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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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DroneDroneDrone
United States11 Posts
What is your budget? I'm looking to spend around $500-$600. Don't have the money as of yet but am saving for it. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? SC2 (highest setting smoothly) LoL (highest settings smoothly) - (also other games such as FirstPS, but I don't mind running these on low ) - (also I intend to stream but don't mind lowering setting for that) What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing really besides schoolwork Do you intend to overclock? I don't know much about it so no, but if someone is willing to explain it to me and if it won't affect my budget much then yes. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? Don't really know what that is, I heard you need 2 graphic cards so no Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. No What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. NO (Please forgive me for my lack of knowledge don't really know much about this subject. Anyways thanks in advance for your help) EDIT: Well if you can't find a build that can run the highest setting with my budget I'm OK with high setting on SC2 | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On June 12 2014 16:20 DroneDroneDrone wrote: Hi, I've never built a computer before but I want to give it a try, so I am requesting a build. Anyways wanted a new PC that can run sc2 on its highest possible settings (ultra, 1920x1080, etc.) and other games decently ( I don't really mind low setting for FirstPS) What is your budget? I'm looking to spend around $500-$600. Don't have the money as of yet but am saving for it. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? SC2 (highest setting smoothly) LoL (highest settings smoothly) - (also other games such as FirstPS, but I don't mind running these on low ) - (also I intend to stream but don't mind lowering setting for that) What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing really besides schoolwork Do you intend to overclock? I don't know much about it so no, but if someone is willing to explain it to me and if it won't affect my budget much then yes. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? Don't really know what that is, I heard you need 2 graphic cards so no Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. No What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. NO (Please forgive me for my lack of knowledge don't really know much about this subject. Anyways thanks in advance for your help) EDIT: Well if you can't find a build that can run the highest setting with my budget I'm OK with high setting on SC2 The "Budget Gamer" build in the TS comes in at just above $500 (don't know how up-to-date these prices are, so there may be some wiggleroom). Add around $100 for a Windows 8 license and you've hit your budget cap. The description mentions "medium to high" settings, but for SC2 you should be able to play this at least on high. I don't know LoL system requirements, but I reckon it'll be similar to SC2. edit: If you're still saving up for the hardware, you should check back when you've gathered all the funds. The hardware-world changes quickly. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
On June 12 2014 16:11 Incognoto wrote: By the way, wouldn't shadow-play help a bit with the actual in game recording? Purely in terms of performance. NVENC through shadowplay or OBS (i prefer OBS) is best for in-game performance On June 12 2014 18:52 Rannasha wrote: The "Budget Gamer" build in the TS comes in at just above $500 (don't know how up-to-date these prices are, so there may be some wiggleroom). Add around $100 for a Windows 8 license and you've hit your budget cap. The description mentions "medium to high" settings, but for SC2 you should be able to play this at least on high. I don't know LoL system requirements, but I reckon it'll be similar to SC2. edit: If you're still saving up for the hardware, you should check back when you've gathered all the funds. The hardware-world changes quickly. Does anyone have an nvidia GPU (kepler+(?)) and a radeon GPU too for benchmarking in CPU limited situations? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
clocks normally (probably 4.6 or 4.7 at 1.4v usually, hard to say without lots of samples) and you can use stock cooler "ok" with like 1.3vcore ![[image loading]](http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/radek/2014/pentium_g3258/charts/sc2_1920n.png) Also x264 test i saw seems to indicate it slightly outperforming i3 and 7850k slightly (with both of those at stock frequencies) but i only saw one benchmark pretty sick CPU for £50 (unlocked i5 costs £165, though it has twice as many cores, AVX instructions, more cache etc) - singlethread perf should be unbeaten until you're overclocking i5 which requires more thought towards cooling and motherboard choice, as well as the +£115 price tag. ^indication is i3/i5 performing better per clock, for whatever reasons (avx, cache, the presence of 4 cores or 2c4t impacting benchmarks, etc) but a solid OC should still be enough of a clock difference to significantly improve performance A second test backing up the other one for x264: ![[image loading]](http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/radek/2014/pentium_g3258/charts/x264_2.png) | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-USB3-0-Motherboard-GA-H81M-H/dp/B00I6DLKCA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1402586119&sr=8-4&keywords=lga 1150 motherboard The g3258 is a beast and it was close between that and a g3220. The price to performance ratio is similar, but the g3220 is at a lower price point. I would feel obligated to get a heatsink + psu + case for the g3258, too. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
