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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 15 2014 17:21 GMT
#6381
On June 16 2014 01:58 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 09:25 Jer99 wrote:Updated again, here it is

+ Show Spoiler +
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/kLjRgs

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $245.00

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler $84.99

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $134.99 (-$20.00) $114.99

Memory: A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $79.99

Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $79.99

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card $374.99 (-$15.00) $359.99

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $58.02

Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $84.05

Base Total: $1127.96
Mail-in Rebates: -$35.00
Shipping: $14.06
Total: $1107.02



I think it's better to go with a Noctua NH-U14S for ~$70 and a Fractal Design Define R4 for ~$70 / Corsair Carbide 300R for ~$65.

Rosewill Capstone 450 for $85... not worth it. EVGA SuperNova G2 700w is like $15 more (and basically same price or even less expensive after mail in rebate). XFX XTR 550 is also $90 but that's been out of stock forever.

what's the point of paying extra for a 700w PSU when you're not going to be using that extra power? the very slim odds that he'll choose to SLI at some point in the future and still be able to use that PSU?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 15 2014 17:37 GMT
#6382
On June 16 2014 02:21 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 01:58 skyR wrote:
On June 15 2014 09:25 Jer99 wrote:Updated again, here it is

+ Show Spoiler +
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/kLjRgs

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $245.00

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler $84.99

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $134.99 (-$20.00) $114.99

Memory: A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $79.99

Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $79.99

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card $374.99 (-$15.00) $359.99

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $58.02

Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $84.05

Base Total: $1127.96
Mail-in Rebates: -$35.00
Shipping: $14.06
Total: $1107.02



I think it's better to go with a Noctua NH-U14S for ~$70 and a Fractal Design Define R4 for ~$70 / Corsair Carbide 300R for ~$65.

Rosewill Capstone 450 for $85... not worth it. EVGA SuperNova G2 700w is like $15 more (and basically same price or even less expensive after mail in rebate). XFX XTR 550 is also $90 but that's been out of stock forever.

what's the point of paying extra for a 700w PSU when you're not going to be using that extra power? the very slim odds that he'll choose to SLI at some point in the future and still be able to use that PSU?


Might as well get a better PSU if you're paying $85 anyway (overpriced) instead of $20-40 for a low cost "decent" tier unit
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 15 2014 17:52 GMT
#6383
Well you are paying $15 for 3 extra years of warranty and full modular. It's not like you're just paying for 250w more power.

Plus there's a mail in rebate that puts it at the same price.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
June 15 2014 21:24 GMT
#6384
Changed the cpu cooler, PSU and case, here's the update

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($252.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($359.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1097.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-15 17:22 EDT-0400
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 15 2014 21:31 GMT
#6385
Can you try to look for a different RAM kit? You might have overlooked the sections in the shops with the 2133 MHz and 2400 MHz kits for example, thinking that 1600 MHz is always cheapest, but there's sometimes cheap deals for the higher speeds. Faster memory does not do much for performance, but it's still worth it if you'll only pay something like $5 more for example.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
June 15 2014 22:05 GMT
#6386
The motherboard says it only supports 1333/1600
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 15 2014 22:28 GMT
#6387
I don't know exactly why it's like that. There's this organization that does the standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JEDEC

In the JEDEC standard, speeds for DDR3 RAM top out at 1600 MHz. That's probably where the motherboard's specifications come from.

There's another "Intel XMP" = "eXtreme Memory Profile" extension to the method that's used to get the configuration for the memory sticks into the board. That XMP stuff allows the higher speeds.

If you buy a 2133 MHz kit for example, the memory sticks will come with support for all kinds of speeds. They will support JEDEC 1333 MHz and 1600 MHz, but they will also support 2133 MHz through XMP.

If you don't touch anything in the BIOS, that example memory kit will run at 1333 or 1600 MHz. If you look through the BIOS screens and search for the "XMP" option and enable that, it will start running at its 2133 speed. I suppose it's technically some sort of overclocking, even though everything will be set up automatically for you. Because it's technically overclocking, the board and CPU will get sold as only supporting 1600 MHz RAM
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 23:36:06
June 15 2014 23:33 GMT
#6388
I don't know exactly why it's like that.


