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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20325 Posts
December 06 2013 17:04 GMT
#2881
Perhaps the Rival is of interest to you
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
December 06 2013 22:52 GMT
#2882
http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Diablo-III-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B005L38QK2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386369668&sr=8-1&keywords=steelseries diablo iii

This is just the sensei raw + skin right?
☺
FLORIDACOMPACT
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany108 Posts
December 07 2013 06:38 GMT
#2883
On December 07 2013 01:44 Elasticity wrote:
. What's your grip style?
Palm
2. What's your sensitivity?
3500 dpi (400 when i play cs)
3. What's your maximum budget?
~40-60€
4. Do you want additional buttons?
7 would be nice
5. What games do you play?
Dota, some ARPG like PoE, CS:GO

Im currently using Razer Deathadder that I bought from 2011 (October-ish), it's basically my best mouse so far yet, the only complaint is the double click problem after 1 year (I tried to clean it inside, fixed for a few months then it happens again). I have seen great reviews for Sensei RAW but they are kinda expensive here on amazon (I live in germany). I'd like to know if there is any similar mouse to Razer Deathadder/Copperhead (like sensei) with 5 (optional: or more buttons)



zowie ec1 evo (or ec2).
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 11 2013 19:52 GMT
#2884
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip

2. What's your sensitivity?
1000 dpi

3. What's your maximum budget?
<$100

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Nope, don't care

5. What games do you play?
LoL, CS:GO, Dota 2

6. Other relevant information:
I was looking at the Deathadder, but with fairly large hands and a fingertip style, I was warned it's probably not a long enough mouse for me. I manhandle my Logitech M500 that I got forever ago and never bothered with a gaming mouse because I don't care for mouse buttons, but with Christmas around the corner I figured I'd use around $100 that I put away for gifts extra that I'm not going to end up using, and want a nice mouse. 130-180mm length range would be ideal, but as long as it's 125mm+ it won't be an issue.
Hey! How you doin'?
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 07:11:33
December 12 2013 06:51 GMT
#2885

1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip / Claw. Mostly finger tip.

2. What's your sensitivity?
Low to moderate.

3. What's your maximum budget?
I don't want a cheap mouse that will break soon, but I don't want a fancy expensive mouse. 70 would be the limit

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Not necessary.

5. What games do you play?
SC2 dominantly. Once in awhile Counter strike / LoL

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
I am not sure?

7. Other relevant information:
I've been looking at the sensei. I really like the shape of the mouse functionally and aesthetically, but I am quite hesitant to spend 60 dollars on a mouse that most people say is low quality, and has many issues!


Thanks!
Drone then Own
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
December 12 2013 07:09 GMT
#2886
On December 12 2013 15:51 Smigi wrote:
Hello, I wanted to ask people's opinion on the Steelseries Sensei Raw mouse.

My grip style is Fingertip, I play on moderate to low sensitivity. And I play starcraft exclusively, rarely some counter-strike or LoL.

Thanks!

I use the Sensei Raw, but personally I find it isn't especially suited to a fingertip/claw grip. It's definitely a palm mouse through and through. You're better off looking at smaller mice with your grip style. Some popular ones are the Logitech g9x, the CM Storm Spawn, and the Zowie MiCO.
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
December 12 2013 07:12 GMT
#2887
On December 12 2013 16:09 Celeritas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 15:51 Smigi wrote:
Hello, I wanted to ask people's opinion on the Steelseries Sensei Raw mouse.

My grip style is Fingertip, I play on moderate to low sensitivity. And I play starcraft exclusively, rarely some counter-strike or LoL.

Thanks!

I use the Sensei Raw, but personally I find it isn't especially suited to a fingertip/claw grip. It's definitely a palm mouse through and through. You're better off looking at smaller mice with your grip style. Some popular ones are the Logitech g9x, the CM Storm Spawn, and the Zowie MiCO.


Thank you for your reply sir! I've edited my post to give you better insight into my situation. I submitted it before you saw it!
Drone then Own
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 02:48:19
December 13 2013 02:45 GMT
#2888
I have been using the original Razer Imperator for two years now (bought December of 2010) and I wanted to share my experience. Prior to using the Imperator, I used a couple Logitech G5's which I liked a good deal.

