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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-30 09:07:20
October 30 2015 08:42 GMT
#11121
Now im finally in a position to build a PC, this is what im asking


What is your budget?
500-700 would be what id like, somewhere around 6

What is your monitor's native resolution?
goes max to 1280x1024 which is fine with me

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
mostly dota2, really want to play shogun total war 2 too.
around like mediumish settings

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
facebook and stuff

Do you intend to overclock?
no

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?

no
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
nope

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
nah

Would ideally like to order by tomorrow afternoon or morning
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
October 30 2015 09:07 GMT
#11122
On October 30 2015 17:42 arb wrote:
Now im finally in a position to build a PC, this is what im asking


What is your budget?
500-700 would be what id like, somewhere around 6

What is your monitor's native resolution?
goes max to 1280x1024 which is fine with me

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
mostly dota2, really want to play shogun total war 2 too.
around like mediumish settings

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
facebook and stuff

Do you intend to overclock?
no

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?

no
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
nope

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
nah

would like by early morning tbh


This is something i made up really quickly

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150 PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.70 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($175.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $683.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-30 05:06 EDT-0400

Not sure what kind of case you wanted so i just picked one.
And i don't know if the SSD is important to you or not but i gave you one anyways cause everyone appreciates an SSD and i'm not sure if you'll be storing a lot of files or not.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 30 2015 10:42 GMT
#11123
i have a question about the operating system, i know that my very old i think windows 7, can upgrade to windows 10, so there shouldnt be a reason to buy win8.1 right? just go for the cheapest operating system and then get the upgrade to windows10 is that right?
Also im wonder about how to install windows if someone crashs or goes wrong, dont u normally need a disk to do that but there is no physical windows 10 copy or is there idk :/
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
St_Michael
Profile Joined July 2012
United States73 Posts
October 30 2015 15:35 GMT
#11124
On October 30 2015 16:17 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 14:09 St_Michael wrote:
Hello everyone - you guys had helped me previously with building my first PC, and now my brother wants to get into PC games now that he has seen Overwatch, but he only has a xbox. I told him I would make a part list for him, but I wanted to get some help here too. This is what I have got so far. The goal is to create a PC that can play Overwatch and similar games on a 4k screen with high settings, whatever settings are required to take advantage of a 4k screen I guess. I picked out some parts, but I have no idea what to pick for a PSU or graphics card. Also, we want to keep the computer as inexpensive as possible, but while still meeting the desired level of performance to play the games and be an enjoyable user experience, similar to the retina display macs.

Thanks!!!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($205.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($141.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($81.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($80.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($468.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1031.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-30 01:01 EDT-0400


970/980 - 290/290x/390/390x (i think 8GB 390 is the best option of those)

or stronger but more expensive:

980ti / fury / furyX. The regular fury is a bit weaker but available with non-reference models; the fury x has a widespread problem with cards making loud whining noises. I'd recommend a 980ti here

a good 550w PSU is fine for a 6600k + 980ti. Are you intending to do CPU overclock? If so, you need 6600k and a CPU cooler; if not, it's a bit of a waste to get a $142 z107 board


I don't intend to overclock, should I get a different MB? Also, should I get bronze or gold PSU, what is really the difference? I am surprised at how much it costs to create a 4k gaming pc. It is the same price as an iMac, but I always thought Apple was more expensive than PC.
GL to new Liquid LCS team!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-30 16:09:54
October 30 2015 16:01 GMT
#11125
On October 31 2015 00:35 St_Michael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 16:17 Cyro wrote:
On October 30 2015 14:09 St_Michael wrote:
Hello everyone - you guys had helped me previously with building my first PC, and now my brother wants to get into PC games now that he has seen Overwatch, but he only has a xbox. I told him I would make a part list for him, but I wanted to get some help here too. This is what I have got so far. The goal is to create a PC that can play Overwatch and similar games on a 4k screen with high settings, whatever settings are required to take advantage of a 4k screen I guess. I picked out some parts, but I have no idea what to pick for a PSU or graphics card. Also, we want to keep the computer as inexpensive as possible, but while still meeting the desired level of performance to play the games and be an enjoyable user experience, similar to the retina display macs.

Thanks!!!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($205.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($141.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($81.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($80.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($468.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1031.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-30 01:01 EDT-0400


970/980 - 290/290x/390/390x (i think 8GB 390 is the best option of those)

or stronger but more expensive:

980ti / fury / furyX. The regular fury is a bit weaker but available with non-reference models; the fury x has a widespread problem with cards making loud whining noises. I'd recommend a 980ti here

a good 550w PSU is fine for a 6600k + 980ti. Are you intending to do CPU overclock? If so, you need 6600k and a CPU cooler; if not, it's a bit of a waste to get a $142 z107 board


I don't intend to overclock, should I get a different MB? Also, should I get bronze or gold PSU, what is really the difference? I am surprised at how much it costs to create a 4k gaming pc. It is the same price as an iMac, but I always thought Apple was more expensive than PC.


4k is 4x harder than 1080p and iMac's don't even try to be half decent 1080p gaming systems. They target non-graphical workloads.