To run faster than 1600mhz you have to overclock the memory controller on the CPU. That's not officially supported, nor are frequencies above that, and clocks you can hit vary chip to chip. On Haswell it's usually like 2400-3200 24/7 (usually 2400 without tweaking more advanced settings), but many ivy bridge and weaker for example had trouble at 2133-2400.

If you go out and buy a 2400mhz RAM kit and it doesn't run on your system, as long as the modules themselves are fine, you can't really send it back because there's nothing wrong with them, even if you can't run faster than 2133 for example due to CPU IMC

I'm sure you know most/all of this, just to expand for thread
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 07:11:34
June 16 2014 06:21 GMT
#6389
With the NZXT H440. Is it possible somehow to control the fans via a program or something?
Is it possible to remove the base fans of the case and buy new fans instead that can be controlled?
They sound quite high from what ive read. At around 38DB(dunno the speed)

Any other case that would fit me better perhaps?

With the nzxt phantom 530 you can appaearntly control your fans and according to some reviews i found, at lowest speed they dont sound anything at all.

Havent found tons of info yet of the phantom 530, it looks like it doesnt have any sound dampening?

Wouldnt mind a big case if it means i get it more silence.
Thanks.

Btw, if its any help i prefer to go with Noctua NH-U14S than liquid coolers.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 16 2014 07:15 GMT
#6390
A program's not going to be able to make hardware do something it can't. You need a fan controller or a motherboard that has fan speed regulation on enough headers (well, you could also use some fan splitters in conjunction with fan headers with control). As for which do, it's hard to tell on most boards as it usually isn't advertised. The H440 has a fan hub, but I think it's just a distribution point for +12V with no control.

If you're replacing the case fans, it's probably not worth the price and you may as well pick a different case to begin with. In fact, maybe you should consider other options anyway, especially for an air cooling build.

Supposedly Asus Z97 (and H97? maybe a lower cutoff?) boards do both PWM and voltage control on all fan headers, and a kind of mid-high range Z97-A or higher should have 6+ fan headers.

If you don't mind fixed control or flipping a switch to get the different speed, you could just use a Fractal Design R4. That has a built-in 5V / 7V / 12V fan control switch.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 11:51:41
June 16 2014 07:39 GMT
#6391
Hey, thanks for the reply.

Yeah, the fan hub dont let you control the fans.

Plenty of options here. So if i buy a motherboard that can control the fans of a case, i can then actually set them all to low rpm speed?
Like i can actually control all fans without any problem? No exceptions?
That sounds like the best option.

I guess if it works well, they should be able to get down to a good db level.
If it dont work well, then i might have to switch case...

Anyone have any experience with this case when you control the fans yourself?
Possible to lower them to 5V?
Would it be possible having them at 5V at all time? I mean so the case dont overheat or anything like that.

Possible to shut a fan down to btw?


I have watched the comments in this thread, it seems the Noctua NH-U14S is just really good in that its quiet and do his job well.
Think i prefer this one over the cooling build(which i dont know much about anyway)

KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
June 16 2014 09:08 GMT
#6392
Given the following motherboard/PSU:
650W tesla PSU (http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/power-supplies/discontinued-products/tesla-650w-80-plus)
motherboard gigabyte H61M-D2-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.se/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3773#ov)

Is the geforce gtx 770 (http://www.hwcompare.com/14660/geforce-gtx-560-ti-vs-geforce-gtx-770/) compatible with above setup?

1) It mentions PCI express 3.0 x16. My motherboard mentions PCI-e 2.0 - so I guess that's a no-no?

2) It also seems to use 6+8 pin power cords. My PSU says it has "2x PCI-express 8-pin(6+2) cable" - does that mean each cable can be used as either 8 or 6pin?

If it turns out my motherboard isn't up to the task... any suggestions?
England will fight to the last American
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 16 2014 11:16 GMT
#6393
You don't have to worry.

