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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
February 07 2013 08:45 GMT
#6821
Well if he reads that post, you won't have to worry about playing with him anymore

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Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
February 07 2013 08:50 GMT
#6822
Land about 4/5ths of your hooks. Still get bitched at every time you miss. "PRO HOOK PUDGE, NEWB".

I wasn't playing pudge but my friend was. He actually went on a 13 kill streak at one point, but our support was so bad and for some mind boggling reason another guy on my team picked Spectre when I randomed PA.

So many things wrong with people who play dota.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
February 07 2013 08:51 GMT
#6823
Dota killing friendships since the release. Well, i do have friends who flip out because of friends playing badly/worse than someone too.

I guess its pretty normal.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#6824
On February 07 2013 17:45 TheEmulator wrote:
Well if he reads that post, you won't have to worry about playing with him anymore



Well. That guy doesn't frequent TL rofl.

I found a compromise. I shall forever use a smurf to play with him. I dont give a shit whether i win or lose on that account. My focus for playing with them now is to get them to improve 1step at a time.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 07 2013 09:25 GMT
#6825
On February 07 2013 17:27 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 10:17 Mithhaike wrote:
Fuck this friend. He has no idea how to farm, no idea what items to buy no idea what skills to level.

Picks medusa. First game im like meh okay lets try. His total CS is under 100 at 40mins game end. Played absolutely no role in the game except feeding like a dog. Tries to farm with a level 1 split arrow, 3point snake 4point mana shield.
COME ON?! Medusa has low damage already and your trying to farm with a level 1 split arrow?! He's not even trying to last hit! He has it on auto attack! It's basically like playing lottery to get any sort of farm with level 1arrow 50% damage reduction ffs!

2nd game, i tell play something easy...something that has stuns and would have an impact on the game.

"Medusa is easy!" and picks her again.

If not for the fact i know him real life, i would have flamed the shit out of him for being an idiot. Learn basic heroes first before getting something that requires a lot of farm...especially when you can't rice to save your goddamn life. Goddamn idiots.


Same here. He's more a friend of a friend than a friend though. After having to play dota with him like every day for the past 2 weeks, I finally flipped last night. I was playing magnus and I was getting ganked by CM and windrunner, and I die after barely killing the CM. He immediately goes like "OMG why are you in mid???" (aside from getting ganked obviously, there was nothing wrong about being in mid, I wasn't even in a very vulnerable position), because even though he is fucking awful at the game, he believes himself to be basically pro/semi-pro level, is the kind of player who thinks "CM is the only real game mode", and that the best player (which is obviously him) is entitled to play hard carry or mid every single game, and he feels the need to have a say in fucking everything.

I had finally had enough and said something along the lines of "Shut the fuck up you stupid piece of shit. You fucking suck at this game, would you please just shut the fuck up."

Made him stay relatively quiet for the rest of the game, and I quickly left skype as soon as the game was over. Hopefully I won't have to play with him anymore, or he'll at least stop thinking he's gods gift to dota.

Damn, that must have been some akward silence is that skype convo afterwards.
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Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
February 07 2013 10:12 GMT
#6826
Rapier throws. Rapier throws fucking everywhere. Jesus fucking christ, I don't care if we're up 2 lanes of rax, you don't fucking go rapier unless you absolutely fucking have to.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
February 07 2013 10:18 GMT
#6827
On February 07 2013 18:25 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 17:27 Canas wrote:
On February 07 2013 10:17 Mithhaike wrote:
Fuck this friend. He has no idea how to farm, no idea what items to buy no idea what skills to level.

Picks medusa. First game im like meh okay lets try. His total CS is under 100 at 40mins game end. Played absolutely no role in the game except feeding like a dog. Tries to farm with a level 1 split arrow, 3point snake 4point mana shield.
COME ON?! Medusa has low damage already and your trying to farm with a level 1 split arrow?! He's not even trying to last hit! He has it on auto attack! It's basically like playing lottery to get any sort of farm with level 1arrow 50% damage reduction ffs!

2nd game, i tell play something easy...something that has stuns and would have an impact on the game.

"Medusa is easy!" and picks her again.

If not for the fact i know him real life, i would have flamed the shit out of him for being an idiot. Learn basic heroes first before getting something that requires a lot of farm...especially when you can't rice to save your goddamn life. Goddamn idiots.


Same here. He's more a friend of a friend than a friend though. After having to play dota with him like every day for the past 2 weeks, I finally flipped last night. I was playing magnus and I was getting ganked by CM and windrunner, and I die after barely killing the CM. He immediately goes like "OMG why are you in mid???" (aside from getting ganked obviously, there was nothing wrong about being in mid, I wasn't even in a very vulnerable position), because even though he is fucking awful at the game, he believes himself to be basically pro/semi-pro level, is the kind of player who thinks "CM is the only real game mode", and that the best player (which is obviously him) is entitled to play hard carry or mid every single game, and he feels the need to have a say in fucking everything.

