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WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
November 30 2015 13:18 GMT
#11361
Are you going to use the onboard videocard or getting a external? the onboard card of the 6500 should be significantly better, for the rest it's as you say. The one thing is more expensive for the one than the other. If you get the new one, you will have a newer mobo, so you can "upgrade" your system slightly better in a few years if warranted.

IMO it's a stylistic choice.
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
November 30 2015 17:06 GMT
#11362
4690k at 3.5Ghz (is overclockable) has a passmark score of 7724.
6500 at 3.2Ghz has a passmark score of 7005.

You only need the fancier mobo if you want to overclock.
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SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-30 17:33:11
November 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#11363
On November 30 2015 22:18 WonnaPlay wrote:
Are you going to use the onboard videocard or getting a external? the onboard card of the 6500 should be significantly better, for the rest it's as you say. The one thing is more expensive for the one than the other. If you get the new one, you will have a newer mobo, so you can "upgrade" your system slightly better in a few years if warranted.

IMO it's a stylistic choice.


I am going to buy either a GTX 970 or R9 390. Any adivce on this part also?
300€ for GTX 970, 335€ for R9 390 + 1 game.
Kinda the same issue.

On December 01 2015 02:06 Tephus wrote:
4690k at 3.5Ghz (is overclockable) has a passmark score of 7724.
6500 at 3.2Ghz has a passmark score of 7005.

You only need the fancier mobo if you want to overclock.


Indeed, I know that 4690k is more powerfull, but is it really worth it for gaming? (cause more expansive in the end)
Thank you for the help
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 30 2015 20:47 GMT
#11364
Blizzard did revise (!) their (minimal and recommended) system requirements for sc2 lotv. minimal: 2GB RAM.
https://eu.battle.net/support/de/article/systemanforderungen-sc2

Did I miss something or is this possible?! My RAM is always around 3.65GB when playing sc2 lotv. Nothing in Background except MSE.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17291 Posts
December 01 2015 00:07 GMT
#11365
Is the RAM being in use causing problems? Windows (and programs requesting) use as much RAM as is available. It's done very efficiently.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8884 Posts
December 01 2015 03:33 GMT
#11366
not really a hardware question but dont know where to ask so here goes
why does a word 07 docx document lose its format when opened in my word 2010?
note: the document was made on word 07 and viewed in 2010, not the other way around.

my understanding is that any file made on an earlier version of word should open fine on a newer version, however in my case the original file is opened with a broken format (spacing etc)
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
December 01 2015 03:34 GMT
#11367
Try hitting escape. Might be completely wrong, but you might need to change the view mode.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8884 Posts
December 01 2015 03:47 GMT
#11368
what exactly is pressing escape supposed to do? doesnt do anything on my screen so..
and by view mode do you mean 'print layout', 'full screen' etc? because that doesnt work
i think the problem is related to how the programs actually open the file. its just that in this particular situation i just dont see why it wouldnt open with the proper format like it should
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
December 01 2015 07:11 GMT
#11369
Did this .docx 'inherit' any functions or format from a word 2003 (or earlier) file?

Also there should be some kind warning or message when opening the file. What does that precisely say?
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 09:00:19
December 01 2015 08:27 GMT
#11370
On December 01 2015 09:07 Craton wrote:
Is the RAM being in use causing problems? Windows (and programs requesting) use as much RAM as is available. It's done very efficiently.


Zero problems in that circumstance. If I open a browser during sc2, I get a warning about not enough ram. This message come when it hits ~3.8GB Ram.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8884 Posts
December 01 2015 12:07 GMT
#11371
On December 01 2015 16:11 WonnaPlay wrote:
Did this .docx 'inherit' any functions or format from a word 2003 (or earlier) file?

Also there should be some kind warning or message when opening the file. What does that precisely say?

not sure what you mean, but the file was made from scratch on word 07
and theres no warning, pop up or anything of the sort. but spacing, font, breaks, alignments etc all go haywire when opened on my word 2010
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
December 01 2015 16:39 GMT
#11372
On December 01 2015 17:27 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 09:07 Craton wrote:
Is the RAM being in use causing problems? Windows (and programs requesting) use as much RAM as is available. It's done very efficiently.


Zero problems in that circumstance. If I open a browser during sc2, I get a warning about not enough ram. This message come when it hits ~3.8GB Ram.


The 32-bit client tries to use a lot less RAM i think
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12946 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 10:23:14
December 02 2015 10:21 GMT
#11373
Okay following my DA double click problems I might buy another mouse, I lurk a lot before doing so but I haven't been able to come to a conclusion yet...

Is there a good mouse for SC2 (claw grip) currently available in Europe?