1) The card works in both PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0. + Show Spoiler +
The difference is that PCI-E 2.0 runs at half the speed, but that's not bad and still fast enough. I think there's no benchmark that detects a difference for a single card. With multiple cards, that "x16" gets split into x8 and x8 for example, and that's where it can get interesting as PCI-E 3.0 x8 = PCI-E 2.0 x16.


2) The way it's described as "6+2" cables for your PSU, that normally means it's a connector where you have a 6 pin connector with 2 extra pins hanging off to the side that are optional to use. If you have two of those kinds of cables, that means everything works fine for any strong single graphics card. It will work for 6+6 and 6+8 and 8+8 power needed by a card.

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Getting a new motherboard does not really make sense as everything works fine for you. You said you had an i5-2500 if I remember right. That CPU is still super close to the current top CPUs for any normal program (except for maybe video encoding).

I remember you wrote you had a 2500 but linked to a 2500K when you described your PC. I looked up the post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=318#6353

If that wasn't a mistake and you really have a 2500K, you could try to get into overclocking and then a motherboard for that could make sense. The 2500K would beat all current non-overclocked CPUs. An idea would be to try to hunt for a used board on ebay for €30 or so (and maybe a strong air cooler, but those aren't that expensive new). This makes sense if working on the PC is somewhat fun to you, otherwise it's probably a waste of time.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
June 16 2014 11:34 GMT
#6394
On June 16 2014 20:16 Ropid wrote:
You don't have to worry.

1) The card works in both PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0. + Show Spoiler +
The difference is that PCI-E 2.0 runs at half the speed, but that's not bad and still fast enough. I think there's no benchmark that detects a difference for a single card. With multiple cards, that "x16" gets split into x8 and x8 for example, and that's where it can get interesting as PCI-E 3.0 x8 = PCI-E 2.0 x16.


2) The way it's described as "6+2" cables for your PSU, that normally means it's a connector where you have a 6 pin connector with 2 extra pins hanging off to the side that are optional to use. If you have two of those kinds of cables, that means everything works fine for any strong single graphics card. It will work for 6+6 and 6+8 and 8+8 power needed by a card.

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Getting a new motherboard does not really make sense as everything works fine for you. You said you had an i5-2500 if I remember right. That CPU is still super close to the current top CPUs for any normal program (except for maybe video encoding).

I remember you wrote you had a 2500 but linked to a 2500K when you described your PC. I looked up the post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=318#6353

If that wasn't a mistake and you really have a 2500K, you could try to get into overclocking and then a motherboard for that could make sense. The 2500K would beat all current non-overclocked CPUs. An idea would be to try to hunt for a used board on ebay for €30 or so (and maybe a strong air cooler, but those aren't that expensive new). This makes sense if working on the PC is somewhat fun to you, otherwise it's probably a waste of time.


Clears it all up. Big thanks!
England will fight to the last American
LeeJohnDong
Profile Joined May 2014
Ireland58 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 12:58:28
June 16 2014 12:55 GMT
#6395
On June 14 2014 03:03 skyR wrote:
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On June 14 2014 01:28 LeeJohnDong wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Heres the items I have chosen so far.

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Hi All,

I've been searching for a while + thinking about getting a new gaming PC. the games I usually play are Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3, and usually any new games that come out like watch dogs/etc.

Heres the hardware I was looking to get from hardwareversand:

CPU - i7 4790
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Sockel 1150/165485/Inteurol Core i7-4790 Tray.article

MOBO - ASRock Z87 Pro3 Socket 1150
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/DDR3/79857/ASRock Z87 Pro3, Sockel 1150, ATX.article

RAM Kingston 2x8GB 1600MHZ DDR3 non-ecc
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/1600 Low Voltage/109476/16 GB-Kit Kingston 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM XMP.article

CASE Cooltek ATX midi tower
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Midi/53236/Cooltek X1, Midi Tower, ATX, schwarz, ohne Netzteil.article

GPU Inno3d Geforce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/2048 MB/102743/Inno3D GeForce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort.article

PSU Be Quiet Pure power L8 530W
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/500 - 600 Watts/50970/be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 530W.article

SSD Samsung SSD 250GB Sata 6GBps
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Solid-State-Disk/85974/Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 250GB SATA 6Gb s.article

Chipfan ThermalRight HR02 Macho PCGH
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Intel AMD/78119/Thermalright HR-02 Macho PCGH-Edition.article

Win7HP64b Windows 7 64bit
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/OEM-Software/34092/OEM Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation.article

I was thinking about getting dual monitors set as well but that'll be in the future sometime. probally 2x Benq 24inch..

