EPTAny tips or advice for overclocking these?
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread - Page 632
| Forum Index > Tech Support |
When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly. | ||
|
DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
Any tips or advice for overclocking these? | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On November 17 2016 11:17 DarthPunk wrote: HI guys, recently bought a pair of 1080's and I have had a heap of trouble overclocking them. Small bumps to the core seem to introduce instability on some games. (Need for speed particularly) Any tips or advice for overclocking these? Take a look at the actual clock speed that you're getting under full load without any overclocking applied, that's the one that matters and the only way to see it in software is to load the GPU and look the clock that it goes to Two likely problems: 1; You're already near the limit for that voltage, you should increase the voltage rather than adding clock offset. Increasing voltage will increase clocks as well, so don't change both at the same time. 2; You're adjusting a single setting which is overclocking the low power states as well as the high power states; it might be fine on the high power states but crash whenever the GPU throttles due to power, temperature or low load. This is no longer neccesary on the 10-series cards as they have individual options that let you increase clockspeeds only while at the higher voltages without affecting the rest of the frequency vs voltage curve Trying to OC two cards at the same time may be more annoying than doing one at a time to figure out a profile that comfortably works for both | ||
|
DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
Ill just try increasing the voltage slightly and explore the new settings further. | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
| ||
|
zoLo
United States5896 Posts
What is your current build? CPU: Intel i5-2500k Sandy Bridge MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL GPU: MSI TWIN FROZR II NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 ST1000DM005/HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive CASE: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0 PSU: CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply & New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready What is your monitor's native resolution? 1080P (Acer X233Hbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 40000:1 (ACM)) What is your budget? As long as it's under $2,000 What country will you be buying your parts in? United States If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify. Not really. I could buy instore at places like Fry's Electronics, too. | ||
|
nojok
France15846 Posts
I will be moving to a house soon so I would like to finally buy an offcie computer. What is your budget? 600 euros but could go up to 800, the lower the better though What is your monitor's native resolution? I have to buy one What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Dota, mostly indie games (a lot of them seem poorly coded though like PoE), I'd like to be able to play overwatch, I couldn't care less if the settings are on the lowest. I still would like this CPU to be able to last a decent amount of years ie run at least the indie games/smaller games released in a few years What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing more than the usual web browsing Do you intend to overclock? No Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Monitor and yes it's part of the budget If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. No What country will you be buying your parts in? France If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. No But a prebuilt from the larger vendors such as Dell or Cyberpower will be less expensive than if you were to build the exact configuration yourself because these large vendors have economies of scale on their side. So why do people say that you save money if it isn't true? Well, you do end up saving money sometimes but that's not because you're saving on the labour, overhead costs, and markup. It’s because you’re able to customize it and select the appropriate parts for your needs. Given that I don't have very high needs, prebuilt might be ok? | ||
|
ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On November 19 2016 06:38 zoLo wrote: Not really sure if I should upgrade or just build a whole new system since I want to be able to play the latest games like Battlefield One, Dishonored 2, etc at high settings. Do you guys think 4k is worth it? I'm thinking of buying a new monitor too. What is your current build? CPU: Intel i5-2500k Sandy Bridge MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL GPU: MSI TWIN FROZR II NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 ST1000DM005/HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive CASE: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0 PSU: CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply & New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready What is your monitor's native resolution? 1080P (Acer X233Hbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 40000:1 (ACM)) What is your budget? As long as it's under $2,000 What country will you be buying your parts in? United States If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify. Not really. I could buy instore at places like Fry's Electronics, too. Pretty sure this i5 coupled with a newer graphics card would be enough to run the latest games on high, but maybe it's too old to be worth it in the long run compared to just making a new pc. Maybe some specialist here can tell us. As for monitors 4k isn't worth looking into with that budget, although i wouldn't stay with an old TN. You might wanna check IPS or 144hz monitors and see if you're interested :p | ||
