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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
But if you have to buy some now, I would consider Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2800 16GB kit for $300. 2800Mhz and only 1.2v means it should OC well once you put 1.35v to it. I would stay away from entry speeds (2133/2400) just cuz'. The price you pay for new technology...T.T | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
They don't want another ddr3 oversupply into price collapse and selling at a loss, as awesome as it was to pick up some samsung greens 2x4gb for $35 and run them at 2200c9@~1.55v  | ||
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VasVas87
6 Posts
On October 23 2014 18:43 Cyro wrote: http://www.kitguru.net/components/memory/anton-shilov/samsung-does-not-expect-computer-memory-prices-to-drop-next-year/ They don't want another ddr3 oversupply into price collapse and selling at a loss, as awesome as it was to pick up some samsung greens 2x4gb for $35 and run them at 2200c9@~1.55v Sorrry what are "samsung greens"? Seem very cheap for 8gb of ram. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
biggest problem as said i think, If you buy it for cheap, you'll have a pretty cheap cooler and mobo. Even if it made sense to upgrade to an fx8320 - which would increase multithreaded performance by 1/3'rd, but not help the 2009-era singlethreaded performance - then you might not have the parts to back that up with a budget fx6300 build that makes sense depending on the games you want to run, if you can't afford i5 without big compromises in your build then pentium g3258 (or more expensive i3, if you don't want to OC the g3258) vs fx6300 is a pretty good question | ||
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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VasVas87
6 Posts
Im looking for a capture card that can pass through best uncompressed 1080p video quality to a second streaming pc. it should be a PCI card (possibly without a build in encoder as i don't need it..) So far i have only found live gamer hd lite and Blackmagic pro. Are these my only options or have i missed something? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
It's a pretty good cheap general purpose CPU, you just need to be aware of the stuff that it's not good at. I've been in 4-5 game communities in the last 3 years or so where a lot of people have bought bulldozer CPU's, tried to run a CPU intensive game that can't scale well onto many cores (most significantly, sc2, guild wars 2 and Wildstar) and then had a lot of problems, complaints etc - but at low budget, you have to make compromises no matter what, it's just good to be aware of which ones you are making. The Pentiums/i3 are good with small numbers of threads, but weak vs fx6300 etc with 5-6+ - fx6300 is pretty good and the best for the money when you use the threads it has, but can be bad if they can't be utilized. It's a solid choice for an ok CPU if you do plan to use it On October 23 2014 21:15 VasVas87 wrote: Any capture card "specialists" in here? Im looking for a capture card that can pass through best uncompressed 1080p video quality to a second streaming pc. it should be a PCI card (possibly without a build in encoder as i don't need it..) So far i have only found live gamer hd lite and Blackmagic pro. Are these my only options or have i missed something? Dunno sorry. I don't think many people here know much about capture cards, try the forums over at www.obsproject.com | ||
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0nega
Germany29 Posts
I just broke my laptop and since I don't need a mobile pc anymore I'd like to try to build my own , so using the template: What is your budget? ca. 900 € What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? BW, SC2, Dota on reasonably high settings and the occasional rpg rts that comes out in the next years What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? I'd like to use my pc to watch movies to not spend money on a big tv and bd-player Otherwise just the usual browsing, writing. Do you intend to overclock? No Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? No, I get one form my university Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No, I have monitor, mouse etc If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Unless there is a good reason not to use a pc for watching bd's I'd need an optical drive that plays blu-rays What country will you be buying your parts in? Germany If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Mindfactory doesn't charge you delivery costs if you order after midnight, which makes it preferably unless it's way more expensive or doesn't have stuff Using the OP and looking for reviews I came up with this: CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 191,90 € GPU: Geforce GTX 760 183,85 € Mainboard: ASRock H97 Pro4 74,85 € SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 147,35 € HDD: WD Blue 1TB 47,06 € RAM: Crucial 2x4GB 62,55 € PSU: Corsair CS550M 59,85 € Case: Fractal Design Core 3300 61,77 € Optical Drive: LG BH16NS40 63,45 € This adds up to 892,63 € which is quite good. Some Justifications: Overall I don't upgrade often so I most likely will stick to the configuration I buy for at least 5 years. I chose the Corsair PSU cause it's semi-modular and apparently has decent efficiency, but I know nothing of PSUs. The case also had some decent reviews and good cablemanagement so in combination with the modular PSU it should be easier to build the pc since it's my first time? I am not convinced whether it's a good idea to buy a blu-ray-burner but I actually like watching movies on my 23' screen and don't really wanna spend a lot of extra money on a tv + blu-ray-player just to be able to buy blu-ray-movies. So if anyone has recommendations to improve this build or not waste money on useless stuff or maybe some stuff doesn't even work with each other, I'd be happy to get replies. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/450-Watt-XFX-Core-Edition-V2-Non-Modular-80--Bronze_759250.html If you still want modular PSU, I think I like the Cooler Master G550M more than the Corsair CS550M. €53 instead of €60, 5 year warranty and it performs decently enough (source). http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-CoolerMaster-G550M-Modular_937512.html For the SSD, you don't really need PRO SSD from Samsung, those are overpriced for daily usage. The MX100 from Crucial is much cheaper and serves the same purpose. http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/256GB-Crucial-MX100-2-5Zoll--6-4cm--SATA-6Gb-s-MLC--CT256MX100SSD1-_964957.html Not sure about blu-ray my own thoughts on GPU / reallocating budget: + Show Spoiler + That GPU is fine for the kind of usage you're describing however if you want to keep your rig for 5 years, maybe you put more money into the GPU. I know I would, though this is personal preference; I'm someone who thinks most of the budget of a gaming rig should go to GPU and after that the CPU. A GTX 970 is one of the nicer cards to get at the moment. If you want to shave off € on the other parts to get such a card, it's possible. You do it by getting quality budget parts on the Case, PSU and motherboard. You also get Haswell instead of Haswell refresh. the system you end up getting performs pretty much the same as the one you posted. the main difference is that this budget rig is much less flexible in terms of upgrades than the rig you have. oh and you lose the blu-ray drive as well, which kind of sucks. forgot about that. http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4096MB-MSI-GeForce-GTX-970-Gaming-4G-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_976948.html http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/JLxJNG | ||
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Kyenc
United Kingdom4 Posts
Tryna build a rig in the UK. Working around my budget I got to the list below. Any feedback or advise will be much appreciated. The machine will be used to play games such as Dota2(mostly), Battlefield, Skyrim etc and some modest 3D modelling. CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£174.99) CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£38.54) Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£107.76) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£71.15) Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.39) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (£289.64) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.59) Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.93) Thank you in advance all ! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On October 24 2014 05:18 Kyenc wrote: Hi guys, Tryna build a rig in the UK. Working around my budget I got to the list below. Any feedback or advise will be much appreciated. The machine will be used to play games such as Dota2(mostly), Battlefield, Skyrim etc and some modest 3D modelling. CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£174.99) CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£38.54) Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£107.76) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£71.15) Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.39) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (£289.64) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.59) Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.93) Thank you in advance all ! consider the z97x-gaming 5 (gigabyte, ~£105) - it has better vrm, probably some other differences that may or may not matter to you strix < msi gaming < gigabyte g1 for 970's. The MSI gaming shouldn't be more expensive though, while the g1 usually is. I got mine for £280 including shipped next day delivery, but i don't think you can get quite that cheap any more http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-003-SF ^this is much better, 450w one is awkwardly priced and out of stock but 550 for £3 extra (over xfx) if you buy other stuff from ocuk is worth. Alternatively £60 650w version for 970 sli potential. You can do it with a good 550w unit, but not with everything at max overclocks or without using molex to 6-pins etc | ||
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rolando
United States82 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On October 24 2014 10:05 rolando wrote: Plz tell me if this build is good for a micro ITX based build. + Show Spoiler + assuming you have a plan for ram it looks good. | ||
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rolando
United States82 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On October 24 2014 11:08 rolando wrote: my friend is giving me RAM for cheap so I got that covered. Also I have an SSD already good to go then (man, so tired didn't even notice the lack of hdd) | ||
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Intact
Sweden634 Posts
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw14/2014/10/23/watch-intels-kitchen-here/ Essentially the master chef of pc building | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On October 24 2014 03:56 Incognoto wrote: my own thoughts on GPU / reallocating budget: + Show Spoiler + That GPU is fine for the kind of usage you're describing however if you want to keep your rig for 5 years, maybe you put more money into the GPU. I know I would, though this is personal preference; I'm someone who thinks most of the budget of a gaming rig should go to GPU and after that the CPU. A GTX 970 is one of the nicer cards to get at the moment. If you want to shave off € on the other parts to get such a card, it's possible. You do it by getting quality budget parts on the Case, PSU and motherboard. You also get Haswell instead of Haswell refresh. the system you end up getting performs pretty much the same as the one you posted. the main difference is that this budget rig is much less flexible in terms of upgrades than the rig you have. oh and you lose the blu-ray drive as well, which kind of sucks. forgot about that. http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4096MB-MSI-GeForce-GTX-970-Gaming-4G-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_976948.html http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/JLxJNG Just to provide another opinion... (from someone cheap). Doubling your GPU budget just so it lasts longer makes little sense. IMO the GPU is the easiest thing to replace and upgrade. The most likely scenario (and how it's worked out for me in the past) is to buy something "decent" (like the 760 you're looking at) and if you end up needing to upgrade at any point you also have something that can easily transfer to your next build. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
Thanks for all the help! | ||
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