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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
January 01 2013 17:04 GMT
#5561
On January 01 2013 23:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
Random PA, rest of the team gets Gyro, Sven, Rubick and Shadow Shaman.
SS: "not supporting you"
SS: "only russian fucktards here"
Yeah, we lost that game.

this is why it would be nice if valve could give some incentive for people to try a little harder!
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
January 01 2013 17:53 GMT
#5562
On January 01 2013 13:09 ArcticRaven wrote:
https://dotabuff.com/matches/90268653

Love those matches when you are in 51/62 kills of your team and lose because you weren't quick enough to get a true sight before the fed skeleton king pushed your ancient.


Dat Daedalus on SK.

Dat double Helm on TA.

That must have been frustrating to lose to.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
January 01 2013 18:12 GMT
#5563
just bought steam funds for 5 euros to open a frostivus chest with a key costing 2 euros only to get an uncommon mask to bounty hunter...fffuuuu WASTE OF MONEY -.- ughh
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
January 01 2013 18:54 GMT
#5564
Fuck chests, I get 9 of these things in 10 drops. >_>
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 01 2013 19:37 GMT
#5565
On January 01 2013 10:51 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 09:12 drowisimba wrote:
This is rather interesting (regarding matchmaking again). As I said, I created a new account, queuing with the same friend I always play with. However, on my new account we constantly get games that are literally impossible to win. Our teammates are actually retarded, if not outright trolling (one guy played music via voice chat the entire game). The opponents are decent, some even good.

Now, certainly we should get worse teammates since my account is ranked low (I didn't even pick veteran or whatever the highest is called), and we normally get games in high or very high when I play on my normal account. But shouldn't that make it so that it's EASIER to win for us, now that the game erroneously ranks me lower (i.e. thinks I'm a worse player than I am)? However, that just isn't so. In fact, I have yet to win on my new account! I got close one game, but yeah... no.

Let's see how many games I can carry this loss streak...

And what if I was actually a new player? I would certainly quit right about now. In fact, I will probably quit this game after this little bit of research anyway, purely because of the matchmaking.

I have yet to face anyone half decent when I make new accounts, always crush my way to very high. Are you sure the problem lies with everything but you and your friend?


Well you see, my condescending friend, even if the case is that I suck and my friend suck, that would STILL not explain why we have a harder time winning when the game ranks me LOWER than I am ranked on my other account.

See, no matter how good or bad I am, being ranked lower should mean I get easier games, right? It's not like I automatically PLAY worse just because I'm on a different account playing.

This is a huge problem with the matchmaking.
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 19:56:28
January 01 2013 19:46 GMT
#5566
https://dotabuff.com/players/118462787 My smurf, i ticked the middle "dota knowledge" option when i made it and me and my friends (from which one is absoultly fucking horrible bad and for whom 2 of us made smurfs so he can enjoy game's at least a bit while playing with us) make retarded picks. Does it matter? Barely. If you are decent you should stomp starting games unless you face other smurfs who outplay you. After 4 or 5 games we were already ranked as high.

Matchmaking is bad in this game, blaming losing games on smurf on it is just silly.
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
January 01 2013 20:01 GMT
#5567
Valve should either show the MMR or remove the silly 'Normal', 'High' and 'Very High' brackets, they are really not doing any good, just creating room for people to whine based on a piece of information that really is meaningless.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
January 01 2013 20:27 GMT
#5568
Drow has singlehandedly ruined solo matchmaking for me...Yes she's easy to gank but only when I'm playing with my freinds..She's picked in 95% of the games and if your team doesn't gank her enough(rarely happens in solo queue pubs) then she completely roflstomps you lategame no matter how big your team's carries are

The only time I win against her is when we are completely stomping them but if that doesn't happen and the game goes to the late game and neither team is too far behind in terms of xp and gold , then the team with drow wins 100%

This is my third qq post about drow i think..Words cannot describe how much i hate this hero
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
January 01 2013 20:38 GMT
#5569
On January 02 2013 02:53 GentleDrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 13:09 ArcticRaven wrote:
https://dotabuff.com/matches/90268653

Love those matches when you are in 51/62 kills of your team and lose because you weren't quick enough to get a true sight before the fed skeleton king pushed your ancient.


Dat Daedalus on SK.

Dat double Helm on TA.

That must have been frustrating to lose to.


And you didn't even watch the replay - my mid matchup was Storm vs Skeleton/Sven.

Probably my worst QQ since I started playing TT
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
January 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#5570
Fuck this, im done untill they change mmr...so far its just a bad joke. I rarely ever get mad because of dota but lately it just has been too much.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:41:38
January 01 2013 22:31 GMT
#5571
On January 02 2013 04:37 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 10:51 Alur wrote:
On January 01 2013 09:12 drowisimba wrote:
This is rather interesting (regarding matchmaking again). As I said, I created a new account, queuing with the same friend I always play with. However, on my new account we constantly get games that are literally impossible to win. Our teammates are actually retarded, if not outright trolling (one guy played music via voice chat the entire game). The opponents are decent, some even good.

Now, certainly we should get worse teammates since my account is ranked low (I didn't even pick veteran or whatever the highest is called), and we normally get games in high or very high when I play on my normal account. But shouldn't that make it so that it's EASIER to win for us, now that the game erroneously ranks me lower (i.e. thinks I'm a worse player than I am)? However, that just isn't so. In fact, I have yet to win on my new account! I got close one game, but yeah... no.

Let's see how many games I can carry this loss streak...

And what if I was actually a new player? I would certainly quit right about now. In fact, I will probably quit this game after this little bit of research anyway, purely because of the matchmaking.

I have yet to face anyone half decent when I make new accounts, always crush my way to very high. Are you sure the problem lies with everything but you and your friend?