|
Craton
United States17303 Posts
That's gonna run you like $500 for the monitor and $1200 for graphics card(s), leaving you ~$300 for everything else (CPU, motherboard, PSU, etc.). I'm not actually sure what the power load of a Titan X Pascal is, but I'd guess a 650W is probably enough. In theory, you could afford a new monitor and graphics card and go with that if you really wanted to. I've found gaming >1080p to be incredibly underwhelming. For some FPS games some people swear by high FPS monitors (1080p@144hz), while other people can't tell the difference or don't find it meaningful. For non-FPS games the value drops off. In either event, you need to actually be able to render at that high of a framerate. Having a 144hz monitor while rendering at only 80fps doesn't do you much good. | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Also some other benefits like improved screen tearing and many games render the mouse cursor independantly of the game @ the monitor refresh rate You can power a titan XP around stock and a moderately OC'd 6600k on a good 450w PSU but 550w is nicer to have than 450w IMO. Low-clocked Pascal has god tier efficiency + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/Titan_X_Pascal/images/power_average.png) ![[image loading]](https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/Titan_X_Pascal/images/perfwatt_3840_2160.png) Multi-GPU has actually regressed in usefulness in the last year and even when it works well, almost everything uses alternate frame rendering which gives you the input lag of playing at 30fps if you're getting 60fps with two GPU's | ||
|
ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On November 19 2016 22:09 nojok wrote: Hi guys, my 5 years old laptop is overheating as hell and will just shut down I will be moving to a house soon so I would like to finally buy an offcie computer. What is your budget? 600 euros but could go up to 800, the lower the better though What is your monitor's native resolution? I have to buy one What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Dota, mostly indie games (a lot of them seem poorly coded though like PoE), I'd like to be able to play overwatch, I couldn't care less if the settings are on the lowest. I still would like this CPU to be able to last a decent amount of years ie run at least the indie games/smaller games released in a few years What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing more than the usual web browsing Do you intend to overclock? No Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Monitor and yes it's part of the budget If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. No What country will you be buying your parts in? France If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. No Given that I don't have very high needs, prebuilt might be ok? The thing about prebuilt is that they cheap out on components like the power supply and often make for unbalance cpu/gpu systems. Where you save money is from windows that comes integrated, while it cost more than a 100 bucks when you're building your own pc. You might wanna look into prebuilt by retailers such as Materiel.net and LDLC, where you can actually see the components and pick one that has windows. Still not as ideal as picking each part yourself. The fact that you need the monitor and windows makes it pretty tough to fit in a 800€ budget, but it's possible. Because the retailers i mentionned remove older products pretty quickly, i think looking up for an older generation cpu/gpu on some other site like amazon can help reduce the overall cost. Heres what it could look like (no idea how AMD cpus fair against competition these days, someone feel free to give a better cpu/gpu combo) : CPU : core i3 6100 GPU : nVidia GTX 1050 or AMD RX 460 MOBO : cheapest H110M (micro-ATX to fit the N200) RAM : 2x4Gb of ddr4 2133mhz HDD: 1Tb hard drive PSU : corsair cx430 / LDLC BG-400 recommended if you order on that site Case : cooler master N200 Monitor : 1080p IPS OS : Windows 10 home 64 bits USB (cost an extra 10 bucks over the oem version but at least you can reinstall it if you ever change motherboard). I didn't specify brands/manufacturers for some of those because you can't find them all depending on websites, and prices obviously vary. Same for monitors, for your budget i recommend an IPS 1080p at around 150€ but you're probably gonna want to read reviews to be sure they're not too terrible. And always check if the one you're buying includes a DVI or HDMI cable, some of them only give VGA and it's terrible so you'd need to buy a DVI/HDMI cable for an extra 10€ unless you already own one | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
