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On June 13 2014 10:56 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 08:39 B_Type13X2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I've never understood the purpose behind small cases unless space was at an absolute premium or you require a portable desktop environment and a laptop isn't an option for whatever reason. If you don't need it to be that small, I'd go with a midtower that way your not SOL when adding drives in the future. Then again adopting a NAS server at home is becoming more and more popular for private cloud storage across multiple devices. And then again again (sorry for the double..) if you factor in the size of a NAS server stacked ontop of your mini ITX case you've just increased its size to a midtower anyway thereby defeating the entire purpose behind buying something to be small in the first place.
Looking at general case size classifications: a Mini tower or mini ITX: 14-16inches (35-40cm) tall compared with a midtower 17-21 inches ( 43-53cm) tall. And a 4 harddrive NAS server is about 8-9 inches ( 20-21cm) tall.
Now I know what your going to say, "I don't think I'd need more storage then a SSD and a 4TB harddrive so I wont be bothered with having to get a NAS server or need a bigger case." Okay that's a fair statement today, tomorrow and a year or two from now. but hear me out on this, I didn't think I would fill up 2X 1TB harddrives, and have a 2tb drive half filled. But I did alot faster then I thought, because of High Definition movies and TV shows. 1080P eats up harddrive space at 1gb per tv show. Now 1440P and 4k are on the horizon; 1440p will likely be the standard 2 years from now. I shudder to think at my storage requirements going forward or anyone else s for that matter. Lucky for me I went fulltower so adding another harddrive is a minor inconvenience rather then an oh-**** situation. If your in a small case and are not actively carrying it with you to LAN's or tournaments this can come back to bite you. Hell even if your going to LAN's and or Tournaments a midtower is not that much bigger or bulkier.
In another off tangent, my new computer boasts 8TB of space and I am actually looking at a NAS server for everyone elses on my home networks storage.
*edit sorry for the page stretch must have accidentally held my enter key* 1440p will never be standard because it is not a broadcast standard. It will be decades before 4k becomes standard since networks don't even broadcast 1080p yet. Not sure what you download but the usual 1080p rips are closer to 4GB per 41 minute episode and 720p is just a bit above 1GB. A lot more people download SD and 720p than 1080p, we're talking about like a 20:1 ratio. But i think the masses stream anyways.
It's not what I download its that I never delete. I have alot of 720p tv shows, and movies via Itunes I always get in HD. Entire seasons and series just eat up a massive amount of storage. Your in canada so you know unless your spoofing your IP via a proxy or using a VPN guard service you can't just Hulu everything which is quite annoying because your options become piracy, the aforementioned services or buying TV episodes online. I'm oddly alot more ethical about torrenting things and as for the other method's I am the only tech savy person in my home so if the proxy were using shuts down for whatever reason, well lets just say walking my GF or any of the other people that stay at my house through it is well a relationship tester.
more often then not we end up buying movies or tv seasons and once their downloaded they stay on the system. Not to mention the vacation videos. (close to 2 TB's worth of random video's from travel and everyday life.) It adds up if you never delete anything, with that I've come to realize I am sort of a digital media hoarder...
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I don't know about the PSU. You originally had one from the "VS" line of Cooler Master which are very good, but now you have something else on the list I never heard about. I know Cooler Master also sold some bad PSUs, and I can't find reviews about this B500. It does not look like a quality PSU to me just judging by its label... it seems it should have been sold as 420W or so, the 500W are a lie, and those kinds of lies are usually only done for bad units.
The various brands nearly all don't build their own PSUs, instead order them from a handful large manufacturers. This means it's never safe to just buy a random PSU, you always have to find review that checked the insides to see if it is a quality design internally. I mean there's both very good Cooler Master and very bad, very good Corsair and very bad, etc.
EDIT: Oops... I didn't see I wasn't on the last page of the thread. 