I don't intend to overclock, should I get a different MB?


you can get cheaper ones, z170 is for overclocking.


Also, should I get bronze or gold PSU, what is really the difference?


That is an efficiency standard but the efficiency rating does not describe the quality of the PSU that well
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2696 Posts
October 30 2015 17:00 GMT
#11126
I'm looking to ram some new parts into my PC.

What is your budget?
~600 CAD

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota/csgo on high/ultra, and I'd like to be able to run fallout 4 at 60fps.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
THERE'S LIFE BEYOND GAMING?

Do you intend to overclock?
nop

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
nop

Do you need an operating system?
nop

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
nop

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I'd love to be able to buy locally in Calgary, Canada, so I'll be looking for any recommendations at local stores here. I'm not big on waiting for shipping.

My current build is :

CPU: Intel Core i3 2130 @ 3.20 GHz
Mainboard: ASUS P8H61-M PLUS r 2.0
RAM: 16 GB corsair DDR3-1333
Graphics: Radeon HD 5750
Power Supply: corsair cx600
SSD: 100 GB hyperX
HDD: 1TB WD caviar green

GPU is in obvious need of an update, and I suspect RAM and CPU could use a sprucing up as well. Gimme some pointers bois!
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 30 2015 18:17 GMT
#11127
Would it make sense to buy an r9 390 8gb for my current build or would I have to upgrade? Cpu is i5-3570k and z77 pro4-m mobo with 8gb ram. I'm looking to be able to run vr games when the rift or vive come out.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-30 20:17:07
October 30 2015 20:11 GMT
#11128
On October 31 2015 02:00 Fleetfeet wrote:
I'm looking to ram some new parts into my PC.

What is your budget?
~600 CAD

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota/csgo on high/ultra, and I'd like to be able to run fallout 4 at 60fps.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
THERE'S LIFE BEYOND GAMING?

Do you intend to overclock?
nop

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
nop

Do you need an operating system?
nop

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
nop

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I'd love to be able to buy locally in Calgary, Canada, so I'll be looking for any recommendations at local stores here. I'm not big on waiting for shipping.

My current build is :

CPU: Intel Core i3 2130 @ 3.20 GHz
Mainboard: ASUS P8H61-M PLUS r 2.0
RAM: 16 GB corsair DDR3-1333
Graphics: Radeon HD 5750
Power Supply: corsair cx600
SSD: 100 GB hyperX
HDD: 1TB WD caviar green

GPU is in obvious need of an update, and I suspect RAM and CPU could use a sprucing up as well. Gimme some pointers bois!


Main priority to upgrade is GPU. The thing with upgrading CPU and RAM is that you will likely need to install a new motherboard which can be a hassle. If you dont want to replace the motherboard, upgrading the ssd and gpu is what i would recommend. For GPU, id suggest a gtx 970 or a r9 390. If you go replacing the mobo and cpu, itll cost a lot more.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2696 Posts
October 30 2015 23:44 GMT
#11129
On October 31 2015 05:11 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2015 02:00 Fleetfeet wrote:
I'm looking to ram some new parts into my PC.

What is your budget?
~600 CAD

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota/csgo on high/ultra, and I'd like to be able to run fallout 4 at 60fps.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
THERE'S LIFE BEYOND GAMING?

Do you intend to overclock?
nop

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
nop

Do you need an operating system?
nop

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
nop

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I'd love to be able to buy locally in Calgary, Canada, so I'll be looking for any recommendations at local stores here. I'm not big on waiting for shipping.

My current build is :

CPU: Intel Core i3 2130 @ 3.20 GHz
Mainboard: ASUS P8H61-M PLUS r 2.0
RAM: 16 GB corsair DDR3-1333
Graphics: Radeon HD 5750
Power Supply: corsair cx600
SSD: 100 GB hyperX
HDD: 1TB WD caviar green

GPU is in obvious need of an update, and I suspect RAM and CPU could use a sprucing up as well. Gimme some pointers bois!


Main priority to upgrade is GPU. The thing with upgrading CPU and RAM is that you will likely need to install a new motherboard which can be a hassle. If you dont want to replace the motherboard, upgrading the ssd and gpu is what i would recommend. For GPU, id suggest a gtx 970 or a r9 390. If you go replacing the mobo and cpu, itll cost a lot more.


I'd like to get to an i5 6500 processor, and a little research seems to suggest I'd need an intel 1151 board (my current board is an 1155) in order to support that... that'd be around ~300 bucks for the processor and ~120 for the board. If it's something I'll have to do anyways to be able to run current-gen games on my PC, I might as well fork over for the upgrades, and I think I can manage 750 bucks to bring my PC up to speed.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
October 31 2015 16:48 GMT
#11130
Wanna slightly upgrade my PC to get better streaming options

MSI H81M-E33 Socket 1150
Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz (3mb, Haswell, 54W, S1150)
GF GTX650 1Gb GDDR5 MSI (N650-1GD5/OC v1)
DDR3 2x4GB 1600MHz Team Xtreem Vulcan Orange, 9-9-9-24
Aerocool Strike X 500 500W 80+ (PSU)
HDD SATA 500Gb WD, 16Mb Caviar Blue

Switching my i3 to i5 is going to solve it? Or I should pick another GPU as well?
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 31 2015 16:58 GMT
#11131
An i5 would definitely serve you better for streaming. If you get an i5-4670 you can upgrade eyes closed, if you get an i5-4690, make sure that your BIOS is up to date.

