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Xophy
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany79 Posts
February 28 2019 08:38 GMT
#12721
Ok, so there might be slight efficiency advantages when using a laptop. However, nowhere in the range of using 90 percent less power if we want to have similar performance levels. Thanks a lot guys!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 02:18:04
March 01 2019 01:52 GMT
#12722
Who manages to the USB standards group? How can we get companies to not use it, and ideally get them to all lose their job?

I'd rather have only proprietary standards from Qualcomm, Apple, and Intel, then have some brainiac make the most fucked up changes to names of standards in the history of the human race. With decisions like this, how can anyone possibly take them seriously? To me it discredits and intelligence and professionalism that they have, they are the last organization in the world I'd want to manage such a thing.

Man, I am so angry. I think this is some scam to keep IT salaries higher by needlessly making standards more complex than thet need to be, idk. Just ugh.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 02:27:11
March 01 2019 02:23 GMT
#12723
On March 01 2019 10:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Who manages to the USB standards group? How can we get companies to not use it, and ideally get them to all lose their job?

I'd rather have only proprietary standards from Qualcomm, Apple, and Intel, then have some brainiac make the most fucked up changes to names of standards in the history of the human race. With decisions like this, how can anyone possibly take them seriously? To me it discredits and intelligence and professionalism that they have, they are the last organization in the world I'd want to manage such a thing.

Man, I am so angry. I think this is some scam to keep IT salaries higher by needlessly making standards more complex than thet need to be, idk. Just ugh.


Sorry, is there context somewhere for your post?

edit: I guess it's something relating to this. https://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/3071803/usb-standards-group-introduces-confused-branding-plan-to-coincide-with-new-usb-32-standard
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
March 01 2019 04:38 GMT
#12724
On March 01 2019 11:23 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 10:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Who manages to the USB standards group? How can we get companies to not use it, and ideally get them to all lose their job?

I'd rather have only proprietary standards from Qualcomm, Apple, and Intel, then have some brainiac make the most fucked up changes to names of standards in the history of the human race. With decisions like this, how can anyone possibly take them seriously? To me it discredits and intelligence and professionalism that they have, they are the last organization in the world I'd want to manage such a thing.

Man, I am so angry. I think this is some scam to keep IT salaries higher by needlessly making standards more complex than thet need to be, idk. Just ugh.


Sorry, is there context somewhere for your post?

edit: I guess it's something relating to this. https://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/3071803/usb-standards-group-introduces-confused-branding-plan-to-coincide-with-new-usb-32-standard


Yeah, at first we had USB 3.0 which was 5Gbps, then they came up with 10 Gbps and called it USB 3.1... Now these products are out for a while and everything is all good.

Then for some reason they decide to change the naming of USB 3.0 to USB 3.1 Gen 1 and USB 3.1 to USB 3.1 Gen 2... Now the customers have to relearn everything, and the average person won't know, they'll probably mistake 3.1 Gen 1 and think they're getting 10gbps. Let's not forget all the confusion in the products that have been released and named in the year prior. And there's going to be a hell of a lot of confusion between products released previously without updated info, not to mention to cost to the manufacturers to update this information.

Now they came up with a 20gbps USB connection, instead of nicely building on the names (3.0, 3.1, 3.2 for 5,10,20 would have been perfectly reasonable)... They decide to change the names of all the standards once again. USB 3.2 Gen 1, USB 3.2 Gen 2, and USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 for 5, 10, and 20.

Not to mention that rather than sitting down and thinking about a good standard, they're releasing a new one every year, and rather than bringing one cable for all tasks like their claimed intention, instead we will have 10 different cables that nobody will know are up to what standard, and thus not know expected charging speeds and transfer rates.

The original idea of having 3.0 be blue, 3.1 be red to distinguish them was excellent, and much better than HDMI for example, where you have no idea. The first topic in the video here:

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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
March 02 2019 02:03 GMT
#12725
Don't hate too much, it's hard to run the marketing department of usb and nvidia at the same time
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-09 10:33:37
March 09 2019 06:04 GMT
#12726
Hey, I hope this is the right place to ask my question (mb should be on BW-Forum directly?):

My SC:Remaster seems to freeze (picture only, game runs on and I can issue inputs) since I hooked an external monitor to my laptop (Asus F555L). One picture/frame is shown forever, tabbing in-out doesn't do anything, I have to shut down the application.

I have the laptop-screen disabled. My PC has Win10. Drivers up to date. SC:R runs on windowed-fullscreen.

I'm not really a PC buff, I don't even know if SC:R runs on my geforce-card or on the on-board-card that laptop has. I just wanted to see if s.o. immediatelly recognizes this issue and/or has a short list of possible things I could do. If I had to go through hours of testing/error-searching I'd just play on laptop-screen again.