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On June 13 2014 13:09 thelackey wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all, I've never built a PC before but am looking to build a new one. What is your budget?Ideally around $800-900, I would not like to go over $1000, but if I have to I will. ( Do I need an SSD? If all it does is improve load times I can wait for those ) What is your monitor's native resolution?I have/will get a 1920x1080 monitor ( I have one, but will buy a new one in the future ) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?SC2 - highest possible LoL - highest possible These are the 2 games I mainly play but I might get watch dogs ( well it actually comes with the 760 ), but I heard that WD is poorly optimized for PC so I won't have the highest expectation for that. I do play BF3 every now and then and would like for it to run ultra smoothly. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Will be mainly used for gaming, streaming, and schoolwork too. Do you intend to overclock?Don't know much about this. CPU- not really GPU-maybe Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?2 way SLI in the future just one video card for now Do you need an operating system?Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?Yes, keyboard, mouse, and monitor but I am getting these in the future. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.Nothing really, as long as their reliable, have good reviews, and good customer support. What country will you be buying your parts in?United States If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.Nothing really, as long as their reliable, have good reviews, and good customer support. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Before writing this post I tried to experiment with 2 builds, using the sample builds as a starting point. 1) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RDvbCJ2) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vqfhmGHowever, the motherboard on this list does not support SLI and since I'm new on this subject I was wondering what motherboard I should get. Also, build 1 strays farther from the build than build 2, for example I opt in for the NZXT, which I like the look of more so I'd like to know if its ok to switch to the NZXT or stick with the Corsair.Feel free to change anything on this list and reply. The cheaper and more cost-efficient the better (Really if some of the things on the lists are overkill switch it because the less I spend the happier my pocket I'll be). EDIT: BTW I don't know much about cases but I like having a side panel window and such, so far I like the NZXT Phant, but if you have other recommendations feel free to tell me ( just change the list and link it ), I just ask that it'll fit my stuff and future upgrades ( I plan to buy another GPU for SLI in the future ) EDIT: Also I plan to get windows 8.1 but I've heard there's problems with SLI on that? Should I stick with 7?
SLI for Starcraft II and League of Legends is a really stupid idea as these games are not graphically intensive in the least bit. SLI also requires a Z series boards. B and H series boards are simply not capable of SLI.
You do not need an aftermarket heatsink aka the Thermalright Truespirit 140 if you are not overclocking.
Core i5 4690 requires a 9 series board.
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Yes, they would fit perfectly.
Lower voltage does not necessarily mean better overclocking.
MX100 is the successor to the M500, better performance for the same / lower price.
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On June 13 2014 23:45 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 13:09 thelackey wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all, I've never built a PC before but am looking to build a new one. What is your budget?Ideally around $800-900, I would not like to go over $1000, but if I have to I will. ( Do I need an SSD? If all it does is improve load times I can wait for those ) What is your monitor's native resolution?I have/will get a 1920x1080 monitor ( I have one, but will buy a new one in the future ) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?SC2 - highest possible LoL - highest possible These are the 2 games I mainly play but I might get watch dogs ( well it actually comes with the 760 ), but I heard that WD is poorly optimized for PC so I won't have the highest expectation for that. I do play BF3 every now and then and would like for it to run ultra smoothly. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Will be mainly used for gaming, streaming, and schoolwork too. Do you intend to overclock?Don't know much about this. CPU- not really GPU-maybe Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?2 way SLI in the future just one video card for now Do you need an operating system?Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?Yes, keyboard, mouse, and monitor but I am getting these in the future. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.Nothing really, as long as their reliable, have good reviews, and good customer support. What country will you be buying your parts in?United States If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.Nothing really, as long as their reliable, have good reviews, and good customer support. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Before writing this post I tried to experiment with 2 builds, using the sample builds as a starting point. 1) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RDvbCJ2) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vqfhmGHowever, the motherboard on this list does not support SLI and since I'm new on this subject I was wondering what motherboard I should get. Also, build 1 strays farther from the build than build 2, for example I opt in for the NZXT, which I like the look of more so I'd like to know if its ok to switch to the NZXT or stick with the Corsair.Feel free to change anything on this list and reply. The cheaper and more cost-efficient the better (Really if some of the things on the lists are overkill switch it because the less I spend the happier my pocket I'll be). EDIT: BTW I don't know much about cases but I like having a side panel window and such, so far I like the NZXT Phant, but if you have other recommendations feel free to tell me ( just change the list and link it ), I just ask that it'll fit my stuff and future upgrades ( I plan to buy another GPU for SLI in the future ) EDIT: Also I plan to get windows 8.1 but I've heard there's problems with SLI on that? Should I stick with 7? SLI for Starcraft II and League of Legends is a really stupid idea as these games are not graphically intensive in the least bit. SLI also requires a Z series boards. B and H series boards are simply not capable of SLI. You do not need an aftermarket heatsink aka the Thermalright Truespirit 140 if you are not overclocking. Core i5 4690 requires a 9 series board.
