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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
Now I'm gonna get an i3 but I don't know if it's better to wait for Skylake and get a Skylake i3. I suppose there will be Skylake i3's? Will they be in similar price range with current i3's (while being better)? Since I also don't have a mobo and with Skylake, 1150 socket will change to 1151, so there's that issue too. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20297 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On May 02 2015 18:42 Boblion wrote: + Show Spoiler + What is your current build? Salvageable parts (?) 2x2 Gb DDR3 G.Skill PC12800 1600MHz (Probably better to just buy 2x4 Gb with higher Hz i guess ? DDR4 worth it atm ?) WD Caviar Blue 640 Gb 7200t/min Corsair HX520W Xigmatek Midgard Samsung P2350 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1080p Can probably add a new one tho. Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade? Proc outdated (Athlon II x4 620), dead-end motherboard, GPU dead. I want to play HoN, Sc2, some shooters with good quality and framerate. Need an OS since i don't have access to MSDNAA anymore. An SSD would be a huge upgrade too. Don't know if i will bother about OC. Not Interested in SLI / CrossFire. What is your budget? Around 1000E but it is more expensive in my country. I just want the best bang for bucks. Don't want to pay premium price for a slight % of extra performance. What country will you be buying your parts in? France. Can my HX520W handle this ? (bolded new stuff) PNY GeForce GTX 970 i5 4690k (+ rad). Asus Z97-K Crucial - SSD MX200 250 Gb WD Caviar Blue 640 Gb 7200t/min 2x2 Gb + 8 Gb PC12800 1600MHz (idk about brand). Windows 7 or 8 for OS ? Any idea for the rad ? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20297 Posts
probably fine at overclocks but i'm not 100% sure without knowing the psu model not worth a good CLC for i5 IMO. If you care about the last 100-200mhz (~2-5%) then it's probably more cost efficient to sell and buy skylake  you really dont need the high end air cooler or clc on devil's canyon i5 for a ~1.3 - 1.35v OC. It's a bit different for i7 because HT makes it run at 90c with the same voltage that i5 would run at ~77-80c on, if you're using the extra threads | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20297 Posts
2*2 + 8GB is not ideal RAM config btw. You'd have 8GB of RAM in dual channel and 4GB in single (and you'd have to make sure to put them in the right slots to achieve that) | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If it still works, it should be fine. It's certainly built to last ten years or so, being high end for the time and still more than respectable today (other than the efficiency). I'd probably trust an HX520 from 2006 more than an original CX500 from 2010 or whenever that was. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23271 Posts
What is your budget? $1,000-$1,500 it can go up I just need a good explanation why. What is your monitor's native resolution? Will need a monitor 1080p is sufficient. What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Primarily a work station What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? It will be a studio PC mostly for Recording audio and editing some video occasionally. Do you intend to overclock? If it makes sense, but stability is a primary focus so unlikely. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? If there is a good reason Do you need an operating system? Probably Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Yes I need a monitor, yes it's part of the $1,500 If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. I'd like the option for more than 2 displays at a time A likely config will be two monitors and a TV above. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. New Egg, Tiger Direct, though others are acceptable. It's been a while since I built my PC so I'm also curious if I gave him an accurate estimate (was including a single monitor) for what he needed. He's got someone else in his ear saying upwards of $2,500 and I felt like that would be a huge overbuild (he's not tight for funds but is a thrifty person) I don't doubt a $2,500 rig would do what he needed just not sure it's worth the extra money. Anyone familiar with how much a video card plays a role in something like Pro tools or Reason? | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
