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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 12:07:35
September 26 2015 12:03 GMT
#10921
Is probably pretty good, i still wanted a g1 @ launch reviews for good performance without getting into the super premium price range - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_980_ti_g1_gaming_soc_review,10.html - a lot of them will be about the same, it's good to listen to several different coolers on youtube and check fan speed ranges to find something that you like the sound of

Which airflow focused case(s) would you recommend, with quietness not being a factor? The case size doesn't matter to me, provided I can fit the mobo and everything else in


I picked an air540 for that reason and it's been pretty good, maybe not great design for 2 GPU's though.
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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 26 2015 16:51 GMT
#10922
Since I destroyed my ankle yesterday(sports are fun and healthy! ) I have now more time to spend with Google and I found some reviews of the OC Gainward 970 with general 970 in the graph as well and found out it is around 6-10 watts more demanding than general 970(in full load). So I will check my space in case and replace the 660 TI with Phantom version. Thanks to all of you!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 21:26:35
September 26 2015 21:15 GMT
#10923
So, if I build a new computer, what is the easiest way of setting it up so that windows is installed on an SSD ?


picking all this stuff is hard
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
September 26 2015 21:40 GMT
#10924
What is your budget?
$1,600

What is your monitor's native resolution?

1920x1080..Not sure if last number it entirely correct.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?

New games (Some not out yet, max setting everything, while streaming

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?

Some statistical analysis programs like MatLab etc.

Do you intend to overclock?

I will likely OC my CPU at some point since I am familiar with how to do it.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?

No

Do you need an operating system?

No

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
None

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA--Online

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.

Whatever is cheapest.




I was looking at these components (sorry for awful links) but I don't know if I screwed anything up.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125806

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152058

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233536



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157505

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF1H68919&ignorebbr=1


I already have a pretty large case so that won't be needed. Is there anything I should swap out in favor of something better? Honestly I am just looking for the best performance/price ratio (But obviously on the high end of the spectrum).

<3 Moonbattles
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 26 2015 22:05 GMT
#10925
ok this is what I have put together (i have no idea what i am doing pls help)


HDD:

WD Blue 1TB Desktop 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200rpm Internal Hard Drive

SSD:

Crucial BX100 500GB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive - CT500BX100SSD1

ram:

Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB Kit (2x4GB) 1600MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM - Black (HX316C10FBK2/​8)

motherboard:

ASUS Z97-A ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Motherboards Z97-A

processor:

Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I54690K

vid card:

Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 4GB GDDR5 DVI-I/DVI-D/HD​MI/DP Dual-X with Boost and OC version PCI-Express Graphics Card 11217-04-20G


case:

Fractal Design Define S Gaming Case with Window FD-CA-DEF-S-BK​-W

power supply:

Sentey® Power Supply 725w Xpp725-hs / Computer Power Supply ATX / 140mm Fan Sleeve Bearing / 48ampers / 5 Sata / 2 Pci-e 6-2 / SLI Ready / Crossfire Ready / 115-230 Voltage / Power Cord / 3 Years Warranty

heatsink:

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-​R2)




will these things all work well together? total price is just a little over 1k
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 23:01:50
September 26 2015 23:00 GMT
#10926
On September 27 2015 06:15 travis wrote:
So, if I build a new computer, what is the easiest way of setting it up so that windows is installed on an SSD ?


picking all this stuff is hard


To be 100% sure everything is on SSD you can just physically unplug or disable the HDD in bios until windows is installed

@ travis your cpu/mobo/RAM is last gen. 6600k/z170/ddr4
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 26 2015 23:05 GMT
#10927
On September 27 2015 08:00 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2015 06:15 travis wrote:
So, if I build a new computer, what is the easiest way of setting it up so that windows is installed on an SSD ?


picking all this stuff is hard


To be 100% sure everything is on SSD you can just physically unplug or disable the HDD in bios until windows is installed

@ travis your cpu/mobo/RAM is last gen. 6600k/z170/ddr4


is that a problem? won't the new generation of stuff be much more expensive?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 23:13:51
September 26 2015 23:10 GMT
#10928
On September 27 2015 08:05 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2015 08:00 Cyro wrote:
On September 27 2015 06:15 travis wrote:
So, if I build a new computer, what is the easiest way of setting it up so that windows is installed on an SSD ?


picking all this stuff is hard


To be 100% sure everything is on SSD you can just physically unplug or disable the HDD in bios until windows is installed

@ travis your cpu/mobo/RAM is last gen. 6600k/z170/ddr4


is that a problem? won't the new generation of stuff be much more expensive?


Not really since intel doesn't lower previous gen CPU prices, ddr4 prices have dropped a lot in the last ~1.5 years (so 3000c15, 3200c16 is easily available). It would probably be a bit more expensive anyway but offset by increased performance, roughly equivelant to a 5ghz Haswell CPU by 4.5ghz and a bit more consistent + easier overclocking and lower temperatures.