Any thoughts/Recommendations for swapping anything out?

Your oppinions are greatly appreciated

Ive opted for them to put it together and activate windows also, it brings the total to 1108 euro.


What is your budget?
1100

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
SC2 / BF3/4 Highest settings

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Programming Java/C# etc

Do you intend to overclock?
No

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No

Do you need an operating system?
Yes

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Not to be part of, but looking at some 24inch benq monitors that i can get at a later date.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Windows

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Ireland

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Was going to use Hardwareversand but am open to suggestions.


You don't need a Z series board if you are not overclocking, an H or B series board is fine. A Core i5 4690 also requires a 9 series board or a 8 series board with an updated BIOS but since you are getting them to assemble, I'd pressume they would update the BIOS on the 8 series board for you.

You also do not need an aftermarket heatsink aka the Thermalright Macho if you are not overclocking.

Most GTX 770 are at least 10.5 inches in length. Not sure if that will fit in that case you have selected as that case seems pretty low-end / shit.

Get a Crucial MX100 instead of the Samsung 840 EVO, similar performance at a lower price.



Thanks SKYR

Much appreciated.. I have updated my basket using your recommendations and changed the graphics card to a r9 290..

Here is the basket now:

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CPU
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Sockel 1150/165474/Intel Core i5-4690 Tray.article

MOBO
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/DDR3/79856/ASRock B85 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX.article

RAM
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/1866 Low Voltage/159707/Kingston HyperX 8GB 1866MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM.article

CASE
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Midi/166506/Special item: Antec One, ATX, ohne Netzteil.article

GPU
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/4096 MB/162035/Special item: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 OC, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort.article

PSU
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/600 - 700 Watts/50968/be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 630 Watt.article

SSD
http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Solid-State-Disk/101091/Crucial M500 240GB SATA 6GB s 6,4CM (2,5) 7mm.article



New price: 875,62 € * Without Windows/assembly costs/etc

Also, have you used the reddit softwareswap? Someone recommended I get windows 7 Home premium for 10 bux on that??? doesnt sound legit at all..

Thanks,
LJD


Also: I received this message on another building forum:
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I'd get this if I was you.
HV20T46KDE Intel Core i5-4670K Tray,3,4 GHZ, 6MB Cache, LGA 1150, VGA 197,39 €
HV1143ICDE Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3, Sockel 1150, ATX 94,76 €
HV30TH08DE Thermalright True Spirit 90 M Rev.A 23,63 €
HV20MI48DE 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 64,34 €
HV203O15DE Corsair Carbide Series 200R, ATX, ohne Netzteil 53,28 €
HVR500CXDE Corsair Builder Serie CX500 V3 Non-Modular 80+ Bronze, 500 Watt 52,28 €
HV12SEV2DE Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 250GB SATA 6Gb/s 109,99 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 11,00 €

Total value: 606,67 €
The processor should be the same price as the i5 4690k when it comes out so it's just there for reference.
Then buy this for amazon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-TRI...eywords=r9 290

Should perform great in gaming and overclock a small bit as well, otherwise maybe get the noctua cooler. This build will allow you to get those dual benq's and also allow you to upgrade in the future with a futureproof motherboard and your not splashing it all now. 8gb ram is more than enough!
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 16 2014 13:43 GMT
#6396
The H440 has a fan hub, but I think it's just a distribution point for +12V with no control.