https://www.komplett.no/k/shoplist.aspx?mode=receive&si=1398175&su=30d1d462-26d5-44ee-8b56-f145025c8661 I told him to change out the i7 for an i5-4670(k if he wanted to look into overclocking) Also changing out the monitor for a dell U2412M He does not plan to do excessive video editing or rendering of any kind, and it's all mainly for games and films and whatnot. I'm not updated or knowledgeable about GPUs or mobos at all, so looking for input on those, and also how is the case gonna hold up? Mobility is a priority for him as he moves on almost a weekly basis, so that's all the thought put behind the small case | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
You only need something like 450W for the PSU. I agree i5 is the smart choice, i7 wasted money. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
On June 13 2014 04:37 Aocowns wrote: Hey, I'm refining a build for a friend of mine, and wondered if any of you guys had any good input. https://www.komplett.no/k/shoplist.aspx?mode=receive&si=1398175&su=30d1d462-26d5-44ee-8b56-f145025c8661 I told him to change out the i7 for an i5-4670(k if he wanted to look into overclocking) Also changing out the monitor for a dell U2412M He does not plan to do excessive video editing or rendering of any kind, and it's all mainly for games and films and whatnot. I'm not updated or knowledgeable about GPUs or mobos at all, so looking for input on those, and also how is the case gonna hold up? Mobility is a priority for him as he moves on almost a weekly basis, so that's all the thought put behind the small case If you're overclocking, use z97 and an i5-4690k (if you can wait til end of the month) or z87 and a 4670k if you can't. If you're not overclocking, you can use cheaper boards than the z-series. The above only applies if you want to overclock, and if so, then you kind of need an aftermarket cooler, too. You can get a decent OC on a small aftermarket cooler which would fit into an matx case, especially with a 4690k (which can run like up to approximately ~6-14c cooler due to better thermal interface materials under the hood.. hard to say exactly how much, because it probably varies cpu sample to cpu sample, and there's not much data for it) ^ average OC with 1.2vcore, which is a low and easy to cool voltage, would be about 4.3ghz on all cores, for example. 280 is probably better price/performance - the 280x is only like 10% better, if memory serves - it's like 7950 vs 7970, or 670 vs 680. On both sides, the "flagship" GPU cost significantly more than the one under it, which was almost the same thing, just with say 1/8'th of the cores disabled, but with fully intact memory bus+ROP's etc, so it only lost 1/8'th of the performance in a worst case scenario, often losing less. The 280 and 280x are essentially 7950 and 7970 with different names on them. You'd be at like half load with simultaneous max CPU and GPU on a good 450w PSU, nowhere near too high load to start slipping out of the most efficient load %'s, and not even remotely close to maxing one | ||
Jer99
Canada8160 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $234.99 Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $54.99 Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $89.99 Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $79.99 Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $84.99 Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card $379.99 (20$ mail-in rebate) Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $47.95 Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $79.99 Base Total: $1072.88 Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00 Shipping: $8.99 Total: $1061.87 How's that look? I'm not sure about overclocking yet, so I might want to do that | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Also, that same build could fit in a Fractal Design Node 304, including an aftermarket cooler (air or CLC). That's under 60% the size of a Prodigy. @ Jer99: Price looks high on the video card (probably because Superclocked version) and RAM (note that only up to 1600 MHz supported by the board anyway), and you don't need more than 300W, so just get whatever reliable option has two PCIe connectors. | ||
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Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