Skylake hasn't finished launching yet so there are only overclocking parts available, if you wanted stock speed and no tweaking then last gen would be cheaper.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 26 2015 23:12 GMT
#10929
hmmm ok ill shop for the current gen stuff thanks
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
September 27 2015 09:31 GMT
#10930
New games (Some not out yet, max setting everything, while streaming


Isn't r9 270x a bit weak for this? Especially at 1080p.
Age of Mythology forever!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 27 2015 10:10 GMT
#10931
270x is rebranded GPU from 3 and a half years ago, it was the 7870.

Here's bench of current gen flagships against 7970 (a considerably stronger GPU)
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1495?vs=1496
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 27 2015 11:34 GMT
#10932
On September 27 2015 19:10 Cyro wrote:
270x is rebranded GPU from 3 and a half years ago, it was the 7870.

Here's bench of current gen flagships against 7970 (a considerably stronger GPU)
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1495?vs=1496


Why would you even compare the 270x with current gen flagships? If he was going to buy a current gen flagship he would obviously not have even considered a 270x. I think it is better to contrast it to something like a 750 ti or 370 which are in the same ballpark in terms of budget. Or suggest balancing his selections to accommodate current mid-range staples like the 970/290/390 etc.

But comparing it to a 980ti makes zero sense to me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 27 2015 11:48 GMT
#10933
He said "New games (Some not out yet, max setting everything, while streaming"

The 270X is going to fall short of that, considering that the 7970 has a hard time doing that itself.


I wouldn't go for current gen flagships but stuff like R9 390 or GTX 970 should do nicely. You'll need to re-allocate budget for that.
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 12:41:22
September 27 2015 12:38 GMT
#10934
Even those cards are twice as fast
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 27 2015 13:39 GMT
#10935
Is it normal that M.2 SSDs run scorching hot?

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Samsung-XP941-Plextor-PX-G256-M6e-M-2-Qualification-575/

I was wondering about them. Maybe it's better off to stick with sata SSDs? :o
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 27 2015 17:33 GMT
#10936
Some stuff runs crazy hot especially when there is not a temp sensor on it. There are some GPU's out there with 100c VRM's at stock simply because they don't have proper heatsink contact like the xfx 290.

m.2 ssd's are rather tiny and pci-e ssd's are bigger but have huge performance and power draw. They get to be like 30 watts and only have a small heatsink on them so they can overheat with high loads - 2200MB/s and 300k read IOPS is huge
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 27 2015 17:50 GMT
#10937
Quick question!

I bought, earlier, a box of network cable (70 meters) and have used all the connectors that came with it.

Now, the cable is rated Cat6. I was wondering, if I want to buy more connectors, are there any differences between the crimp connectors (Some crimp connectors are marked as cat5e, cat5, cat 6....)?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 27 2015 18:44 GMT
#10938
On September 28 2015 02:33 Cyro wrote:
Some stuff runs crazy hot especially when there is not a temp sensor on it. There are some GPU's out there with 100c VRM's at stock simply because they don't have proper heatsink contact like the xfx 290.

m.2 ssd's are rather tiny and pci-e ssd's are bigger but have huge performance and power draw. They get to be like 30 watts and only have a small heatsink on them so they can overheat with high loads - 2200MB/s and 300k read IOPS is huge

yeah but that can't be good

was thinking of maybe picking an m.2 ssd if it were "worth it" but the heat is kind of a turn off :p
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 19:52:00
September 27 2015 19:42 GMT
#10939
On September 28 2015 03:44 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 02:33 Cyro wrote:
Some stuff runs crazy hot especially when there is not a temp sensor on it. There are some GPU's out there with 100c VRM's at stock simply because they don't have proper heatsink contact like the xfx 290.

m.2 ssd's are rather tiny and pci-e ssd's are bigger but have huge performance and power draw. They get to be like 30 watts and only have a small heatsink on them so they can overheat with high loads - 2200MB/s and 300k read IOPS is huge

yeah but that can't be good

was thinking of maybe picking an m.2 ssd if it were "worth it" but the heat is kind of a turn off :p


m.2 is for form factor. Those ssd's still have 100k iops just like a regular 2.5" sata 3.0 ssd - it's the NVME drives that are interesting, they get ~300k IOPS (and usually ~4x faster reads rather than just 2x)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-29 02:09:46
September 29 2015 01:52 GMT
#10940
Cryorig just released a pretty cool new cooler (lol)
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2mm taller than intel stock heatsink, 4 heatpipes, doesn't cover RAM, fan goes up to 2500RPM

$29.99 / €29.99

seems pretty nice! Curious to see benchmark results

https://www.techpowerup.com/215871/cryorig-releases-the-c7-ultra-compact-cooler.html

http://i.imgur.com/DfROAKS.jpg

---

sorry for those build requests that i have not commented on, i'm mostly focusing on myself recently (new hardware) and doing some other stuff + i don't know the right hardware for much stuff non-gaming

on both of those subjects actually, my RAM did not fit under my silver arrow properly. My old ddr3 RAM was samsung green (very small sticks) and i got some of these now:
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The cooler itself doesn't block them but i had to lift the first intake fan by a lot (to the point where it's the tallest thing in the case, potentially blocking case side on some smaller cases) in order to fit the RAM under in either of the first 2 slots (at least one of them required for dual channel)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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