I had finally had enough and said something along the lines of "Shut the fuck up you stupid piece of shit. You fucking suck at this game, would you please just shut the fuck up."

Made him stay relatively quiet for the rest of the game, and I quickly left skype as soon as the game was over. Hopefully I won't have to play with him anymore, or he'll at least stop thinking he's gods gift to dota.

Damn, that must have been some akward silence is that skype convo afterwards.


Had the same with a friend of mine (a reaaaaaal long time friend) who just started playing DotA2. He all-randomed all the time and really started to shine in decision making, but didnt want to take any advice. He the banned me from his teamspeak for having an "unjustified aggressive tone" towards him when he screwed a game again.

Whelp :-/
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 10:35:33
February 07 2013 10:24 GMT
#6828
On February 07 2013 19:12 Canas wrote:
Rapier throws. Rapier throws fucking everywhere. Jesus fucking christ, I don't care if we're up 2 lanes of rax, you don't fucking go rapier unless you absolutely fucking have to.


Haha. I feel you on that. Not seen a rapier in a while but whenever I DO see one my heart nearly stops.

Personally I view Rapier is the DOTA2 equivalent of "all in". Either you kill your opponent with it, or you're going to die horribly by donating it unless you get very, very lucky. Therefore it isn't something you want to buy in a game where you're comfortably going to win.



With regard to Battlefury on Gondar: I actually can see where they're going with that as a recommended item actually. Perseverance can be a good item on him in pubs. With that and a few levels it lets you stay invisible forever thanks to the mana regen and it adds a lot of survivability with the health regen. Then extra damage is always good, right? I think the problem is that every other Bfury hero plays as "get Battle Fury, farm all the lanes and all the camps and win" which just isn't Gondar's play style. But since all of the others work that way, thats how people play it. They rush right up to Bfury and then try to farm.
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righthand
Profile Joined June 2006
Haiti163 Posts
February 07 2013 10:28 GMT
#6829
On February 07 2013 17:51 Grettin wrote:
Dota killing friendships since the release. Well, i do have friends who flip out because of friends playing badly/worse than someone too.

I guess its pretty normal.


This is very true. haha

I used to have a game that i buy courier but then 20mins my friend didn't upgrade it( I can upgrade it but I want to see if he will or not). We had some arguments but very long time later the friendships heal itself lol.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
February 07 2013 11:40 GMT
#6830
Drow ranger that does not learn frost arrows...
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
February 07 2013 11:44 GMT
#6831
On February 07 2013 16:25 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 16:15 TheEmulator wrote:
On February 07 2013 16:08 Dr. ROCKZO wrote:
I hate supporting carries who don't know how to farm. So painful to see them miss last hits, and then there's their inventory 60 minutes in after a really close early and mid: Manta Style and Phase.

It's just like, this one person who the team was relying on to do a relatively simple job, failed us completely and there's nothing we can do about it if the enemy team's carries are competent at all.


I hate supporting carries that don't even realize they are supposed to farm, and it happens quite often. Even in the very high bracket you see 100 cs voids after 40 minutes who just roam with the team, and I am like go farm you MORON.

But yeah, I agree that seeing ones who farm but don't know how is worse. It's sad seeing a free farming luna only have 150 cs at 30 minutes, when I would have a minimum of 300 if free farming.


MORE people have no idea on how to support a carry though. Plenty of times i was the carry, the team starts shouting at me for split pushing and getting farm while they 4 v 5 defending a tower. I always ask them...what do they expect a PMS/Tread/Culling blade Void to do without items?


Carry is much more of a simple role to play than support, especially early game to mid game. Just farm and don't die, and get the situational kills. Its really a simple and more importantly for pubs, self serving. Where as playing support requires you to make sacrifices for the good of the team, which most people will not do in pubs even if they understand what they should do. Often it is because you cannot trust the carry to be reliable due to randomness of MM, so they just play the support like a farm dependent hero. I mean if the carry sux, might as well get the gold for yourself, you can make more out of it than the fail carry anyways(I don't do this, i just play full support and rage when the carry fails lol)
One carry that makes me heart pain often is PL. After demonstrating some PL stomping in a game, one of my friend keeps picking PL whenever we need a carry when we play together. His micro suck so bad, always pain me everytime I see those illusions standing around T_T
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
February 07 2013 12:10 GMT
#6832
On February 07 2013 20:40 Dante08 wrote:
Drow ranger that does not learn frost arrows...