Yes. But SLI is an option that I want to go for in the future (I'm only buying one video card for now). As of know, the only games I play on the PC are League and SC2 (probably game I logged most hours on other than maybe SC1), and BF3 every now and then. Because I have recently switched from consoles, my game library is not that huge. However, I do plan on getting games from other genres which I imagine would be more graphically intensive. Anyways if you could tell me a name of a good board that'd be great. And also if you don't mind answering some of the questions from my original post and some new ones.
1) Windows 8.1 problem with SLI? ( I was reading how sli stopped working after upgrading from 8, but I assume it's been fixed , just want a confirmation)
2) Is the NZXT Phantom a good case?
3) What board should I get?
4) Is my power supply good?
5) Will the build provided below be able to run games at highest setting?
6) Anything I can do to cut down on costs, but maintain performance?
Anyways here is my current build as of now:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NP9tK8
I've gone ahead and removed the cooler since you said I won't be needing that. I've also removed the motherboard since it's not compatible. So moving on, if you could answer my questions I'd highly appreciate it and in addition if you could edit the build i showed you and linked the finished one that'd be great as well. Please forgive me for my lack of knowledge in this area as I've always bought prebuilt computers till now. Thanks in advance :D
EDIT: Posted wrong link this one should be correct
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Heres the items I have chosen so far.
+ Show Spoiler +Hi All, I've been searching for a while + thinking about getting a new gaming PC. the games I usually play are Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3, and usually any new games that come out like watch dogs/etc. Heres the hardware I was looking to get from hardwareversand: CPU - i7 4790 http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Sockel 1150/165485/Inteurol Core i7-4790 Tray.articleMOBO - ASRock Z87 Pro3 Socket 1150 http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/DDR3/79857/ASRock Z87 Pro3, Sockel 1150, ATX.articleRAM Kingston 2x8GB 1600MHZ DDR3 non-ecc http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/1600 Low Voltage/109476/16 GB-Kit Kingston 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM XMP.articleCASE Cooltek ATX midi tower http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Midi/53236/Cooltek X1, Midi Tower, ATX, schwarz, ohne Netzteil.articleGPU Inno3d Geforce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000 http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/2048 MB/102743/Inno3D GeForce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort.articlePSU Be Quiet Pure power L8 530W http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/500 - 600 Watts/50970/be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 530W.articleSSD Samsung SSD 250GB Sata 6GBps http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Solid-State-Disk/85974/Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 250GB SATA 6Gb s.articleChipfan ThermalRight HR02 Macho PCGH http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Intel AMD/78119/Thermalright HR-02 Macho PCGH-Edition.articleWin7HP64b Windows 7 64bit http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/OEM-Software/34092/OEM Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation.articleI was thinking about getting dual monitors set as well but that'll be in the future sometime. probally 2x Benq 24inch.. Any thoughts/Recommendations for swapping anything out? Your oppinions are greatly appreciated  Ive opted for them to put it together and activate windows also, it brings the total to 1108 euro.
What is your budget?
1100
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
SC2 / BF3/4 Highest settings
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Programming Java/C# etc
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
Yes
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Not to be part of, but looking at some 24inch benq monitors that i can get at a later date.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Windows
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Ireland
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Was going to use Hardwareversand but am open to suggestions.
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@thelackey:
There's the new Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD. You might want to get that one as it's a bit cheaper than the Samsung 840 EVO but also seems better.
I'd probably choose a better quality PSU, would rather try to save somewhere else.
Using SLI can be a bit of a battle. I feel it's for people that want to build something special and SLI is the only thing that works for that. It's for example for people that want to play one particular game a lot and want to play it stretched over three monitors and there's no single card that can do it.
Often games come out where SLI does not work right and support only gets patched into it at some later point. Some games never get SLI support because the developer does not care. Some games can't do SLI because there's technical issues that make it impossible. You often have to wait for new graphics card drivers.
There's also fundamental differences between a single powerful card managing a certain framerate compared to a SLI system doing the same. To sync up the two cards, a pretty massive delay is introduced. In practice, 60 FPS with SLI has the same mouse input lag as if it would be running at 30 FPS, and that's the best possible case.
Overall, you shouldn't get SLI if you are not sure you need it.
