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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
On December 13 2010 02:10 Drey wrote: Can someone help me find a decent keyboard non mechanical around the price or below G15 ? every nonmechanical logitech / steelseries/ razer gaming keyboard is not worth its money. Get a Qsenn or any keyboard you are comfortable with! | ||
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kerr0r
Norway319 Posts
On a side note, I ordered mine from getdigital.de and... Well: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/kcUQU.jpg) Yup, candy and Fuckin' magnets (four 5mm cubes of neodymium goodness). Yes, I realize this is a viral marketing scheme on their part. It worked. Edit: Turns out they actually mailed me a model S Silent, not regular. Not a problem imo, the keys are loud enough as they are.  | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On December 13 2010 02:10 Drey wrote: Can someone help me find a decent keyboard non mechanical around the price or below G15 ? Microsoft sidewinder x4 is a great keyboard for mmo's and fps and still works for rts it's keys are half height so they still stick up and out and aren't completely flat. could have picked one up for 25 bucks during black friday you can find them for around 40-50 though without the deal. | ||
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Zerran
Austria12 Posts
I can only compare it to the cherry G80 with the cherry clear switches, but so far I have to say, I like the clear version more than the blues. The sound is pretty annoying. It's not like the blues are much louder than the clears, and the clicking part isn't even that loud. It just sounds.. kind of hollow. The sound of the clears is more low pitched, paired with the heavier actuation force, you're getting the feeling of using a quality product. The blues emit a really high pitched noise, together with the click and the real light keys, it just feels "cheap" to me. The feel is okay, but I've had better rubberdomes to be honest. With the cherry blues I can't really press the keys just far enough to activate the switch like I can with the clears. I always bottom out the keys on the blues, because it requires much less force to push them down. Also, I do have problems with double tapping. Spamming 4qqqqqqqq didn't always produce 8 workers for me. And even writing that right now, I had to press "q" 9 times because it didn't register the press one time. So the blue is definitely a no go for me. don't like it for gaming, don't like it for typing, don't like it for anything to be honest. Now I don't know wheter I should even give the cherry browns a try, or if I should just stick with the clears. If the browns really feel lighter than the blues, I don't know if they're right for me. | ||
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genra
Germany42 Posts
i found the clears boring, the only switches i would like to try now are browns. | ||
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Zerran
Austria12 Posts
But it turned out it's a huge deal for me. Didn't expect that. Really disappointed with the cherry blues. I really wanted to like them. I'm using the cherry clears at work now, and everyday when I come home and have to use my rubberdome keyboard it feels like I'm using a toy. Still, I wouldn't get a mechanical keyboard strictly for gaming, because in my experience, it makes absolutely NO difference at all. I can't say it improved my accuracy. The awesome feel of mechanical keyboards is not noticeable to me when gaming, but it sure is when I'm typing. I might just grab a used DAS keyboard on ebay just so I can say I tried them all. Definitely sending back the G-80 with the blues. | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
maybe there is a difference between the g80 and the filco... but i absolutely love the cherry blues :D | ||
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Zerran
Austria12 Posts
The problem lies in releasing the keys because the reset point is higher than the activation point. You press the key, the you want to release it, you feel the bump when releasing and you want to press the key again but the switch hasn't deactivated. You feel the bump, your brain goes:" time to press the next key" but in reality you have to let go even further. That kinda makes the tactile bump counter-intuitive. It feels completely unnatural to me. | ||
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kerr0r
Norway319 Posts
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djcube
United States985 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
http://www.diatec.co.jp/products/index.php http://www.diatec.co.jp/en/list.php?cate_c=1 (English language) Also just a search for filco on Rakuten brings up lots. http://www.rakuten.co.jp/ EDIT: I'm often playing in an environment where I need to keep the noise to a minimum. I know mechanical keyboards are loud. Can anyone with browns give me an idea of how much quieter they are than the blues or blacks? Thinking maybe I should try one. | ||
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Kelsin
United States253 Posts
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Kelsin
United States253 Posts
