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Hi. I'm really a nub when it comes to these types of things.
I realized that my internet connection limits the amount of bandwidth I can use when I use things like internet games. What this means is that sometimes when I can watch youtube stright, I can't play starcraft because it asks for too much badnwidth i guess. Is there a way that I can limit how much bandwidth Starcraft II uses (hope I'm asking for the right thing) so that it runs at a lower speed and asks for less badnwidth so that the firewall/server or something doesn't limit the speed of my connection? Like instead of it using 100kbps it uses only 10kbps kind of like how I fix my torrent to do the same thing.
Any help will be appreciated. I'm getting really frustrated with this cuz I don't really know how to do these types of things :/ Hope I described what I mean properly...
Thanks Everybody!
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You can't limit the download speed of Starcraft 2 without incurring lag on yourself. During standard multiplayer play, SC2 dosen't actually use that much bandwidth anyway - I don't know the exact amount.
If you want to do so anyway, one easy way to limit the download speed of specific applications is Netlimiter.
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So you mean when you play a game the download of the youtube song is slower then the song and it stops sometimes because the download of the song is slow or do you mean something different. But think about this if you lower the speed sc2 gets information what will that do to your game?
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I mean that I'm able to download things on youtube at a faster speed than I am able to play Sc2. I was reading about the internet connection I use and poeple say that their server or something limits the amount of bandwidth each person can use especially when they use high demand programs such as torrents so what people do to be able to download with torrents is limit their download speed to within the limits set by the internet provider. I'd like to do the same thing with starcraft because maybe that might be my problem too. Unless there's something else that's causing my inet to slow down. Any suggestions?
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Okay I hope I am getting this right. To me it looks like you are trying to voice one of the current situations, because you have a lot of us confused. a) Your SC2 is using bandwidth that you want to be used for other things like YouTube.
I don't know how this would be that case and why you would want to change it if it was. SC2 barely uses any bandwidth; closing SC2 should make minimal difference in your bandwidth allocation for other programs.
b) Your other applications are using more bandwidth than you want, making your SC2 lag.
This would be the common problem, and there's a couple solutions. i) If your router has a QoS engine, prioritize SC2 traffic. ii) Control the bandwidth allocation of other programs through settings in those programs (ex. bandwidth limits in utorrent) iii) Using a 3rd party program such as the one TheLight linked to allocate bandwidth usage. iv) Get faster internet so everything can operate at full bandwidth without causing lag anywhere.
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On May 11 2011 15:01 eery1 wrote: I mean that I'm able to download things on youtube at a faster speed than I am able to play Sc2. I was reading about the internet connection I use and poeple say that their server or something limits the amount of bandwidth each person can use especially when they use high demand programs such as torrents so what people do to be able to download with torrents is limit their download speed to within the limits set by the internet provider. I'd like to do the same thing with starcraft because maybe that might be my problem too. Unless there's something else that's causing my inet to slow down. Any suggestions?
I don't know where to start with this, so I'll just let myself run off on a tangent.
I mean that I'm able to download things on youtube at a faster speed than I am able to play Sc2. This doesn't make any logical sense (no offense). You can't download things faster than you can play a game. You either lag in the game or you don't. There's no in between. If a connection speed plays SC2 without lag then a connection with a 10x faster speed won't play it any faster. You can't make something run faster that is already running at it's maximum possible speed with more bandwidth.
I was reading about the internet connection I use and poeple say that their server or something limits the amount of bandwidth each person can use especially when they use high demand programs such as torrents so what people do to be able to download with torrents is limit their download speed to within the limits set by the internet provider. This is what I was referring to in ii of point b in my previous post. Limiting the download speed of torrents is used to either leave bandwidth available for other programs or to simply keep the download (or upload I suppose) rate to a certain maximum so their ISPs don't put a cap on their future download speeds because they have been hogging the line that other internet users on their street are trying to use as well. It's not going to affect the total amount of data usage once the download has completed though.
I'd like to do the same thing with starcraft because maybe that might be my problem too. Unless there's something else that's causing my inet to slow down. Any suggestions? I'm still kind of left confused though. SC2 doesn't use enough bandwidth to make your ISP put a cap on your internet nor make YouTube buffer incredibly slow unless you have like dialup or something, which is why I thought you meant the opposite of what you said - that other programs are causing your SC2 to lag (I.E point b in my previous post).
If you limit the bandwidth your SC2 uses it's just going to make it lag, and likely won't make a noticeable difference in other programs.