I think i heard that you can wire it to be 7v, not sure if that's particularly easy
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
promoe
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany14 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 12:31:14
June 17 2014 09:27 GMT
#6397
hey guys. a few weeks ago i already posted a configuration, but then i wanted to overclock. now because of a lack of time/nerves i decided i wont be oc. (and i think with the games i want to play i wont need to oc)

thanks for any help in advance!!

What is your budget?

~800€

What is your monitor's native resolution?

will be buying 2 monitors.
1x 24"
1x 18,5"

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?

dayz, lol, d3, csgo. similar games in the future.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?

normal everyday stuff (browsing, watching movies etc). maybe at some point stuff with photoshop.

Do you intend to overclock?

not anymore :x

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?

no

Do you need an operating system?

nope

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?

will be buying 2 monitors. but budget above is only for the pc.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.

should be able to let me play most future (2 years ahead maybe) games on good graphics. no need for ultra settings.

What country will you be buying your parts in?

germany

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.

hardwareversand or mindfactory probably. will compare once i know excactly what parts i need.


my previous build
i5 4670k

gigabyte ga z87x d3h

corsair vengeance pro 2x4gb ddr3 1866 --> is it even worth getting a 1866? or will be a 1600 enough?!

asus gtx 750ti

super flower golden green hx 80plus gold 450w

thermalright hr-02 macho --> guess i won't be needing such a strong cooler without oc?! any good/silent alternatives?

crucial m500 240gb ssd (or mx100 256gb if its better)

wd blue 1tb

bitfenix shinobi core midi tower


so now i need advices/help to switch out the parts (processor+mobo?!)
and i would like to know if everything else is compatible with each other then(especially if everything fits in the case).

thanks for your time!

cheers
DroneDroneDrone
Profile Joined June 2014
United States11 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 22:20:54
June 17 2014 20:38 GMT
#6398
Hi, I came here a while ago requesting a pc build but did not have the sufficient funds saved up yet. What I'm wondering now is that if a simple GPU upgrade can enable me to run in sc2 at at least high settings. Right now my CPU is an i5 750 2.66 ghz and my GPU is a 3850 HD. I have 8gb of ram. The reason I came to ask this is was because I was researching on SC2 system requirements and apparently a simple upgrade to a gtx 260 might let me run sc2 at high (post suggests even ultra). Here is the post : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/blizzard-entertainment-starcraft-ii-benchmark,2611-6.html Now of course this was before HotS but all I want is to be able to run at high settings at decent FPS. Now I don't have my exact specs yet because I am currently on my phone but once I get back on my PC I'll be able to tell you my specs. Also, is League more on CPU like sc2 or is it more on GPU? ATM I can run SC2 on high textures medium graphics at an average 24 FPS and League at highest settings on character models and everything else very low at 42 FPS ( would like to be able to run league at highest settings for character models and everything else on medium decently). Gtx 260 is around $50 but if you can finds better card for under $80 I'd be up for that too.
EDIT: Also the computer I have right now is a prebuilt. You can still remove/add parts on prebuilts right?

EDIT: Ok so on my PC now first off my current graphics card is ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series not a 3850 HD. Here are the rest of my PC specs according to systemrequirementslab: Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Speed 2.7 GHz
Number of Cores 4
Video Card ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Manufacturer ATI
Chipset ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Dedicated Memory 512 MB
Total Memory 4.0 GB
Memory 8.2 GB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit
Service Pack 1
Size 64 Bit
Edition Home Premium
Display Maximum Resolution 1920 x 1080
DVD HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH50N ATA Device
CD HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH50N ATA Device
Drive
Size 581.5 GB
Free 207.9 GB
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

My prebuilt is a Studio XPS 8000 and all I'm really looking to change is the GPU as in above : ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_studio_xps_desktop/studio-xps-8000_User's Guide_en-us.pdf