No need for frost arrow and silence. Just need aura, ult, and stat.
I used to do that when I had to play with 250ish ping in Dota1 Funny thing is, we won most of the games when I did that. Garena kids were bad.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
February 07 2013 12:31 GMT
#6833
Yeah i found out it is much better to just solo pub and get a good game here and there than playing with friends of my friends using teamspeak.
There is always a complete retard who does not listen and there is always a self-important guy who just shouts at you whenever you do a little mistake (i am doing mistakes of course).
I managed to play some really nice games in public where everyone actually listened to me and we won thanks to good teamplay. After the game i got commended for leadership and everyone wrote really nice game. That is much better than having to deal with idiots on teamspeak.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
February 07 2013 14:55 GMT
#6834
The pub experience in this game has been letting me down hardcore lately. It's very rare to get a decent game for me nowadays with team matchmaking and the nature of the game. I play with bad friends, and the matchmaking puts us against people they can't handle even on my smurfs. On the other hand, solo queue for me produces crap games more often than not. I'm top 3% according to DBR(lul) and there are still people on both teams that just completely ruin games. I understand the nature of the game, how picks or less played heroes can ruin the game from the start, but it's getting bad for me. I very rarely have bad games, so it's sort of strange to me how people in my games do so often. I can't have fun in a one sided game from the first few minutes, be it winning or losing, but that's how it has to be for DOTA to be great at the highest competitive level. It's a shame but playing matchmaking solo and team is becoming much less attractive by the day. : (
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 07 2013 15:21 GMT
#6835
On February 07 2013 23:55 Gentso wrote:
The pub experience in this game has been letting me down hardcore lately. It's very rare to get a decent game for me nowadays with team matchmaking and the nature of the game. I play with bad friends, and the matchmaking puts us against people they can't handle even on my smurfs. On the other hand, solo queue for me produces crap games more often than not. I'm top 3% according to DBR(lul) and there are still people on both teams that just completely ruin games. I understand the nature of the game, how picks or less played heroes can ruin the game from the start, but it's getting bad for me. I very rarely have bad games, so it's sort of strange to me how people in my games do so often. I can't have fun in a one sided game from the first few minutes, be it winning or losing, but that's how it has to be for DOTA to be great at the highest competitive level. It's a shame but playing matchmaking solo and team is becoming much less attractive by the day. : (


When your like me, of 6friends of mine that plays DOTA2, only 1 of them even plays decently(high/very high bracket like me)....party-ing with friends become a chore.

Trying to teach them how2dota is even worse...i end up looking like a bad tempered person. I rather solo queue if that single friend isn't online. If i do have to join them, i will grab my smurf and just have fun. Though it's painful seeing them do stupid things and trying to NOT correct them.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 07 2013 17:00 GMT
#6836
Anyone else wish they were the crappy guy on the team? I'm tired of being the best, by far, in our team of 5 every time.

I'm tired of telling everyone what to do. I'm tired of rushing out to my lane last second because I've spent the last 2 minutes helping people with who to pick, who they'd be good with, what items they should start with, etc. I'm tired of getting pissed and yelling at them for doing the same dumb thing the 20th time in a row after I told them not to. And, it's not that they didn't understand, they just blatantly ignored me. I'm tired of telling someone they're about to die, them consoling me, and then them dying. "Told ya so?" I'm tired of people just goofing off because they think I'll pull off some miracle later on and win the game anyway. Why can't I goof off and you guys actually win your lanes?

Someone carry me for once.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 07 2013 17:01 GMT
#6837
On February 08 2013 00:21 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 23:55 Gentso wrote:
The pub experience in this game has been letting me down hardcore lately. It's very rare to get a decent game for me nowadays with team matchmaking and the nature of the game. I play with bad friends, and the matchmaking puts us against people they can't handle even on my smurfs. On the other hand, solo queue for me produces crap games more often than not. I'm top 3% according to DBR(lul) and there are still people on both teams that just completely ruin games. I understand the nature of the game, how picks or less played heroes can ruin the game from the start, but it's getting bad for me. I very rarely have bad games, so it's sort of strange to me how people in my games do so often. I can't have fun in a one sided game from the first few minutes, be it winning or losing, but that's how it has to be for DOTA to be great at the highest competitive level. It's a shame but playing matchmaking solo and team is becoming much less attractive by the day. : (


When your like me, of 6friends of mine that plays DOTA2, only 1 of them even plays decently(high/very high bracket like me)....party-ing with friends become a chore.

Trying to teach them how2dota is even worse...i end up looking like a bad tempered person. I rather solo queue if that single friend isn't online. If i do have to join them, i will grab my smurf and just have fun. Though it's painful seeing them do stupid things and trying to NOT correct them.


This is what it's turning into for me. I'd just rather solo queue and roll the dice instead of know who I play with is going to be awful.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
February 07 2013 17:11 GMT
#6838
Aside from the ones I've bought and placed, I don't think I've seen a single fucking ward all day, holy shit
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 19:48:38
February 07 2013 19:48 GMT
#6839
apparently, pro gondars (i.e. not my gondar) get bfury instead of drums and bkb.

and alchs get MoM first item.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 07 2013 19:52 GMT
#6840
On February 08 2013 04:48 zeehar wrote:
apparently, pro gondars (i.e. not my gondar) get bfury instead of drums and bkb.

and alchs get MoM first item.

Patented comeh MoM Oov build coming to a pub near you (when patch is out).
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