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Thanks for the answer. I guess I'll stay away SLI from now. Anyways I still need a motherboard for my build. Any recommendations? Also I'll probably just be buying the rosewill capstone for power supply as suggested in the sample builds, will that be good enough? And also anyways to cut costs now than I'm not going sli? I'm trying to go below $1000 if possible
EDIT: Do I need the SSD though? I wasn't planning on getting one yet as I'm sticking with the 1TB hard drive for now. I'd assume I'd still need a hard drive for secondary storage as 256GB is not a lot. Pros of SSDs?
EDIT: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cVH84D <- new link
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On June 14 2014 01:07 thelackey wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 13 2014 23:45 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 13:09 thelackey wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all, I've never built a PC before but am looking to build a new one. What is your budget?Ideally around $800-900, I would not like to go over $1000, but if I have to I will. ( Do I need an SSD? If all it does is improve load times I can wait for those ) What is your monitor's native resolution?I have/will get a 1920x1080 monitor ( I have one, but will buy a new one in the future ) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?SC2 - highest possible LoL - highest possible These are the 2 games I mainly play but I might get watch dogs ( well it actually comes with the 760 ), but I heard that WD is poorly optimized for PC so I won't have the highest expectation for that. I do play BF3 every now and then and would like for it to run ultra smoothly. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Will be mainly used for gaming, streaming, and schoolwork too. Do you intend to overclock?Don't know much about this. CPU- not really GPU-maybe Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?2 way SLI in the future just one video card for now Do you need an operating system?Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?Yes, keyboard, mouse, and monitor but I am getting these in the future. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.Nothing really, as long as their reliable, have good reviews, and good customer support. What country will you be buying your parts in?United States If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.Nothing really, as long as their reliable, have good reviews, and good customer support. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Before writing this post I tried to experiment with 2 builds, using the sample builds as a starting point. 1) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RDvbCJ2) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vqfhmGHowever, the motherboard on this list does not support SLI and since I'm new on this subject I was wondering what motherboard I should get. Also, build 1 strays farther from the build than build 2, for example I opt in for the NZXT, which I like the look of more so I'd like to know if its ok to switch to the NZXT or stick with the Corsair.Feel free to change anything on this list and reply. The cheaper and more cost-efficient the better (Really if some of the things on the lists are overkill switch it because the less I spend the happier my pocket I'll be). EDIT: BTW I don't know much about cases but I like having a side panel window and such, so far I like the NZXT Phant, but if you have other recommendations feel free to tell me ( just change the list and link it ), I just ask that it'll fit my stuff and future upgrades ( I plan to buy another GPU for SLI in the future ) EDIT: Also I plan to get windows 8.1 but I've heard there's problems with SLI on that? Should I stick with 7? SLI for Starcraft II and League of Legends is a really stupid idea as these games are not graphically intensive in the least bit. SLI also requires a Z series boards. B and H series boards are simply not capable of SLI. You do not need an aftermarket heatsink aka the Thermalright Truespirit 140 if you are not overclocking. Core i5 4690 requires a 9 series board. Yes. But SLI is an option that I want to go for in the future (I'm only buying one video card for now). As of know, the only games I play on the PC are League and SC2 (probably game I logged most hours on other than maybe SC1), and BF3 every now and then. Because I have recently switched from consoles, my game library is not that huge. However, I do plan on getting games from other genres which I imagine would be more graphically intensive. Anyways if you could tell me a name of a good board that'd be great. And also if you don't mind answering some of the questions from my original post and some new ones. 1) Windows 8.1 problem with SLI? ( I was reading how sli stopped working after upgrading from 8, but I assume it's been fixed , just want a confirmation) 2) Is the NZXT Phantom a good case? 3) What board should I get? 4) Is my power supply good? 5) Will the build provided below be able to run games at highest setting? 6) Anything I can do to cut down on costs, but maintain performance? Anyways here is my current build as of now: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NP9tK8I've gone ahead and removed the cooler since you said I won't be needing that. I've also removed the motherboard since it's not compatible. So moving on, if you could answer my questions I'd highly appreciate it and in addition if you could edit the build i showed you and linked the finished one that'd be great as well. Please forgive me for my lack of knowledge in this area as I've always bought prebuilt computers till now. Thanks in advance :D EDIT: Posted wrong link this one should be correct
NZXT Phantom series of cases are very good. You may want to take a look at the more recent Phantom 630 as well, I think both are very similar though.