So will I be able to switch out my current graphics card for a gtx 260 or a similar/better card for under $80?
Thanks in advance and sorry for the poor organization on this post as I was writing it up on my phone then edited and aded on it once I got on my PC. This computer is 4 years old :/ Will try to build a new one in the (hopefully near) future once I have $1000 to spare or so (I'm only in high school). Will probably not be able to get amount until next year though but I can get an "upgrade" (if you could even call it that) till then because all I play is SC2 and LoL and every now and then BF# but I don't mind running that at lowest settings and really low resolutions ( heck according to systemrequirements I don't even meet the minimum for BF3 but am able to run it at decent FPS at my current settings)
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Recently looked inside my prebuilt. Here is what it looks like: http://imgur.com/CHbbvhq
If you don't mind telling me what what is I'd really appreciate it because I'm a total n00b at this. Really all I need to know is where the GPU is and if I'll be able to switch it out.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 17 2014 22:40 GMT
#6399
^ A gtx750 might work, or another card without pci-e power connectors

really not sure with that psu etc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 01:25:52
June 18 2014 01:23 GMT
#6400
On June 18 2014 05:38 DroneDroneDrone wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, I came here a while ago requesting a pc build but did not have the sufficient funds saved up yet. What I'm wondering now is that if a simple GPU upgrade can enable me to run in sc2 at at least high settings. Right now my CPU is an i5 750 2.66 ghz and my GPU is a 3850 HD. I have 8gb of ram. The reason I came to ask this is was because I was researching on SC2 system requirements and apparently a simple upgrade to a gtx 260 might let me run sc2 at high (post suggests even ultra). Here is the post : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/blizzard-entertainment-starcraft-ii-benchmark,2611-6.html Now of course this was before HotS but all I want is to be able to run at high settings at decent FPS. Now I don't have my exact specs yet because I am currently on my phone but once I get back on my PC I'll be able to tell you my specs. Also, is League more on CPU like sc2 or is it more on GPU? ATM I can run SC2 on high textures medium graphics at an average 24 FPS and League at highest settings on character models and everything else very low at 42 FPS ( would like to be able to run league at highest settings for character models and everything else on medium decently). Gtx 260 is around $50 but if you can finds better card for under $80 I'd be up for that too.
EDIT: Also the computer I have right now is a prebuilt. You can still remove/add parts on prebuilts right?

EDIT: Ok so on my PC now first off my current graphics card is ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series not a 3850 HD. Here are the rest of my PC specs according to systemrequirementslab: Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Speed 2.7 GHz
Number of Cores 4
Video Card ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Manufacturer ATI
Chipset ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Dedicated Memory 512 MB
Total Memory 4.0 GB
Memory 8.2 GB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit
Service Pack 1
Size 64 Bit
Edition Home Premium
Display Maximum Resolution 1920 x 1080
DVD HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH50N ATA Device
CD HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH50N ATA Device
Drive
Size 581.5 GB
Free 207.9 GB
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

My prebuilt is a Studio XPS 8000 and all I'm really looking to change is the GPU as in above : ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_studio_xps_desktop/studio-xps-8000_User's Guide_en-us.pdf

So will I be able to switch out my current graphics card for a gtx 260 or a similar/better card for under $80?
Thanks in advance and sorry for the poor organization on this post as I was writing it up on my phone then edited and aded on it once I got on my PC. This computer is 4 years old :/ Will try to build a new one in the (hopefully near) future once I have $1000 to spare or so (I'm only in high school). Will probably not be able to get amount until next year though but I can get an "upgrade" (if you could even call it that) till then because all I play is SC2 and LoL and every now and then BF# but I don't mind running that at lowest settings and really low resolutions ( heck according to systemrequirements I don't even meet the minimum for BF3 but am able to run it at decent FPS at my current settings)
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Recently looked inside my prebuilt. Here is what it looks like: http://imgur.com/CHbbvhq
If you don't mind telling me what what is I'd really appreciate it because I'm a total n00b at this. Really all I need to know is where the GPU is and if I'll be able to switch it out.


Pre built computers typically have pretty bad power supplies. Do compare the watts and the +12V rail to the power requirements of whatever graphics card you decide to go with.

Hey TL, I am considering an upgrade from my Gigabyte 6850 to either an MSI 760 or an ASUS R9 280. They are about the same price at about $250 USD. I play BF4, Titanfall, and Rome2. Can you guys help me decide which to go with?
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