no idea how AMD cpus fair against competition these days They don't, really, outside of two main areas (perf/$ multithreaded workstations that don't care much about ST perf and also cheap APU's for systems undercutting dedicated graphics) There's a new architecture built from the ground up releasing in a few months that should be much more competitive and all-around good. | ||
|
ArtyK
France3144 Posts
| ||
fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
I've been running my broadwell i5-5675c (aircooled, clocked to 4.0ghz in a tiny case without effort) for my graphics, 3D and light gaming loads very successfully for the past year, still havent felt the need to actually pick up a dedicated GFX card. Dota & CS:GO will easily go 100fps+ on it, Civ6 runs fine and Overwatch would probably play at ~40-60fps at med settings. Which is a considerable upgrade from a 5 year old laptop anyway (somewhat similar to the upgrade I had) My total build cost was around 900€ with a 1080p IPS monitor, you can probably cut 100-200€ from there with HDD & case choices You can see my build here, I only recently upgraded it with more ram while DDR3 is still common (DDR4 is already at times cheaper) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=11015&topic_id=426532 | ||
|
ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On November 20 2016 08:38 fusefuse wrote: either that or picking up one of the better GT3/GT3e iGPU equipped intels and then picking up a dedicated gpu later on I've been running my broadwell i5-5675c (aircooled, clocked to 4.0ghz in a tiny case without effort) for my graphics, 3D and light gaming loads very successfully for the past year, still havent felt the need to actually pick up a dedicated GFX card. Dota & CS:GO will easily go 100fps+ on it, Civ6 runs fine and Overwatch would probably play at ~40-60fps at med settings. Which is a considerable upgrade from a 5 year old laptop anyway (somewhat similar to the upgrade I had) My total build cost was around 900€ with a 1080p IPS monitor, you can probably cut 100-200€ from there with HDD & case choices You can see my build here, I only recently upgraded it with more ram while DDR3 is still common (DDR4 is already at times cheaper) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=11015&topic_id=426532 Problem is he needs windows. As for the i5 it's definitely a good and slightly cheaper option, but it will perform way worse than an i3+1050. Really depends on how soon he's willing to upgrade | ||
|
z0rz
United States350 Posts
On November 20 2016 06:25 Craton wrote: Going 3840x2160 gaming on high settings AAA games means you need the absolute best graphics (like GTX Titan X Pascal or dual GTX 1080s). You're rendering 8,294,400 pixels instead of 2,073,600 (it scales fairly linearly), so it's literally 4x the load of 1920x1080. That's gonna run you like $500 for the monitor and $1200 for graphics card(s), leaving you ~$300 for everything else (CPU, motherboard, PSU, etc.). I'm not actually sure what the power load of a Titan X Pascal is, but I'd guess a 650W is probably enough. In theory, you could afford a new monitor and graphics card and go with that if you really wanted to. I've found gaming >1080p to be incredibly underwhelming. For some FPS games some people swear by high FPS monitors (1080p@144hz), while other people can't tell the difference or don't find it meaningful. For non-FPS games the value drops off. In either event, you need to actually be able to render at that high of a framerate. Having a 144hz monitor while rendering at only 80fps doesn't do you much good. You don't need the full 144fps to notice a world of difference. I hover around 80-90fps in dense towns in Skyrim, tried locking the game to 60fps to fix some issues with the physics engine and it was just unbearable. I'm probably more sensitive than others after adjusting to 90+fps for so many years, but I would have guessed I was closer to the 30s with how laggy and bogged down it felt. Could be some VSync issue, but everything was reporting a solid 60fps with no dips. It's hard to explain just how much the smoothness/fluidity of a 144Hz monitor really improves the experience, but its benefits are definitely not limited to competitive gaming. There's nothing more damaging to immersion than becoming aware of your hardware's limitations while playing - screen tearing, stuttering, input delays, etc. | ||
|
nojok
France15846 Posts
| ||
|
Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/gpu-nvidia/2250 | ||
|
Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
| ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
---- At the lower end AMD has Polaris 11 and 10 (rx460 to rx480) while Nvidia has gp107 and gp106 (1050 to 1060 6GB) AMD stops there while Nvidia released two bigger GPU's as well: gp104 (1070, 1080) and gp102 (branded Titan XP for now; likely 1080ti if competing cards are released) | ||
|
Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
| ||
| ||