I've got 10.4 GB in use right now and I don't have much more than a few browsers and some minor programs open (I've got a few dev services running too, but not actively used). | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On May 08 2015 10:51 Craton wrote: Is it causing you problems? It just being in use isn't exactly an issue; Windows will make use of it if it's free to help performance in various ways. I've got 10.4 GB in use right now and I don't have much more than a few browsers and some minor programs open (I've got a few dev services running too, but not actively used). I don't know, to be honest. I've been having problems in browser recently where things are slow (while typing this, the text field is stuttering when I type things in), but it has just recently started happening. With anything, when something out of the ordinary starts happening, one should worry. I'm using about 3.5 - 5 gb of RAM, if I were to guess the amount with actually adding it up. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Time for a new monitor. I've decided to go for 1080p144 TN (there are some nice ASUS IPS monitors at work, but after seeing it live I've decided that IPS isn't all THAT much better than TN. viewing angles are sick but idc about that). I'm too wary of French customs to get a Korean panel (+ it's lottery in terms of overclock refresh rate). I'm hesitating between the LG 24GM77 and the BenQ XL2411Z. They seem to be equivalent in terms of price and features. Thoughts? By the looks of it, BenQ has strobe whereas LG has Motion 240, but that M240 doesn't work at 144 Hz, only 120. Leaning towards BenQ. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20297 Posts
You're not getting gsync? TBH i'm not enjoying strobing that much. It's good for those FPS games where you can keep constant high FPS, particularly at a framerate that you can control - but the only one i can really name there right now is CS:GO. It's good for fast scrolling 2d games - this stuff + Show Spoiler + ------ AMD is claiming 40% IPC gains over -excavator- for Zen, so stuff will be interesting if they drop a 6 core. I don't think it'll be as fast as Skylake for one thread, but if they're jumping 40% over excavator (like what, 60% over piledriver?) then Intel might have to think twice about the 4 core mainstream arbitrary rule :D then again, they said a lot of wild stuff about bulldozer before launch, including some employees in forum posts making statements that were literally wrong and not open to interpretation | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I'm actually going to "boycott" variable refresh rates until they both (amd / nvidia) get on the same page. I don't want to have my next GPU being chosen with the monitor I buy. ~ especially since i've fixed a €300 budget (including shipping) and gsync is really expensive. free-sync isn't out yet. i want to try 144Hz, it's good for the games i'm playing (sc2, age of empires 3, random games which are blasting away at way more than 60 fps). i feel like it's time to see what higher refresh rates are the other option i've been looking at is a cheap acer 144 hz http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00IG0Z0HY/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0PQQZJ1G46HC3XEET7JA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455673027&pf_rd_i=405320 but i'm not sure how good strobing is maybe it's unnecessary. either way i'm going to ask around / research before buying anything | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20297 Posts
For sc2, IDK how good gsync would be, need to see it. I've looked a little bit more at the performance recently though + Show Spoiler + tl;dr there is a tick rate for simulation, ~22hz on HOTS fastest game speed (maybe 25hz on LOTV). Every time that happens (~22-25 times per second) there is X amount of milliseconds added onto the next frame time, because the CPU processes the tick before the next frame and not in parallel with it. The data is there for you to tell the difference between 100fps and 140fps on a 60hz monitor because those tick frames are so much slower than the other frames. They can easily take 2-3x as long as the non-tick frames (so you'd need FPS a fair amount over double refresh rate to maintain a Vsync in any kind of usable way, or never display part of the same frame twice which is visibly seen as minor lag/stuttering) | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:16 Cyro wrote: should be fine i think, 480w of 12v with max 216w per rail (it's modular, so you probably have 1 rail for CPU and the other 2 for the pci-e power connectors? IDK) 2*2 + 8GB is not ideal RAM config btw. You'd have 8GB of RAM in dual channel and 4GB in single (and you'd have to make sure to put them in the right slots to achieve that) On May 08 2015 02:38 Myrmidon wrote: I forget when they stopped selling the HX520, but that's a model from at least 2006 or so, as part of Corsair's original lineup of power supplies, IIRC. If it still works, it should be fine. It's certainly built to last ten years or so, being high end for the time and still more than respectable today (other than the efficiency). I'd probably trust an HX520 from 2006 more than an original CX500 from 2010 or whenever that was. Okay, thanks for the advice guys. If i remember correctly the CX520 i bought circa 2007 was a rebranded Seasonic and was indeed kinda high end at the time. I will just pick 4x4Gb or 2x8Gb for the ram. Any idea about the OS ? W7 or W8 ? I had W7 pro but i can't get it for free anymore... lucky students  | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20297 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
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