Because I have read that 303's have rattling issues, Abyssus aren't really good for 2015 gaming (edit: and synapse 2.0 seems shit as fuck, messed up tracking a lot on my DeathAdder, so Razer seems a big nono nowadays)etc... So I'm a bit lost.

WriterMaru
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
December 02 2015 14:22 GMT
#11374
On December 01 2015 21:07 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 16:11 WonnaPlay wrote:
Did this .docx 'inherit' any functions or format from a word 2003 (or earlier) file?

Also there should be some kind warning or message when opening the file. What does that precisely say?

not sure what you mean, but the file was made from scratch on word 07
and theres no warning, pop up or anything of the sort. but spacing, font, breaks, alignments etc all go haywire when opened on my word 2010


Yes, that is what I meant.

You did get a message the first time opening this file right? You probably clicked yes, without reading the message and then the document became all messed up. That message then never appeared again. Could this be correct? I'm not trying to accuse you or anything. This would however explain your current situation for 100%, thus is why I ask.

Could you open the file in Word2010, then go to "File" --> "Options" --> "Advanced" --> Scroll all the way down and at the bottom there should be something like : "Format file as if it is made in :" (I don't have access to english office atm, so something similar). If this setting currently stands on Microsoft Word 2010, then change it to MS Word 2007.
Does that change anything/resolve the issue?

If that did not work, close all Office programs and then do this :
Go to "Start" --> "Control Panel" --> "Programs" --> "Programs and Features" --> Find "Microsoft Office <yourversion> 2010" --> "Repair". Wait untill repair is finished and then restart your computer.
This should solve a couple of possible issues, mainly any incorrect Word settings you might have (unknowingly) set wrong and all "first time prompts" should again prompt the question.
Now open your file again and see what happens. If it comes up with a warning, read it carefully. It should be self-explanatory. If you're not sure what you should choose, just ask here again

If all above doesn't work for your document, then it is a most likely problem in your particular document and it would need examining specifically to find the real solution.

evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8884 Posts
December 02 2015 23:00 GMT
#11375
yeah i really dont remember seeing a pop up but maybe i forgot.
i tried everything you said and nothing changed. no prompt even after the restart either
its frustrating because this isnt the only document that has had this happen.
its happened to 2 different documents, made by the same person on probably the same computer. maybe its the author's problem
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
December 03 2015 09:26 GMT
#11376
Ahh , you did not make it. Yes, there is a very high possibility that it's the authors fault (which is kinda what I meant with my last sentence).
The fact that you did all my steps, just ensures that the problem is not on your end (software-wise).
DontDropPlz
Profile Joined December 2015
15 Posts
December 03 2015 15:23 GMT
#11377
I have an i5 3570k @ 3.4ghz stock setting but I have an hyper 212 evo cooler as I plan to OC to 4 ghz.

I want to run @ 4k.

What do CPU/GPU need?

If that's too expensive, what do I need to run @ max settings 1080p?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 15:49:00
December 03 2015 15:48 GMT
#11378
On December 04 2015 00:23 DontDropPlz wrote:
I have an i5 3570k @ 3.4ghz stock setting but I have an hyper 212 evo cooler as I plan to OC to 4 ghz.

I want to run @ 4k.

What do CPU/GPU need?

If that's too expensive, what do I need to run @ max settings 1080p?


That depends on the game. Some games are CPU demanding, some are not. Some run worse, some better. Some need a 10x faster graphics card for the same resolution and framerate. Some people want to keep 80+FPS at all times, others are happy with ~20-30ish like a console

4k is generally much more GPU bound than 1080p but a large part of that is because people tend to play 4k at much lower FPS
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DontDropPlz
Profile Joined December 2015
15 Posts
December 04 2015 04:23 GMT
#11379
On December 04 2015 00:48 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 00:23 DontDropPlz wrote:
I have an i5 3570k @ 3.4ghz stock setting but I have an hyper 212 evo cooler as I plan to OC to 4 ghz.

I want to run @ 4k.

What do CPU/GPU need?

If that's too expensive, what do I need to run @ max settings 1080p?


That depends on the game. Some games are CPU demanding, some are not. Some run worse, some better. Some need a 10x faster graphics card for the same resolution and framerate. Some people want to keep 80+FPS at all times, others are happy with ~20-30ish like a console

4k is generally much more GPU bound than 1080p but a large part of that is because people tend to play 4k at much lower FPS


True. Upon doing some research I found Sc2 is not very GPU intensive, as say, CoH2.

A single GTX 960 4GB can handle sc2 @ 4k (youtubed) but I can't expect the same results for other games. Good point to consider.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10120 Posts
December 04 2015 16:56 GMT
#11380
any VPN recomendation? i want it to watch streams. i dont care if i have to pay
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