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What computer do you have ? but mainly do you run the game at low settings and it lags if you get a lot of units ?
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+1 on the confused part! another alternative is he thinks his ISP is throttling his download speed, and he wants to limit sc2 bandwidth usage so it doesn't make his ISP do that; sc2 doesn't use any significant amount of bandwidth compared to for example torrenting so you don't need to worry about that being an issue. some ISP's have a limit on the amount of data you are allowed to transfer, usually each month i think, If you go above that amount they might throttle your speed or charge you extra. I even heard that some isps simply throttle high bandwidth users without ever telling them, but i have no idea to what extent that might happen. Limiting your torrenting speed won't help this at all though, what you want to do is simply download less stuff. It will help if you want to play starcraft2 at the same time as you download though. edit: i wrote this before grobyc edited his post above^^
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lol, sorry for confusing everybody. I'll try to go through everything that I know (which isn't a lot because again, I'm a nub at this so I'm just trying to explain what I'm seeing).
1. This might not even have to do with me adjusting bandwidth. It's just something that I though I could try becasue other people using the same internet service that I do when they download using their torrents say it works for them. They said that video games and torrents are "throttled" (like that one guy said) which, as I understand it, means that whatever programs they are using are being limited in their download ability so that everyone that uses that ISP can use the internet at the same time. What people do to "trick" the system is limit their torrent download speeds so that they don't get throttled. That way at least they are able to download faster than they would if they were throttled.
2. I'm pretty sure that it isn't a problem with my hardware because I'm able to play offline no problem. No lag at all. It has to do with my internet because of number 3...
3. While using the internet I check the connection speed by going to the internet connection statistics. The internet service provider I use has a program that shows how fast our internet goes etc. Recently, I have been having problems with playing starcraft because when I try to open it, the connection speed drops and hangs around 3kbps which is really laggy. It goes down to slow speeds like that even if no other programs are on besides starcraft. What I've noticed is that when turn off starcraft because i'm pissed becasue it's so laggy, my internet is working fine. I'm able to surf and go on things that I would think are more internet-intensive or whatver you call it like video streams or youtube and they can play straight at 700kbps without problems. Sometimes i try going on youtube then seeing that it's fast and then i go onto starcraft and it slows down and then i go back to youtube and then it's fast again so I think it has to do with starcraft.
4. I really dunno what to do. Ask me anything you want because I really dunno how to fix anything, thanks :D Please be patient with me because I'm just trying to explain what I see. I have no preconceived notions of how anything works or should work or whatever; I'm open to any advice.
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Point 3 sounds like a port specific issue with SC2 maybe? If you have a firewall killing port 1119 or a router sending all traffic to a different machine, it might get ugly when you try to play. While none of us appreciates greedy big brother ISPs, since the problem is SC2 specifically (a rather innocuous program) I would sooner expect it was a problem on your end.
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Yeah that sort of sounds like a firewall/antivirus issue throttling it and causing lag. SC2 won't use enough bandwidth to cause your ISP to cap your speeds, so the problem probably lies somewhere within your home network on your router or your computer. Do you have any antivirus/firewalls working in the background? Check task manager and minimized services in the bottom right corner. Have you tested if this happens in any other games?
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SC2 uses fuckall bandwidth, your issues are elsewhere.
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short answer. No.
also your logic on how much bandwidth games use is prettyyy fail.
Your isp sounds completely shitty also, threaten to cancel if they continue to throttle.
ive never heard of ispos throttling your games, however torrents will be throttled. NEVER dl torrents while playing games.
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I called up my ISP and they said that they do throttle torrents but that internet games are supposedly allowed. I tried checking my ports and i think that they're open.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rLbiK.jpg)
I don't have a router because I use wireless internet. I don't have any firewalls besides that if Windows XP SP3. What else can I fix?
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You don't need open ports for SC2 and SC2 uses trivial amounts of bandwidth (< 100kbps). Your problem is most likely an unstable wireless connection or a bad connection. Use www.pingtest.net to California to make sure your connection is good.
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On May 12 2011 13:18 eery1 wrote:I called up my ISP and they said that they do throttle torrents but that internet games are supposedly allowed. I tried checking my ports and i think that they're open. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rLbiK.jpg) I don't have a router because I use wireless internet. I don't have any firewalls besides that if Windows XP SP3. What else can I fix?
The problem could be your wireless. Wireless is really really bad for gaming, since you got to many packet loss etc. if it is possible for you, better gat a LAN connection to your Router. Also your "wirless internet" does include a Router , just for your understanding.
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