The EVGA 500B is a good budget power supply and the Rosewill Capstone 450 is an excellent power supply but for a SLI build, you'd want the 650w variant of the Rosewill Capstone: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182263
You'd be able to run a lot of games on reasonably high settings comfortably but max settings for all games, no. Some games, yes. Even some of the highest end setups will struggle in certain scenarios in some games on max settings.
There is really no way to cut costs if you are interested in SLI. If you want to do SLI than something like you'd want something like a Gigabyte Z97X-SLI around $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128714
Not sure about the Windows 8.1 problem with SLI but if you are going SLI route, you should be prepared for potential driver problems.
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On June 14 2014 01:49 thelackey wrote:
Thanks for the answer. I guess I'll stay away SLI from now. Anyways I still need a motherboard for my build. Any recommendations? Also I'll probably just be buying the rosewill capstone for power supply as suggested in the sample builds, will that be good enough?
EDIT: Do I need the SSD though? I wasn't planning on getting one yet as I'm sticking with the 1TB hard drive for now. I'd assume I'd still need a hard drive for secondary storage as 256GB is not a lot. Pros of SSDs?
Pros of SSD is speed. You don't need it but it is nice for open world games / MMOs.
Most people would still need a hard drive for storage, yes.
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Do I still need to get the z97x motherboard if I'm no longer going for sli? I'm trying to not go over $1000, I can but I don't want to :/ Any motherboard out there that's good, cheaper and will work with my 4690? ( I can scratch out the SSD to stay under $1000 if it goes over, I will probably get one in the future)
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What is your current build?
Geforce gtx 560 ti (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications)
i5-2500 processor (https://www.komplett.se/intel-core-i5-2500k-processor/619274)
8gb ram
650W tesla PSU (http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/power-supplies/discontinued-products/tesla-650w-80-plus)
motherboard gigabyte H61M-D2-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.se/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3773#ov)
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920*1080
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Company got some free cash for us to spend on hardware, so why not utilize it.
It will be used for gaming. SLI is Not an option though.
What is your budget?
Around 750ish dollars
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Sweden
If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
Not really. I guess Geforce for gpu.
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On June 14 2014 01:49 thelackey wrote:
EDIT: Do I need the SSD though? I wasn't planning on getting one yet as I'm sticking with the 1TB hard drive for now. I'd assume I'd still need a hard drive for secondary storage as 256GB is not a lot. Pros of SSDs?
What the SSD does is shorten a lot of the waits you run into when sitting at the PC. It makes the PC feel faster when you click around and start and close programs a lot for example. It won't change anything about the FPS in games.
Personally, I noticed I feel more calm at the end of the day if it's a machine with SSD. It seems a HDD gets on my nerves over time even though it's not actually feeling annoying right in the moment. There's definitely people that do not care in the slightest, and you might be one of those and could save the money.
You could also only buy a small one for just Windows and maybe one important game like WoW. Windows and programs installed on the SSD will also make the game library on the HDD feel faster. The HDD will be completely free to only concentrate on the game you are currently playing as it won't ever get asked to do things for Windows.
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On June 14 2014 02:03 KaiserJohan wrote:
What is your current build?
Geforce gtx 560 ti (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications)
i5-2500 processor (https://www.komplett.se/intel-core-i5-2500k-processor/619274)
8gb ram
650W tesla PSU (http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/power-supplies/discontinued-products/tesla-650w-80-plus)
motherboard gigabyte H61M-D2-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.se/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3773#ov)
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920*1080
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Company got some free cash for us to spend on hardware, so why not utilize it.
It will be used for gaming. SLI is Not an option though.
What is your budget?
Around 750ish dollars
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Sweden
If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
Not really. I guess Geforce for gpu.
What games do you want to run faster and how much would you value say higher FPS, vs graphical quality? You might want something like z97+4690k+overclock for faster CPU, or a ~290/780 GPU - or just an upgrade to both CPU and GPU
Better to state swedish money, because prices in europe and the US are vastly different. Some technology costs 1.7x as much in the UK as it does in the US for example, exact same hardware
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On June 14 2014 02:19 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 02:03 KaiserJohan wrote:
What is your current build?
Geforce gtx 560 ti (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications)
i5-2500 processor (https://www.komplett.se/intel-core-i5-2500k-processor/619274)
8gb ram
650W tesla PSU (http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/power-supplies/discontinued-products/tesla-650w-80-plus)
motherboard gigabyte H61M-D2-B3 (http://www.gigabyte.se/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3773#ov)
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920*1080
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Company got some free cash for us to spend on hardware, so why not utilize it.
