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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
September 27 2022 11:02 GMT
#14761
Thanks! I'll let them know what I've found and let them choose. Architects aren't the brightest when it comes to computers and I've been out of the game for a bit (computer building)

I was going to try and grab a 3070 or 3080 just so I can run some render engines. Shame they still don't have anything worthwhile that'll work on AMD cards. My 5700XT is still going strong but it's probably time to upgrade soon. Next year (if the holiday deals aren't worth a damn) is when I plan to grab a new card anyway. Looking at the 6000 series or mid-range 7000 series.

Not going near the newer Nvidia cards after the CEO basically said go fuck ourselves if we want their cards.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
September 30 2022 16:15 GMT
#14762
Interesting...

-.-
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
September 30 2022 17:18 GMT
#14763
On September 27 2022 04:51 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2022 03:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On September 26 2022 02:42 Lmui wrote:
On September 25 2022 12:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Got a question for everyone. I've done some digging but I can't find what I'm looking for.

I need a GPU for a HP workstation for my job, this one that is capable of running Autodesk Revit. We've ordered a Nvidia T600 but it didn't play nice with it and my coworker couldn't actually do anything. Anyone got any ideas of compatible cards or where I would find it? I've already checked the autodesk website and I still can't find what I'm looking for.


Not sure.
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Revit-2021-products.html

It looks like all it it needs is a basic graphics card, because between the entry level, and top level, it uses the same GPU requirements.

Your only restriction is that the case seems to be half-height, and I don't know the PSU included.

The most recent card that fills the slot is this:
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-r64d6-4gl/p/N82E16814932515?quicklink=true

AMD RX 6400 is a pretty low power card.

I don't know if there's a professional card which would do better/have better compatibility though. Might have to do some forum trawling for that.

That might work. I didn't see that one mentioned. We've tried that Nvidia card and a AMD WX3200. The Nvidia just didn't want to work apparently and the wx3200 was too long (and the port shield was too long as well, kind of like how the 6400 is looking). They might just have to buy them a new computer.


Yeah, unfortunately workstation applications are not something widely used, so the audience/content around it is pretty sparse. The 6400 I linked has a half-height bracket (silver metal thing on end) which can be swapped in, so it should fit (assumign HP follows standards).

The workstation variant of the same card:
https://www.newegg.com/amd-100-506189/p/N82E16814105113?Description=W6400&cm_re=W6400-_-14-105-113-_-Product&quicklink=true

Good luck though, whichever way you go. PITA troubleshooting compatibility with software.

In other news though, AMD 7000 series CPUs are out. Expensive, and fast is the conclusion. Solid for gaming albeit expensive, and generally the king for productivity.

The gaping hole in the lineup for the 7800X3D is probably where the patient, rich person's money should go though. That'll probably dominate gaming charts comfortably for a until the next generation of CPU with v-cache. There's also Intel's next gen in the next month, so the best time to buy is probably early next year, rather than now.

Just looked at the AMD cards and they're not too expensive from the 5000 series. The Intel ARC cards look to be a sweet spot, but what are the adoption and support looking like for games? I'm looking at the 7700X right now since it has a good value. Don't know where the top end ARC cards are going to fall, so I'm still waiting. But if the holiday has any good deals, I might jump on a AMD card and 3080 if prices are right.

Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada593 Posts
September 30 2022 20:48 GMT
#14764
I'm more concerned about the Intel ARC cards actually functionning if I were to go for it. This video from last month shows that there were multiple driver issues as well as the control center software. I do hope that they've been fixed, but you may want to check and make sure they work fine.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
September 30 2022 22:28 GMT
#14765
I'm waiting until next month when the cards actually get out and a lot of people start to test them. I think it'll come down to if the developers of games/software are throwing in support for the card. If there's little "this works on ARC" then I'm definitely not going to go anywhere near it. I'll watch the video you linked tonight for sure.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
November 04 2022 21:25 GMT
#14766
ARC drivers will definitely not be really usable in my view for many years if ever, and it's starting to look more like abandonware

Radeon is taking huge strides recently but they were miles ahead of Intel drivers already
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
November 04 2022 23:36 GMT
#14767
I have some spare, old hardware. What can I do with these?

1 * gtx 750
1 * gtx 1060 3gb version
1 * i3 4160 haswell cpu
1 * pentium haswell cpu (forgot the model)
1 * haswell matx mobo
1 * haswell itx mobo
1 * 350w psu
1 * 4gb ddr3 ram
1 * 120gb ssd
1 * 320gb hdd

I thought maybe I can build an HTPC with gtx750+itx mobo+pentium cpu+psu, if I buy a small case. Rest can be a light gaming-browsing pc if I buy some extra ram and a PSU. I don't really need an HTPC or an extra PC, though.

I never sold any hardware before, do you think anyone would buy them? Do you just put away your old stuff?
Age of Mythology forever!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
November 05 2022 00:31 GMT
#14768
You can list them and see if anyone will buy them. Hobbyist are always looking. The best route is to try and make the HTPC (I know someone that is doing that).

So the AMD Radeon 7900s look good. I'm waiting on benchmark numbers (and next spring) to decide if I want to upgrade. My 5700 is screaming right now when I work in UE5 (though it handles CP2077 on max (no RT) just fine). Found some cheap 3060/3080s on Newegg, so I might end up getting 2 cards and building a new PC altogether. One for rendering/game design and one for gaming.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11952 Posts
November 08 2022 06:10 GMT
#14769
I am looking for some advice.