Your GPU is a bit weak but if you're streaming something like SC2 it shouldn't pose any problem in particular.
maru lover forever
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 17:44:17
October 31 2015 17:43 GMT
#11132
On November 01 2015 01:58 Incognoto wrote:
An i5 would definitely serve you better for streaming. If you get an i5-4670 you can upgrade eyes closed, if you get an i5-4690, make sure that your BIOS is up to date.

Your GPU is a bit weak but if you're streaming something like SC2 it shouldn't pose any problem in particular.


thanks for feedback

i'll make my upgrade in two steps:
1) CPU
2) GPU if needed for something "stronger" than sc2, for example MKX
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 01 2015 14:06 GMT
#11133
My friend told me to get thermal paste
what do i do with thermal paste
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
November 01 2015 19:38 GMT
#11134
On November 01 2015 23:06 arb wrote:
My friend told me to get thermal paste
what do i do with thermal paste

Put it on your CPU so it can act as a conductor to whatever cooler you have (it helps eliminate any mini air pockets which act as insulators).
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
November 02 2015 05:39 GMT
#11135
Moving to the US and want to build a new PC after I arrive.
Not used to shopping with these US sites so asking for help on this build.

Had a quick stab at a build but don't feel very confident in it.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/McVX6h

What is your budget?
USD$1500-2000

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080. Looking to 120+Hz for new monitor.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota2 / CSGO on high. Maybe looking at SFV at 60fps

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Very casual streaming to friends and occasional virtual machine

Do you intend to overclock?
No

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No

Do you need an operating system?
Yes

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Yes. Will need to fit in under the budget.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Prefer Intel/Nvidia

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Preferably mostly from newegg. Don't want to complicate it by using too many suppliers.

Other comments
  • Should I wait for Thanksgiving/Black Friday sales?
  • If I was looking to push it down closer to $1500 what would i be best off cutting back. I imagine ram first.
  • I liked my Nanoxia Deep Silence but it doesn't appear to exist anymore. Any recommendations aside from the Fractal?


My current PC for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/137554-computer-build-resource-thread?page=1623#32445
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 17:05:12
November 03 2015 13:43 GMT
#11136
I need some airflow advice here. I am currently considering some odd airflow setup for CM HAF XB case, which will potentially house i5-6500 and R9 380. Seeing how open this case is, with a lot of honeycomb/mesh panel, I am thinking of going completely without exhaust fan. With 2x80mm back intake in the bottom chamber to cool the hdd, then in the top chamber will have 2x140mm front intake, 1x120mm back intake together with some upward cpu air cooler (an example is intel stock cooler or Noctua NH-C14S). I hope the positive air pressure together with CPU cooler will direct all the hot air to passively exhaust through the top mesh/honeycomb panel. Not sure if front+back intake will starve the GPU off fresh air somehow though? Thanks
ELqQQT_T
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 03 2015 17:47 GMT
#11137
Will probably not use NCIX anymore when i order anything
last time i called them because of an order issue she fixed it and said everything had shipped
been tracking my packages except cant track theirs bc the fucking website doesnt work
never got an invoice saying my order status, finally comes up today to..

"partially shipped"
oh hell no, called them and raised an unholy shitstorm on the phone because im not getting what i paid for in terms of shipping, suddenly emails out the ass about my tracking number and everything
they will get an even worse ear full if its not here on time too

absolutely ridiculous
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
November 03 2015 22:08 GMT
#11138
My mom is looking to buy a new computer. Is this a reasonable deal or should I try and put one together.
Just for general browsing and video watching. Pretty sure less would work, but she likes the deal.


in case First page questions
+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
4-600$

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
nothing

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
browsing/video watching

Do you intend to overclock?
no

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?
no

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
If building might as well throw in a small ssd.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.free shipping doesn't hurt
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23902 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 22:17:55
November 03 2015 22:17 GMT
#11139
On November 04 2015 07:08 evantrees wrote:
My mom is looking to buy a new computer. Is this a reasonable deal or should I try and put one together.
Just for general browsing and video watching. Pretty sure less would work, but she likes the deal.


in case First page questions
+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
4-600$

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
nothing

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
browsing/video watching

Do you intend to overclock?
no

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no

Do you need an operating system?
no

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
If building might as well throw in a small ssd.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.free shipping doesn't hurt


Just noticed it says 12 GB of ram in 2 places and 16 in one. 16GB (or 12GB) of ram for typical mom usage seems excessive. Could probably find something about $50-100 cheaper without custom building and just as functional. *(not a resident expert)

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
November 03 2015 22:22 GMT
#11140
You could go cheaper but yes, that is definitely sufficient, the A10 is a capable enough APU to handle all that, and the deal seems fine indeed since its convenient.


(12GB can come in handy for them browser mem leaks :3) but in all honesty will last her years at this rate.
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