When selecting the Imperator, I felt that the new design looked great, and felt more comfortable than the G5 or other mice on display. The ultra-light weight was very important. The matte finish is great, as are adjustable thumb buttons. Razer's "Synapse" keeps my DPI and profiles stored on-mouse, a brilliant idea. The 3.5G 5600dpi laser is very high quality, but more resolution than I need.

The mouse is very light, at 2.3 ounces (65g), not including the cord. The tracking is exceptional, even at the highest speeds, using a hard mouse surface. Having 5 programmable DPI presets is great for fine-tuning, and moving between surfaces, monitors, and activities. The feedback from the primary and secondary buttons is what set the mouse apart from my previous mouses. The thumb buttons are incredibly sturdy, letting you keep your thumb on them while mousing accurately - and you can adjust them.

The ergonomics are outstanding, and I can't say enough about the excellent shape of the mouse, particularly near the mouse buttons. The right/outside of the mouse felt a little too convex for me at first, but I noticed that it provides consistent and balanced leverage for your fingers when lifting and re-positioning the mouse. Easily fixed when discovering the adjustable thumb buttons.

My grip: Finger-tip, sometimes claw. My sensitivity: 2800dpi. I paid around $80 for the mouse, and use it for RTS, FPS, RPGs, and everything else.

I also wanted to point out that the OP contains the full weight of each mouse, including the cord. It'd be great to see the weight of the mouse only, as the cord weight is mostly irrelevant for non-laptop users.
Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
December 13 2013 08:56 GMT
#2889
On December 07 2013 15:38 FLORIDACOMPACT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 01:44 Elasticity wrote:
. What's your grip style?
Palm
2. What's your sensitivity?
3500 dpi (400 when i play cs)
3. What's your maximum budget?
~40-60€
4. Do you want additional buttons?
7 would be nice
5. What games do you play?
Dota, some ARPG like PoE, CS:GO

Im currently using Razer Deathadder that I bought from 2011 (October-ish), it's basically my best mouse so far yet, the only complaint is the double click problem after 1 year (I tried to clean it inside, fixed for a few months then it happens again). I have seen great reviews for Sensei RAW but they are kinda expensive here on amazon (I live in germany). I'd like to know if there is any similar mouse to Razer Deathadder/Copperhead (like sensei) with 5 (optional: or more buttons)



zowie ec1 evo (or ec2).


The ec1 evo max DPI is 2100.
Praise the sun! \o/
Sicion
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany131 Posts
December 13 2013 12:59 GMT
#2890
On December 02 2013 02:39 Djzapz wrote:
I wouldn't be so surprised if the mouse was broken and unusable, but it's not. It works, it's just annoying.

You can hear the sound it makes here:
https://www.mediafire.com/?k2qien6mq6ucgq2

My old mx518 refresh has recently started to make the same noises when i right click. Its still ususable but it gets really annoying after some time.
I will have to get the g400s which is basicly the same mouse but i dont like the new logitech designs at all.
First world problem. :/
There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want.
FLORIDACOMPACT
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany108 Posts
December 13 2013 14:26 GMT
#2891
On December 13 2013 17:56 Shottaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 15:38 FLORIDACOMPACT wrote:
On December 07 2013 01:44 Elasticity wrote:
. What's your grip style?
Palm
2. What's your sensitivity?
3500 dpi (400 when i play cs)
3. What's your maximum budget?
~40-60€
4. Do you want additional buttons?
7 would be nice
5. What games do you play?
Dota, some ARPG like PoE, CS:GO

Im currently using Razer Deathadder that I bought from 2011 (October-ish), it's basically my best mouse so far yet, the only complaint is the double click problem after 1 year (I tried to clean it inside, fixed for a few months then it happens again). I have seen great reviews for Sensei RAW but they are kinda expensive here on amazon (I live in germany). I'd like to know if there is any similar mouse to Razer Deathadder/Copperhead (like sensei) with 5 (optional: or more buttons)



zowie ec1 evo (or ec2).


The ec1 evo max DPI is 2100.


doesn't matter as he is most likely not using that high sensitivity anyways (and 400 dpi in cs!)
nohbdy_
Profile Joined December 2013
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 19:20:53
December 13 2013 19:19 GMT
#2892
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip; palm on bigger mice.