I have a 1440p 240 Hz monitor. The way i understand it, to completely use that, i should be using Display port.

However, when using the monitor via Display Port, it sometimes just turns on and off constantly without working, with the PC making the "disconnected - connected sound".

I assumed this to be a cable problem, and bought a new Display Port cable explicitly designed for working with high transfer rates. This solved the problem for a month. But now the problem is back, and i am back to using my old HDMI cable to actually get an image on the screen. Switching which exact ports the cable is attached to does not seem to change anything.

Is the new cable bad again? Is there some other problem? How can i get a long-term solution to this problem?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
November 13 2022 00:06 GMT
#14770
On November 08 2022 15:10 Simberto wrote:
I am looking for some advice.

I have a 1440p 240 Hz monitor. The way i understand it, to completely use that, i should be using Display port.

However, when using the monitor via Display Port, it sometimes just turns on and off constantly without working, with the PC making the "disconnected - connected sound".

I assumed this to be a cable problem, and bought a new Display Port cable explicitly designed for working with high transfer rates. This solved the problem for a month. But now the problem is back, and i am back to using my old HDMI cable to actually get an image on the screen. Switching which exact ports the cable is attached to does not seem to change anything.

Is the new cable bad again? Is there some other problem? How can i get a long-term solution to this problem?


There might be some settings in the monitor OSD related to displayport, one of my monitors had an issue unless "displayport deep sleep" or something like that was turned off.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
December 20 2022 14:00 GMT
#14771
Need a new desk. Anyone got any options or links? Also need a good reliable dual mount system. Trying to prep my place for long hours of designing and so far I'm lost.

Also on the list is a partial rebuild of the desktop. New GPU and AMD CPU. 3070/3080 if possible and priced decently. Or the new 7000 series AMD
Thoughts?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-21 17:25:46
February 21 2023 17:21 GMT
#14772
Didn't reply cause i didn't know anything to recommend there :D I also need a desk. Still.

I'm getting AM5 w/ 7950x3d rn, got talked into Hynix 16gbit A memory as well which is the newest chip, highest clocking and easiest on memory controllers but some timings may be a little looser if you run it at the same frequency as Hynix 16gbit M. Most people should probably buy M right now as it's super cheap (£170 for a good bin of 2x16GB 1Rx8).

Have not made final mobo choice yet

Got some new SSD's also, the P41 is giving some great numbers [image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
February 21 2023 17:32 GMT
#14773
On December 20 2022 23:00 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Need a new desk. Anyone got any options or links? Also need a good reliable dual mount system. Trying to prep my place for long hours of designing and so far I'm lost.

Also on the list is a partial rebuild of the desktop. New GPU and AMD CPU. 3070/3080 if possible and priced decently. Or the new 7000 series AMD
Thoughts?


Super slow, but I personally prefer two single mounts over a single dual mount. It's slightly uglier, but it's a lot more flexible in the long run, because you can get ultrawide monitors, larger monitor sizes etc. in the future, without rendering the mount useless.
elsasmith23
Profile Joined February 2023
1 Post
Last Edited: 2023-02-22 12:10:37
February 21 2023 18:23 GMT
#14774
--- Nuked ---
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-21 19:06:55
February 21 2023 19:02 GMT
#14775
On February 22 2023 03:23 elsasmith23 wrote:
Great job,

What is the best time to buy computer parts?! Is there more deals at Christmas? Black friday ? etc

Thanks for all the information!


Best time to buy is when you actually need a new PC. If what you have already works for the tasks its just a waste of time searching for "the best time".

The longer you wait the better it gets as always, except for scalping but thats not really the case now.
-.-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-01 20:50:48
March 01 2023 20:44 GMT
#14776
Got my 7950x3d in, tentatively SC2 is scaling big and i think the only thing that may challenge it is a 13900k/ks with a manually tuned ~DDR5-8000 setup (if that)

In 1CCD mode (basically a 7800x3d with a better bin and frequency limit) it's running 36% over 5800x3d with all settings at specification on a co-op map with physics max.

During the SC2 bench it averaged 5239mhz (hard cap is 5250), package power of 48w, temperature of 53-56c (avg 54) - without any CO tune.

That's on an Arctic Liquid Freezer II with offset mount. Just getting some quick stats out there, bench and tuning project will be ongoing for many weeks
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
October 18 2023 11:26 GMT
#14777
I put my 7800x3D on -30 PBO. Temps lowered but fps was also lower. Anyone else noticed this?
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
October 19 2023 09:57 GMT
#14778
On October 18 2023 20:26 llIH wrote:
I put my 7800x3D on -30 PBO. Temps lowered but fps was also lower. Anyone else noticed this?


Thats expected.
-.-
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
October 19 2023 10:15 GMT
#14779
On October 19 2023 18:57 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2023 20:26 llIH wrote:
I put my 7800x3D on -30 PBO. Temps lowered but fps was also lower. Anyone else noticed this?


Thats expected.


What am I doing wrong? I was expecting better performance. Just to be clear from the start. I am a complete noob when it comes to this topic.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
October 19 2023 13:51 GMT
#14780
You are constraining the CPUs performance by putting a limit.

Set it to -15 and do tests, change up/down until you find the optimal value.
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