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phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 06:25:26
May 03 2012 06:24 GMT
#21
You can get some refurbished cisco routers for much cheaper, if you need it... (this thread doesn't make it seem like it is necessary)
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 03 2012 06:47 GMT
#22
Why are you over complicating such a simple matter?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 07:31:44
May 03 2012 07:25 GMT
#23
Seriously. If you need real performance and stablity for like 10 devices running all at once, get $300 and buy an Apple Airport Extreme and don't look back. Anything else (needing internet for two devices is not a heavy load come on people) can be run off basically the cheapest Netgear ASDL2+ router/modem you can find.

I mean christ, you were like this when you were buying that $300 desktop system or whatever. There is a point where you have to just buy the damned thing. If it doesn't work, return it to the store. Best Buy apparently has good return policies so it should not honestly be difficult.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
May 03 2012 07:48 GMT
#24
This thread is hilarious.
Either buy what people tell you to buy since they want to help save money, or just buy that apple thing and know you have top notch stuff even if it does not affect you in the slightest. Also fun to read your posts with "everyone has wired stuff, right?" "Hardcore equals wired, right?". Just sounds like you do not care about the actual performance, you only care about whatever you see others do without knowing or experiencing the difference at all yourself

"But I just want to fit in"

♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
May 03 2012 08:00 GMT
#25
On May 03 2012 15:47 skyR wrote:
Why are you over complicating such a simple matter?


It seems like everyone else is complicating it.

At first I thought like I'd need a special router to take advantage of what I thought was 'fast' internet. Apparently it's not fast. I don't know if it's not fast because everyone else is uber, or what, but I understood cable/dsl as pretty quick broadband, and xfinity/fios as super fast. So whatever, okay, now I know that it doesn't require a special router.

But then, someone says I need more memory on my router (he says to ignore it, but he also said buy an expensive router).

I say I don't need communication between the two PCs, and I don't need wireless, and I don't need fast speed between the two PCs. But all everyone is focusing on, is fast communication between the two PCs, and wireless, and the fact I need a modem (when I already have one).

So I can't really get a straight answer. At all.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
May 03 2012 08:06 GMT
#26
Seriously. If you need real performance and stablity for like 10 devices running all at once, get $300 and buy an Apple Airport Extreme and don't look back. Anything else (needing internet for two devices is not a heavy load come on people) can be run off basically the cheapest Netgear ASDL2+ router/modem you can find.


NO! NOT TEN DEVICES! TWO!

Okay.. so what does asdl2+ mean? Do i have to get netgear asdl2+? A cheapest possible router won't work, it has to be netgear asdl2+? I don't get it at all ;/

This thread is hilarious.
Either buy what people tell you to buy since they want to help save money, or just buy that apple thing and know you have top notch stuff even if it does not affect you in the slightest. Also fun to read your posts with "everyone has wired stuff, right?" "Hardcore equals wired, right?". Just sounds like you do not care about the actual performance, you only care about whatever you see others do without knowing or experiencing the difference at all yourself

"But I just want to fit in"


Not really...

I'm saying I don't need wireless at all.

I care about performance only, that's why I don't need wireless. I would much rather have an infinitely tiny amount of performance, than wireless or convenience.

I don't know anything about routers.

I was just going to go to craigslist and get the cheapest router possible. But apparently, no one thinks that's a good idea. I just get vague stuff.

I really can't stress enough how little I need here. I don't need wireless, I don't torrent that much stuff, at most I'd be streaming the sc2 I play, and need to be able to connect 2 computers to the internet because my modem doesn't have 2 ports. I just need a wired connecter-thing, I don't need wireless.

What's the cheapest thing I can get to do this. That's all. Everyone is makng it overly-complicated, and it seems just getting the cheapest damn thing from craigslist is not a good idea. I don't know why, but all the reasons given so far was stuff I explicitly said isn't necessary.
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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
May 03 2012 08:11 GMT
#27
if I were you I´d go to an electronics store, ask the people who work there, get a recommendation, and if you're a cheapskate go home and buy it off the internet, else just buy it there.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 08:52:40
May 03 2012 08:52 GMT
#28
I'm just going to get the cheapest router I can from craigslist. I think people are overthinking this.

I don't share anything between my pc's, I don't who does that or for what besides something really specialized, and even they did, when would a normal connection not be enough, or just transfer via the internet. And I have no idea what tomatoware is, and I don't think I need anything like that.

I was just worried because I thought I had bought some super awesome fast internet that may need a special router.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 03 2012 09:19 GMT
#29
On May 03 2012 17:06 Belial88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Seriously. If you need real performance and stablity for like 10 devices running all at once, get $300 and buy an Apple Airport Extreme and don't look back. Anything else (needing internet for two devices is not a heavy load come on people) can be run off basically the cheapest Netgear ASDL2+ router/modem you can find.


NO! NOT TEN DEVICES! TWO!

Okay.. so what does asdl2+ mean? Do i have to get netgear asdl2+? A cheapest possible router won't work, it has to be netgear asdl2+? I don't get it at all ;/


YES I KNOW YOU ONLY NEED TWO DEVICES THAT DON'T NEED SHARING SO READ THE SECOND PART OF MY POST.

ASDL2+ is the standard we use in Australia. I don't know what the hell you use in the States.

You think too highly of your internet and too low of the products on the market. Anything made in the last few years will work. Are you always like this with your purchases? A router modem is cheap as chips these days and you can return it if it sucks.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
May 04 2012 09:20 GMT
#30
YES I KNOW YOU ONLY NEED TWO DEVICES THAT DON'T NEED SHARING SO READ THE SECOND PART OF MY POST.

