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StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 01:20:07
December 30 2011 19:38 GMT
#1
Hi there,

So a few days ago I decided to clean my computer with some compressed air. After taking off the side panel and giving all the fans a thorough air shot, I plugged it back into my setup. About 10 minutes after turning it on, I noticed a peculiar burning plastic smell. I immediately turned the computer off and tried to investigate. I couldn't pin point exactly where it was coming from, but it was definitely inside the PC.

Anyways, fast forward to yesterday. I tried turning it on again thinking it was maybe a small piece of plastic melting or something negligible. I was surfing the internet for about 15 minutes and all of a sudden the computer turns off. Upon trying to turn it on again, the fans spin for about half a second, and then stop. The PSU seems to be providing power to the mobo, as the LEDs on the mobo are lit. I tried checking all connections to see if something got knocked loose, but I'm sure everything is connected properly at this point.

I'm not really sure what to do. I don't have access to another PSU so I can't really test that out. Anyone have any advice on how to solve this?

Thanks


UPDATE:

Hey guys, I managed to get a new PSU today and got it all set up. Computer turns on, everything seems great, it gets to desktop,and after about 15 seconds from that point it randomly turns off. I've checked connections, everything seems fine. Any suggestions?
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
December 30 2011 19:39 GMT
#2
Did you search first and look through this thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184096
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
December 30 2011 19:43 GMT
#3
my best bet:

On January 14 2011 03:09 Zisef wrote:
Yeah, i have had that happen before. Any time something seems to smell funny like burnt plastic that is mostly the power supply IMO. They power supply will continue to work but shut off sporadically exp. once a week then goes down to every couple of days then to every day then to every couple of hours then to 50/50 if it will power it up at all. when it gets to every couple hours. (I do it once it happens once a day or every couple of days to save my hardware) thats when you know you have to do something.

If you have any extra parts swap them out one at a time starting with power supply.(if it continues)

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StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
December 30 2011 19:44 GMT
#4
I just saw that Bippzy, I'm guessing that is likely what the problem is.
Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
December 30 2011 20:00 GMT
#5
what i usually do (and worked for me mostly at my work). Is open the case, and smell where it comes from... Power supply, cpu, memory, chipset, etc etc..
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Sxcerino
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:10:47
December 30 2011 20:10 GMT
#6
last time i had it happen was due to a defective power supply like what you've experienced; it actually shorted and broke everything (gfx, hdd, cd rom, etc)

for some reason the cpu was fine

hope for the best dawg
Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
December 30 2011 20:13 GMT
#7
I had a PSU break down but it didn't take anything else with it.

But like other have said if it is the PSU it is easily detectable from the smell being much more concentrated around it. Of course other components can burn out as well but PSUs seem common.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:17:26
December 30 2011 20:17 GMT
#8
Well first off it would be nice to know what components make up your computer. Especially PSU. Otherwise we are all pretty much just completely blind.

Secondly, check every single connection from the PSU. Make sure all plugs come out and go back in just fine.

Also check all capacitors, make sure none of them show signs of puffy cap or leaking or anything that looks like rust.
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cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
December 30 2011 20:49 GMT
#9
the problem with "clean my computer with some compressed air" is, that you change the air cycle direction with this sort of things.
you blow all the dirt deep into your heatsinkers.
its a bit like "trying to fix the TV by smashing it with a hammer"
if you want to clean your PC, remove the parts and clean them one by one.
i know it takes time, but hey.. see?
Live and let live
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
December 30 2011 21:14 GMT
#10
your power supply's toast. sorry man
SystemAddict
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)28 Posts
December 30 2011 21:19 GMT
#11
One time, the wires that connect the PC power button to the motherboard, I plugged them in the wrong spot.

I turned my computer on and it fried the wire. Now I have to press a button on the motherboard itself to turn it on. Which means opening the case's side panel everytime.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
December 30 2011 21:20 GMT
#12
On December 31 2011 06:19 SystemAddict wrote:
One time, the wires that connect the PC power button to the motherboard, I plugged them in the wrong spot.

