kills so we have to venture out (to get XP for no abandon) then get killed and the game goes on for 20 pointless minutes of us just dying for no reason and them farming both jungles + 3 lanes + our heroes for no reason.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 05 2013 19:39 GMT
#6758
So, my team didn't play well and we had 2 leavers, one early and one later on. A bit sad that I have run into leavers or disconnecters in more or less all my games so far.

But the Wisp player in the team was nice and help me and the rest of the team!
EZ4ENCE
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 05 2013 19:42 GMT
#6759
On February 06 2013 04:39 WindWolf wrote:
So, my team didn't play well and we had 2 leavers, one early and one later on. A bit sad that I have run into leavers or disconnecters in more or less all my games so far.

But the Wisp player in the team was nice and help me and the rest of the team!


That I find to be the biggest issue with really new dota 2 games. Everybody just leaves. People who legitimately wish to learn and play real games are often stuck in weird 3v4 situations or whatever.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 05 2013 19:46 GMT
#6760
On February 06 2013 04:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 04:39 WindWolf wrote:
So, my team didn't play well and we had 2 leavers, one early and one later on. A bit sad that I have run into leavers or disconnecters in more or less all my games so far.

But the Wisp player in the team was nice and help me and the rest of the team!


That I find to be the biggest issue with really new dota 2 games. Everybody just leaves. People who legitimately wish to learn and play real games are often stuck in weird 3v4 situations or whatever.

Yeah, it's sad. I'm hoping it gets better later on. But I have won a 4v5 game where my team went something like 50-16 in kills with an early disconnect on my team
EZ4ENCE
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