ASDL2+ is the standard we use in Australia. I don't know what the hell you use in the States.

You think too highly of your internet and too low of the products on the market. Anything made in the last few years will work. Are you always like this with your purchases? A router modem is cheap as chips these days and you can return it if it sucks.


I did. First off, why did you even have that first part? Like, who seriously has 10+ devices on anything but a professional/business level or something obviously not common? I'm just a guy with a computer and plays SC2. Me knowing how to build a PC, is like pretty impressive compared to just about anyone I know.

Secondly, I have no clue what netgear asdl+ is all about. You didn't explain it at all, and I don't understand what's so bad about getting the cheapest POS off craigslist is - but apparently, you think that's not a good idea. I don't know why, but obviously you don't think it's a good idea. It shows that I'm from the US, not aus, and I stated that I'm using Xfinity in the OP. Not asdf. Xfinity.

But I get that that was a misunderstanding now. I thought that was like a technical term for something, like tomatoware, like that one guy said I *must* have.

You think too highly of your internet and too low of the products on the market. Anything made in the last few years will work. Are you always like this with your purchases? A router modem is cheap as chips these days and you can return it if it sucks.


I always considered DSL/Cable as high-speed internet, it's broadband, it's 'fast', and fairly good. Having anything more than that, like fios/xfinity, is pretty cutting edge, it has limited availability, costs more, and not many people have it.

So yea, I thought the internet I got was special. I think people here are being a bit snobby, I don't know what to say. Xfinity and Fios in the US is like very high-end internet, it's a step up from standard broadband, cable/dsl, which is way more speed for 99% of consumer users doing regular stuff like gaming, streaming, even heavy downloading.

I get it now. 25/5 isn't so high-end that I need special equipment to take advantage of it. I'll go with what I would have done if I just got cable/dsl - I'll get the cheapest thing I can get from craigslist (they are classifieds page in the US on the internet).
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 13:13:01
May 04 2012 12:47 GMT
#31
Secondly, I have no clue what netgear asdl+ is all about. You didn't explain it at all, and I don't understand what's so bad about getting the cheapest POS off craigslist is - but apparently, you think that's not a good idea. I don't know why, but obviously you don't think it's a good idea. It shows that I'm from the US, not aus, and I stated that I'm using Xfinity in the OP. Not asdf. Xfinity.


ADSL2+ is the first entry in Google. According to Wikipedia, its at least 24.0 Mbit/s down and 1.3 Mbit/s up. Of course, you're probably never going to reach those speeds for lots of reasons but literally every branded (i.e. Netgear, Buffalo, Linksys) modem from a non-shady Asian store will do those speeds.

The reason I tell you to buy from Best Buy is because it may be difficult to return goods on Craigslist. Unless you are absolutely destitute (how can you afford this internet then?) and cannot afford a $50 router/router+modem (if you read the specs, they exceed your internet connection's speeds by a magnitude of like 10 times), then why would you risk DOA products or products that may not serve your purpose? You seem to worried about bottlenecking so why add additional risk of a defective/unsuitable product just to save lunch money?

Best Buy offers a 30 refund period for all nonperishable goods. I'm not American but I know people who buy monitors from Best Buy just to review them and then return it after they are done. There is basically no risk in getting some random router/router+modem in this situation. People are getting angsty because there is no reason to be so indecisive.
Afterlifeil
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel35 Posts
May 04 2012 12:49 GMT
#32
switch wont work unless ur modem is a modem+router.
if you want a cheap router that will manage to hold torreneting np go for Buffalo G300NH / TP-LINK 1043ND
Talk to me Artosis
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 13:07:24
May 04 2012 13:05 GMT
#33
Ok, I'm going to make it real simple. The only reason you would want to get something slightly more expensive like a gigabit router is IF you sometime in the future will be upgrading and wanting that performance. However I would guess that by the time that you want to upgrade there will be newer, cheaper, and better technology.

So, with that in mind, buy the cheapest router (don't get a switch unless you really know what you are doing, which by asking your question you don't) that is still from a somewhat respectable supplier (so that it doesn't break in a few months).

Edit: Both the routers posted above will do you just fine. Yes they include Wifi which you don't care about but they are still cheap and decent. You can go slightly cheaper if you prefer. D-Link, Netgear, etc.
Viperskwa
Profile Joined July 2009
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 15:00:25
May 04 2012 14:57 GMT
#34
Pshhht. All of you are noobs. You want performance? Don't go out and buy a router, build it yourself. Get an old motherboard with any kind of processor. It just needs to be around 1Ghz or more. Get an old cpu case, some ram (even ddr1), a PSU, and make sure you have 2 network interface ports (addon card or dual mobo ports works). Then what you need to do is go here:

www.pfsense.org

Download the latest pfsense iso, either 32bit or 64 bit depending on your processor. Install it and then pm me for a full config that owns. I use this for both my home router and as a router for a 250+ man lan in Colorado Springs. The config I have allows you to download torrents/steam/blizzard/anything while being able to use VOIP such as skype and play any popular game without any lag. Zero lag, while torrenting. You want performance, this beats any router on the market that costs less than 200 USD.

Edit: any switch can increase the needed amount of ports or you can get another network interface card. A local computer parts store that sells used parts is great to get anything you don't currently have for really cheap. 10 bucks for a 10/100 intel nic anyone?
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 15:56:45
May 09 2012 15:54 GMT
#35
edit fixing on my own i think
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