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Yes, another mouse thread from me. From an objective standpoint, I can definitely see that mouse acceleration is bad, as it can mess up precise movements and mouse accuracy. On the basis of this, I decided to turn off mouse acceleration and adapt to that. However, this runs into a problem with the DPI of my mouse.
DPI increases the ratio of the movement of the cursor to the movement of the mouse. However, said differently, it also means that to make the smaller movements of the mouse (such as Marine to marine in a ball), the mouse has to move a very small amount.
This is where friction comes in. With friction, it is always harder to start a mouse moving than to keep it going, kind of like a dam holding back water. Eventually the force of your hand is great enough that your mouse moves. However, since it is easier to keep the mouse moving, there is a quick, short jump at the start where you need to slow down your mouse. This, at high DPI, makes it hard to short (0.3 cm or so) movements of the cursor on screen.
Mouse acceleration used to fix that, as I could move the mouse for a larger distance for a smaller movement of the cursor, or a larger movement of the cursor based on speed. Now that mouse acceleration is gone, I find it harder to do the small, necessary movements of micro.As far as turning down the DPI so that it is easier to be more precise, I run into the issue that it is now harder to move the cursor across the screen.
I was wondering if any of you have experienced this problem, as well as what you did to fix it. Get a newer, less friction mousepad? Turn down the DPI anyways? Adjust? Any advice would be helpful.
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Lower sc2 cursor speed, get faster handspeed etc etc. Its never going to be perfect. You get a mousepad with no friction you are going to complain that it slides too much and you still can't make those small adjustments and fly off the mousepad when whipping about.
You named all the things that accel gave you as benefits. There is always a give and take. Those things are going to be harder, but in return you get more consistent movement.
You are a man. Way back we had to kill mammoths. Now you're merely just moving a piece of plastic to click on virtual objects. Don't overthink it.
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Seriously, the friction youre talking abotu is so negligible its more a placebo effect. Smoothness/low friction isnt goign to make a difference to your mouse movements (not noticable at least), the force required to move your mouse is not anything big lols. Smoothness is more a comfort/feel thing than a precision thing. And as far as smoothness goes its not generally the mousepads fault, but your mouse feet, buy some new ones if the friction is annoying you, but again friction wont affect your precision at all.
if youre actually having trouble with small movements being hard to get precise, reduce your dpi, make them bigger movements. If you are truly having trouble with the small movements , then the movements are too small.
And from my own opinion as a hardcore competitive quake, cs 1,6 and cod4 player, You should get a big mousepad. Steelseries preferably, Qck + is my personal fave but any will do. Then if the movements are too small to get precise just turn sens/dpi down and do bigger movements,
This isnt as applicable to sc2 (rts in general)tho as sc players in general do have a higher sens,
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On June 23 2011 12:30 Omegalisk wrote:
This is where friction comes in. With friction, it is always harder to start a mouse moving than to keep it going, kind of like a dam holding back water. Eventually the force of your hand is great enough that your mouse moves. However, since it is easier to keep the mouse moving, there is a quick, short jump at the start where you need to slow down your mouse. This, at high DPI, makes it hard to short (0.3 cm or so) movements of the cursor on screen.
what.
are you having problems moving your mouse?.. either you attached weights to it or you're doing something very wrong..
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I had the same issue, I didnt know mouse acceleration is a bad habit. I turned it off but with my MX 518, the DPS would make it really difficult to make small movements. But over time I got used it, just takes some effort.
However, I did notice the drastic difference with acceleration on. It provides a supposed better "balance" when you have high sensitivity and dps IMO. But in games, especially in FPS I dont really notice it.
edit: After I turned it off of course.
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