Thx in advance.


edit: sorry, "fixed", seems to be a problem of interference, always happens when I start and close a certain other game before SC:R
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-11 20:34:36
March 11 2019 19:05 GMT
#12727
Does anyone find crazy that chrome takes ~35 watt per hour more than IE if you just watch something on youtube, twitch or netflix?
edit: no difference at browsing but when you want to see a video/stream, there is the (big) difference!.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11481 Posts
March 11 2019 19:08 GMT
#12728
Watt per hour is rarely a useful unit. What you mean is "Watt". Watt is a measure of power, which is already energy divided by time.

You could say something like "It consumes 35 Watthours of energy per hour", but that is kinda silly when you can simply say "It uses 35 Watt of power".
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-11 21:17:11
March 11 2019 21:15 GMT
#12729
^This

There's a huge difference in power draw when stuff is hardware accelerated properly or not, when a GPU is in a different power state etc. A lot of that depends on exact software configurations.

For the last ~6 years my system has pulled 80 watts extra on the desktop just because Nvidia and AMD both require the GPU to be in a gaming power state when running two monitors with one of them above 60hz.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 09:09:33
March 12 2019 09:03 GMT
#12730
Yesterday I used an ammeter to all my elctrical stuff^^.
I also highly recommend to use fps-cap for menue of all games. It drawes a lot more power than playing the game...
...............no cap vs fpscap30 in menue (1055T & gtx1050)
sc2......... 195Watt vs 140Watt -frameratecapglue=30
Diablo3.. 188Watt vs 110Watt you find fps-cap in ingame options

...............no cap vs fpscap60 while playing
sc2......... 170Watt vs 155Watt -frameratecap=60
Diablo3.. 168Watt vs 135Watt you find fps-cap in ingame options
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
March 12 2019 12:21 GMT
#12731
sc2 already has an FPS cap of 63 in the menu but ya :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 12 2019 12:58 GMT
#12732
64bit does have a cap in menue. 32bit doesn't. Playing sc2 in 32bit version is better/faster for me. Same thing with Heroes of the Storm.

If you play with caps, do exactly as described here: https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/32248
then you won't have to do that everytime after each patch.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
March 12 2019 13:56 GMT
#12733
Oh really

Does 32-bit have any issues with memory limits now that they've added a ton of skins etc? I was one of the first to benchmark it being slower than 64 bit when it was in beta but the performance improved after that and i haven't looked at it for a few years.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 12 2019 15:08 GMT
#12734
You always get an alert of memory issue on first game after you switch from one to another version, even from 32bit to 64bit. Then never again.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 20:21:29
March 15 2019 20:19 GMT
#12735
are extern cd drives as good as intern? I think I need to buy one, only reading CD's/DVD's (install programs/games & copy stuffs from a CD). I don't need to burn CD's.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
March 15 2019 20:30 GMT
#12736
On March 16 2019 05:19 Dingodile wrote:
are extern cd drives as good as intern? I think I need to buy one, only reading CD's/DVD's (install programs/games & copy stuffs from a CD). I don't need to burn CD's.

You may just buy extern CD/DVD driver on USB - there's are rather cheap, don't require extra drivers and just work. I've been using them at previous work from time to time and there's really no reason to buy internal drive in most cases. I am not aware of real meaningful difference between external and internal drives.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11481 Posts
March 15 2019 20:32 GMT
#12737
And your use cases don't seem to require maximum speed or anything like that anyways. From what i can tell, you mostly want a working CD drive of any kind to sometimes use. In which case i would agree that you are probably better of with an external one, because you avoid the hassle of installing the internal one.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17246 Posts
March 17 2019 06:20 GMT
#12738
There are some edge cases with external drives related to installing old windows versions (e.g. 7) on newer motherboards, but when actually in Windows they're functionally the same. I think internal ones are still going to be faster on average, but that's mainly only relevant to the time it takes to install something.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 07:26:35
March 19 2019 07:23 GMT
#12739
There are some edge cases with external drives related to installing old windows versions (e.g. 7) on newer motherboards, but when actually in Windows they're functionally the same.


I found that it was literally impossible to install win7 for like the last 5 CPU gens without having an internal CD drive, a cd burner and a second internet-connected device. It's really ridiculous that it's harder to install an OS with basic functionality (like the ability to play audio or use anything via USB or ethernet) than it is to build the system!

In 2020 it will be somewhat understandable but not in 2015
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Sieget
Profile Joined March 2019
4 Posts
March 21 2019 04:25 GMT
#12740
In the Settings for Language options, for Spanish there are two options: "Espanol (ES) & Espanol (AS) What does the ES & AS stand for? I have an idea, but would like to confirm.
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