I turned my computer on and it fried the wire. Now I have to press a button on the motherboard itself to turn it on. Which means opening the case's side panel everytime.

lol that reminds me of the time i messed up the usb front panel ports on the mobo.... melted the connectors LOL
pungk
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania61 Posts
December 30 2011 21:20 GMT
#13
psu is going into protection mode because it cant give enough power and just shuts down... most probably
SystemAddict
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)28 Posts
December 30 2011 21:22 GMT
#14
Yea. Chances are he reconnected some of the wires wrong. Bad thing about this situation is it could have screwed up his power supply, and his motherboard. You really have to pay attention when dis and reconnecting electrical wires.

Good luck.
deo1
Profile Joined April 2010
United States199 Posts
December 30 2011 21:22 GMT
#15
Probably not the issue here -- but one thing you can always check without extra parts is the RAM, provided you have more than one stick. Unplug each stick individually and see if the system runs.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 30 2011 21:31 GMT
#16
On December 31 2011 06:19 SystemAddict wrote:
One time, the wires that connect the PC power button to the motherboard, I plugged them in the wrong spot.

I turned my computer on and it fried the wire. Now I have to press a button on the motherboard itself to turn it on. Which means opening the case's side panel everytime.


Why don't you just wire up your own switch to the header? (unless you don't frequently turn it on and off)
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
December 30 2011 21:43 GMT
#17
On December 31 2011 05:49 cari-kira wrote:
the problem with "clean my computer with some compressed air" is, that you change the air cycle direction with this sort of things.
you blow all the dirt deep into your heatsinkers.
its a bit like "trying to fix the TV by smashing it with a hammer"
if you want to clean your PC, remove the parts and clean them one by one.
i know it takes time, but hey.. see?

You know.. you can detach it from the motherboard...and uh... get rid of the dust...
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cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
December 30 2011 21:58 GMT
#18
On December 31 2011 06:43 nalgene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 05:49 cari-kira wrote:
the problem with "clean my computer with some compressed air" is, that you change the air cycle direction with this sort of things.
you blow all the dirt deep into your heatsinkers.
its a bit like "trying to fix the TV by smashing it with a hammer"
if you want to clean your PC, remove the parts and clean them one by one.
i know it takes time, but hey.. see?

You know.. you can detach it from the motherboard...and uh... get rid of the dust...


that's exactly what i was saying;-)
Live and let live
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 30 2011 22:46 GMT
#19
On December 31 2011 06:31 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 06:19 SystemAddict wrote:
One time, the wires that connect the PC power button to the motherboard, I plugged them in the wrong spot.

I turned my computer on and it fried the wire. Now I have to press a button on the motherboard itself to turn it on. Which means opening the case's side panel everytime.


Why don't you just wire up your own switch to the header? (unless you don't frequently turn it on and off)


Lol that was my thought. Anything bridging the two pins will actually start up the PC. Could actually use a light switch if you wanted...

On December 31 2011 05:49 cari-kira wrote:
the problem with "clean my computer with some compressed air" is, that you change the air cycle direction with this sort of things.
you blow all the dirt deep into your heatsinkers.
its a bit like "trying to fix the TV by smashing it with a hammer"
if you want to clean your PC, remove the parts and clean them one by one.
i know it takes time, but hey.. see?


Uh wut? Hmm, okay, so I guess that cloud of dust that comes flying out at you must be teleporting from another dimension. And what's a heatsinker? What's an air cycle direction and how it being changed?

Seriously, this is total BS. Yes, individually cleaning components will result in cleaner components (duh) but there is nothing wrong with using compressed air. It actually does a pretty decent job of cleaning out stock P4 heatsinks (I know I've done dozens of 'em).

On December 31 2011 05:10 Sxcerino wrote:
last time i had it happen was due to a defective power supply like what you've experienced; it actually shorted and broke everything (gfx, hdd, cd rom, etc)

for some reason the cpu was fine

hope for the best dawg


This is because the CPU is not getting current directly from the PSU, it's traveling through a number of components on the mobo first. Though that doesn't mean a surge can't ruin the CPU.

To the OP: along with what everyone else has suggested, I think your PSU just died. I highly doubt this had anything to do with cleaning the PC, sometimes they just die. If the motherboard were the issue, the usual symptom is that the fans all turn on and stay on, and the PC never posts. The fact that they are turning on then off is a good indication that it is a PSU issue.
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HavokTheorem
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
New Zealand250 Posts
December 30 2011 23:10 GMT
#20
To add further testimony, yep this happened to me. I got a burning smell and my case got real hot. My crappy old 400W psu had died, fried the HDD and broke the optical drive.
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