900-1000 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920*1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? SC2 high-ultra, LOL High, Dota 2 Highest, What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Normal internet usage, streaming Do you intend to overclock? If possible yes Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? no Do you need an operating system? no Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Yes I need a monitor preferably 22" If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. I prefer intel but i could use amd if needed What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. I need a motherboard with wifi unless you guys think an external one will do the job I have put together a sample build and I am conflicted between the GTX 750ti and GTX 660. If you can fit a 760 in my budget I would be very happy although I dont think it will work. I have an external 120gb SSD so I dont need an SSD just an HDD http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Leon1das1/saved/6ZDJ7P Thank you! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 13 2014 05:05 Jer99 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Here's a build I got online: + Show Spoiler + CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $234.99 Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $54.99 Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $89.99 Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $79.99 Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $84.99 Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card $379.99 (20$ mail-in rebate) Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $47.95 Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $79.99 Base Total: $1072.88 Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00 Shipping: $8.99 Total: $1061.87 How's that look? I'm not sure about overclocking yet, so I might want to do that You don't need a 650w power supply since you aren't overclocking and can't even do SLI. Even if you did need 650w, Rosewill Hive 650w for $80 is overpriced since the significantly better EVGA Supernova 750w G2 is roughly only ~$20 more (or practically same price, maybe even cheaper, if you count the mail in rebate). For this sort of build, just get an EVGA 500B for ~$40 or if you want something better, get the Rosewill Capstone 450 for ~$70. Crucial MX100 is the successor to the M500, better performance and basically same price (or cheaper in some cases). Although 1866MHz will work fine, B85 only supports 1600MHz so I'd probably save money and get a 1600MHz kit for around $80 instead. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 13 2014 05:47 Leon1das1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? 900-1000 What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920*1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? SC2 high-ultra, LOL High, Dota 2 Highest, What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Normal internet usage, streaming Do you intend to overclock? If possible yes Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? no Do you need an operating system? no Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Yes I need a monitor preferably 22" If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. I prefer intel but i could use amd if needed What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. I need a motherboard with wifi unless you guys think an external one will do the job I have put together a sample build and I am conflicted between the GTX 750ti and GTX 660. If you can fit a 760 in my budget I would be very happy although I dont think it will work. I have an external 120gb SSD so I dont need an SSD just an HDD http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Leon1das1/saved/DQNv6h Thank you! Seasonic S12II is good but it's really old and far from being the best anymore. Rosewill Capstone 450w for $60 would be better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Overclocking requiers a K suffix processor, eg. Core i5 4670k or Core i5 4690k. You'd also want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking. You also don't need an extra fan, you can add that later if you aren't happy with your temperatures. You also don't need to spend $200 on a motherboard unless you want some specific feature like dual NIC, thunderbolt, or something. A $130ish board like an ASUS Z97-K, Gigabyte Z97X-SLI, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3, etc would be more than fine for a novice user. This would give you almost $100 to purchase a GTX 760, something that actually gives you a noticeable difference unlike the motherboard. | ||
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Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 13 2014 06:12 Leon1das1 wrote: Alright thank you I know that I need a K processor but I guess I focused too hard on trying to find a mother board with wi-fi. I will make those changes, Thank you. Oh i missed that part. For Wi-fi, you can just get a PCIe adapter or a USB adapter. | ||
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Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8160 Posts
On June 13 2014 06:12 skyR wrote: Oh i missed that part. For Wi-fi, you can just get a PCIe adapter or a USB adapter. Can you recommend a good one? I have connection issues that i don't want when i upgrade | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
https://www.komplett.no/k/shoplist.aspx?mode=receive&si=1402351&su=111551E7-F8F3-4816-81F9-43013A757A0C I take it mobo really isn't that important as long as you look at overclocking vs no overclocking and wi-fi and whatnot? Decided on no OC EDIT: Remove the k processor, obviously | ||
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