It will be used for gaming. SLI is Not an option though.
What is your budget?
Around 750ish dollars
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Sweden
If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
Not really. I guess Geforce for gpu. What games do you want to run faster and how much would you value say higher FPS, vs graphical quality? You might want something like z97+4690k+overclock for faster CPU, or a ~290/780 GPU - or just an upgrade to both CPU and GPU Better to state swedish money, because prices in europe and the US are vastly different. Some technology costs 1.7x as much in the UK as it does in the US for example, exact same hardware
OK - around 5000ish swedish currency
For the processor, it does not look like there is a significant clock speed increase, or is it? I guess I need to upgrade motherboard aswell?
For GPU, you would recommend 780 over 770?
I might consider an SSD aswell, only have an HDD atm. What SSD might you recommend?
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On June 14 2014 01:28 LeeJohnDong wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Heres the items I have chosen so far.+ Show Spoiler +Hi All, I've been searching for a while + thinking about getting a new gaming PC. the games I usually play are Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3, and usually any new games that come out like watch dogs/etc. Heres the hardware I was looking to get from hardwareversand: CPU - i7 4790 http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Sockel 1150/165485/Inteurol Core i7-4790 Tray.articleMOBO - ASRock Z87 Pro3 Socket 1150 http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/DDR3/79857/ASRock Z87 Pro3, Sockel 1150, ATX.articleRAM Kingston 2x8GB 1600MHZ DDR3 non-ecc http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/1600 Low Voltage/109476/16 GB-Kit Kingston 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM XMP.articleCASE Cooltek ATX midi tower http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Midi/53236/Cooltek X1, Midi Tower, ATX, schwarz, ohne Netzteil.articleGPU Inno3d Geforce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000 http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/2048 MB/102743/Inno3D GeForce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort.articlePSU Be Quiet Pure power L8 530W http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/500 - 600 Watts/50970/be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 530W.articleSSD Samsung SSD 250GB Sata 6GBps http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Solid-State-Disk/85974/Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 250GB SATA 6Gb s.articleChipfan ThermalRight HR02 Macho PCGH http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/Intel AMD/78119/Thermalright HR-02 Macho PCGH-Edition.articleWin7HP64b Windows 7 64bit http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/OEM-Software/34092/OEM Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation.articleI was thinking about getting dual monitors set as well but that'll be in the future sometime. probally 2x Benq 24inch.. Any thoughts/Recommendations for swapping anything out? Your oppinions are greatly appreciated Ive opted for them to put it together and activate windows also, it brings the total to 1108 euro. 1100 What is your monitor's native resolution?1080p What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?SC2 / BF3/4 Highest settings What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Programming Java/C# etc Do you intend to overclock?No Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?No Do you need an operating system?Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?Not to be part of, but looking at some 24inch benq monitors that i can get at a later date. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.Windows What country will you be buying your parts in?Ireland If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.Was going to use Hardwareversand but am open to suggestions.
You don't need a Z series board if you are not overclocking, an H or B series board is fine. A Core i5 4690 also requires a 9 series board or a 8 series board with an updated BIOS but since you are getting them to assemble, I'd pressume they would update the BIOS on the 8 series board for you.
You also do not need an aftermarket heatsink aka the Thermalright Macho if you are not overclocking.
Most GTX 770 are at least 10.5 inches in length. Not sure if that will fit in that case you have selected as that case seems pretty low-end / shit.
Get a Crucial MX100 instead of the Samsung 840 EVO, similar performance at a lower price.
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Doesn't really matter which board you get. If you want four RAM slots than get that one otherwise get the other one and save yourself the money. But there are probably less expensive mATX boards with 4 RAM slots as well.
128GB would suffice if you only plan on playing three to four games. Only you would know your storage needs. Windows ~20GB, Starcraft II ~20GB, Battlefield ~30GB, League of Legends ~6GB. You do the math.
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For the processor, it does not look like there is a significant clock speed increase, or is it?
~3.4 - 3.7ghz depending on load on your current cpu, something like 4.6ghz permanent on a 4690k that would be like ~15% faster clock for clock too.
Many games would be like 40% faster and you could encode video 60% faster, so it's worth a mention if you value performance on cpu bound games, with that kind of budget.
780 is just a different tier GPU to 760/770. It's where the jump from "Mid-range" to "high end" kinda happens
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