2. What's your sensitivity?
Medium (~25.4 cm/360 or ~10in/360)

3. What's your maximum budget?
$65

4. Do you want additional buttons?
I'm happy with or without extra buttons.

5. What games do you play?
Team Fortress 2, Dota 2.

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes; no angle snapping please.

7. Other relevant information:
If possible: driver-less, small-medium size, no built in acceleration.
FLORIDACOMPACT
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany108 Posts
December 14 2013 09:40 GMT
#2893
On December 14 2013 04:19 nohbdy_ wrote:
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip; palm on bigger mice.

2. What's your sensitivity?
Medium (~25.4 cm/360 or ~10in/360)

3. What's your maximum budget?
$65

4. Do you want additional buttons?
I'm happy with or without extra buttons.

5. What games do you play?
Team Fortress 2, Dota 2.

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes; no angle snapping please.

7. Other relevant information:
If possible: driver-less, small-medium size, no built in acceleration.


logitech g100s or zowie mico
nohbdy_
Profile Joined December 2013
United States2 Posts
December 14 2013 17:01 GMT
#2894

logitech g100s or zowie mico

I took a look at the Zowie MiCO and it looked good for me; went ahead and bought it.
Thank you!
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
December 15 2013 23:33 GMT
#2895
Hi everyone.

I''m looking for something that has a ~600 CPI setting and a ~1600-1800 CPI setting. I also do want a practically 'flawless" sensor with no acceleration, tracking issues, egregious smoothing, latency...

Light is preferable.
Not too large, medium/small.

As for the shape, I'd have to look at the mouse or try it out to know if I'll like it or not.
I like the shape of the Roccat Savu and Kone pure. In fact I almost picked up a Kone pure for $44 on black friday but the Avago 9800 held me back.

I'd also like a pretty slick mousepad to go with it, something at least as quick as a Razer goliathus speed.
I use about 40cm/360 so it needs to be a medium sized mat.

Thanks.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20325 Posts
December 16 2013 04:46 GMT
#2896
Maybe CM Storm Spawn
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 11:23:03
December 16 2013 11:15 GMT
#2897
I have a Death Adder 3.5G Black Edition and have been using the 1.02 drivers for it, but wondering if I should give the Synapse drivers a try? Last time I tried them on my previous DA, it was frustrating as I could never get the mouse to feel the same way as the legacy drivers. Have they improved from ~1 year ago enough to the point where it's worth trying to use them again?
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
December 16 2013 13:38 GMT
#2898
On December 16 2013 20:15 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I have a Death Adder 3.5G Black Edition and have been using the 1.02 drivers for it, but wondering if I should give the Synapse drivers a try? Last time I tried them on my previous DA, it was frustrating as I could never get the mouse to feel the same way as the legacy drivers. Have they improved from ~1 year ago enough to the point where it's worth trying to use them again?



It´s better now for sure. There´s still this online/cloud thing...
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
December 16 2013 13:52 GMT
#2899
On December 16 2013 22:38 kinsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 20:15 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I have a Death Adder 3.5G Black Edition and have been using the 1.02 drivers for it, but wondering if I should give the Synapse drivers a try? Last time I tried them on my previous DA, it was frustrating as I could never get the mouse to feel the same way as the legacy drivers. Have they improved from ~1 year ago enough to the point where it's worth trying to use them again?



It´s better now for sure. There´s still this online/cloud thing...

Which is one of the reasons I'm thinking about wanting to switch over to Synapse. There's a high chance I'll be doing a lot of traveling in 2014, and being able to easily bring settings over to new PCs will be handy.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
fencer
Profile Joined October 2011
122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 18:28:33
December 16 2013 18:25 GMT
#2900
I have a Razer Salmosa SE (the tiny one) and find the size perfect for my fingertip grip. The only problem is that the technology inside it is getting a bit old (crude switches, forced angle-snapping etc). I have a CM Storm Spawn as well but find it too chunky and big even though it's supposed to be for fingertippers.

Is there any modern mouse with a tiny size like the Salmosa SE but with better technology?
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