Well you see, my condescending friend, even if the case is that I suck and my friend suck, that would STILL not explain why we have a harder time winning when the game ranks me LOWER than I am ranked on my other account.

See, no matter how good or bad I am, being ranked lower should mean I get easier games, right? It's not like I automatically PLAY worse just because I'm on a different account playing.

This is a huge problem with the matchmaking.

If you are playing below your rating, your team (by the merit of having you and your friend) should win more often than not.
Based on that assumption, we can deduce this:
1. You did all you could, but played agaisnt other underrated players, while having fewer/no underrated players as your teammates. Consistently. The odds of this happening are astronomically low.
2. You and your teammate didn't have enough of an impact on the outcome of the game. If you're the best player on a team by far, assuming high-impact roles like hardcarry or solomid is optimal. It can be done with any hero/lane though, if the difference in skill is large enough.

I'm not trying to demean you, I'm just quite cynical when it comes to people trying to rationalize losses, that tendency towards not taking responsibility. Because if you make a new account, and proceed to go on a losing streak, its probably reasonable to assume that you're not as far away from your "real" rating as you think.

You should check out this video-blog by purge (youtube link). Among other things it explains how the bellcurve that is the population of players, makes it so that the difference in skill between the 40th and 60th percentile of players is relatively small.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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[Erasmus]
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia286 Posts
January 02 2013 00:21 GMT
#5572
guy picks KotL, calls solo mid... w/e. then after the rest of the team doesn't go too hard in supports (only me) he says "not a support, I carry with KotL". He rushes boots, shadow blade, rapier! then dies and hands them a rapier so we lose... :/
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 06:31:23
January 02 2013 06:27 GMT
#5573
I've been randoming to start playing and getting a feel for more heroes. Picking phase starts. I random Tiny. Another guy randoms Slark. Then it's like 15 seconds left in picking phase. Random Broodmother Random Sniper Random Riki. I repick to AA to support because I figured I should get some unfamiliar hero practice because the game is already lost.

Im with Riki versus a Windrunner and bottle first Enigma...what the fuck. We get first blood on Enigma...maybe they're really bad too!? Then Riki starts rambo blinking in on Enigma and feeds like 3 times before I could even set up the kill. Sniper goes Shadow Blade and the other team has been buying Dust. Wtf gg.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
January 02 2013 06:30 GMT
#5574
That's two random Slarks. You broke the game, impressive.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 02 2013 06:31 GMT
#5575
oops, I meant random Riki
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 02 2013 06:38 GMT
#5576
On January 02 2013 09:21 [Erasmus] wrote:
guy picks KotL, calls solo mid... w/e. then after the rest of the team doesn't go too hard in supports (only me) he says "not a support, I carry with KotL". He rushes boots, shadow blade, rapier! then dies and hands them a rapier so we lose... :/


What a fool, everyone knows you go BoT's/SheepStick/Eye of Skadi and a million wards to carry KotL.

https://dotabuff.com/matches/89992629 (9/1/15)
https://dotabuff.com/matches/90288334 (12/6/20)
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 08:27:13
January 02 2013 08:25 GMT
#5577
I am honestly at a loss for words with this last game... Shadow demon does not skill soul catcher at all... Rubick level 4 at 17 minutes in... Jugg does not skill his ward... I am solo mid as Bat vs Enigma and kill enigma once while still keeping solid CS considering his eidelon spam and get bottle + boots + blink by 9 minutes in.... Side lanes feed 14 kills in 7 minutes...


It is literally impossible to win sometimes with these people.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
January 02 2013 08:54 GMT
#5578
Some guys picks naix while I am Lina and proceed radiant hard lane calling solo(we also have a jungling axe). We told him to come easy lane and I'd support Naix. Then with first creep wave he droped to 100 hp. Then he wrote "i'll coming to bottom" and try to ruin our farm. I sighed and proceed to top and pushed the wave back. Also secure a kill with my friend axe.
Later on axe kill their easy lane like 5-6 times and dominate the lane while Naix is jungling with doom with no success. Mid kunkka managed to be dominated by dazzle middle. Dazzle thrash talk all the game and dive me because I kill him.
Also call me noob after that kill. I don't understand why it is that hard to accept to die.

Then other team managed to play better than us and got an easy win despite we have Drow. I think we were punished by some pagan gods and this game is supposed to be high queue. Jeez...


“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
givemefive
Profile Joined April 2010
United States300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 09:06:07
January 02 2013 09:03 GMT
#5579
https://dotabuff.com/matches/90870244

KOTL is out of position 76% of the time and never is buying wards or sentries.
But the killer is that Drow maxes arrows, 1 in silence and doesn't even bother getting aura. Then proceeds to rush manta instead of BKB for riki/tide. We have an amazing amount of push early but we can't sustain because no BKB on drow.


https://dotabuff.com/matches/90953715

I solo top with LD so we can have DS jungle and be more active. Except Gyro leaves the free farm lane vs weaver to roam and doens't get anything done. Then kotl dies a bunch to weaver and Gyro afk farms without his 3rd ability leveled for most of the game : / The team keeps trying to push with 3-4 people but the supports won't buy sentries so we can't get anything done.


StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
January 02 2013 10:10 GMT
#5580
On January 02 2013 18:03 givemefive wrote:
https://dotabuff.com/matches/90953715

I solo top with LD so we can have DS jungle and be more active. Except Gyro leaves the free farm lane vs weaver to roam and doens't get anything done. Then kotl dies a bunch to weaver and Gyro afk farms without his 3rd ability leveled for most of the game : / The team keeps trying to push with 3-4 people but the supports won't buy sentries so we can't get anything done.




pub-rule #1: buy dusts/sentries even if you're playing carry
Cheaping out on those 200g may often cost you a lot more
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