On December 14 2010 01:23 kerr0r wrote: Edit: Turns out they actually mailed me a model S Silent, not regular. Not a problem imo, the keys are loud enough as they are. Just means brown switches instead of blue. I think that's a plus! | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On December 21 2010 10:02 FragKrag wrote: The G80 is one of the cheapest mechanical boards you can buy. They hover at around $70 most of the time. Are we talking about second hand ones? G80 is like 4400 TWD on pchome which is about 100+ USD. | ||
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Turing
United States211 Posts
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DDKz
Australia188 Posts
Here's my options and reasoning's behind them. I'll put them in a spoiler tag so the post isn't too long if you don't want to read it. + Show Spoiler + Filco Majestouch Blue Switch. This was my first choice but I think the sound would be too annoying to the people around me so it's kind of a non-option atm. Filco Majestouch Black Switch. I love the Filco boards and I want the feelings and sound of the mech switches and I don't want the silence of the brown, Is this the board that's least likely to annoy people but still feel and sound awesome to me? Steelseries 7g: I love the look and sound of this board but I lacks the obvious awesomeness in looks and customization of the Filco's.. (eg. Red and Blue keys, or the limited edition ItalianRed and ElectricBlue faceplates. It's worth noting that when I buy one of these keyboards I plan to have it for a long time so I need to make the perfect decision, I feel like it would be worth it to go with the Filco because of the customization features making it less likely for me to get "bored" with it, but the Steelseries 7g looks so bulky and nice. Thanks for any advice. Edit: Oh and also when I decide which one to buy and it gets here I will post my first impressions and a review or something if anyone wants. | ||
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antas
Indonesia300 Posts
On December 22 2010 18:28 DDKz wrote: Hi guys, great thread. I'm wondering (and hoping) if I can get some help. Over the past 2 weeks I've been doing some basic research on Mech Keyboards because I'm extremely interested in them and want to buy one soon. Here's my options and reasoning's behind them. I'll put them in a spoiler tag so the post isn't too long if you don't want to read it. + Show Spoiler + Filco Majestouch Blue Switch. This was my first choice but I think the sound would be too annoying to the people around me so it's kind of a non-option atm. Filco Majestouch Black Switch. I love the Filco boards and I want the feelings and sound of the mech switches and I don't want the silence of the brown, Is this the board that's least likely to annoy people but still feel and sound awesome to me? Steelseries 7g: I love the look and sound of this board but I lacks the obvious awesomeness in looks and customization of the Filco's.. (eg. Red and Blue keys, or the limited edition ItalianRed and ElectricBlue faceplates. It's worth noting that when I buy one of these keyboards I plan to have it for a long time so I need to make the perfect decision, I feel like it would be worth it to go with the Filco because of the customization features making it less likely for me to get "bored" with it, but the Steelseries 7g looks so bulky and nice. Thanks for any advice. Edit: Oh and also when I decide which one to buy and it gets here I will post my first impressions and a review or something if anyone wants. Hi mate, welcome to the mech club IMO, first of all you should base your consideration on what are you going to do with the keyboard? Are you going to use it mostly for typing? Or are you going to use it mainly for gaming? What type of gaming? I was probably going the same thing as you, I did some research, look others opinion and then watching/listening videos of some keyboards, and finally going to the market to feel it with my own hands. In the end I choose FILCO brown. (I tried blue and black too before I decided). My reason for brown: 1. I use my keyboard mostly for typing, and for light gaming. I play mostly soccer (FIFA series) with my rumblepad, and some RTS (mainly SC2). So for this reason it seems that blue/brown is the only way to go. I don't really like the feel of black switch when typing on it. Black might be good for FPS or any games that mostly will be bottoming the keyboard. 2. The sound. I found that I actually like the sound of blue the most. But the clicking sound might be annoying for my house mate. So I decided to get the brown in the end. Now it comes the fun part: Even the sound of the brown is not as silent as I expected to be, lol. To make the sound minimum I supposed you need to be a touch typist (without hammering/bottoming the keys too much). Although it doesn't have the clicking sound, but the sound when the keycap hits the bottom and when it bounce back is still a bit loud :D So, again I think you'll need to consider on what are you going to do with it first before jumping to conclusion. Cheers ^^ | ||
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antas
Indonesia300 Posts
On December 21 2010 11:53 chocopan wrote: For Japanese: http://www.diatec.co.jp/products/index.php http://www.diatec.co.jp/en/list.php?cate_c=1 (English language) Also just a search for filco on Rakuten brings up lots. http://www.rakuten.co.jp/ EDIT: I'm often playing in an environment where I need to keep the noise to a minimum. I know mechanical keyboards are loud. Can anyone with browns give me an idea of how much quieter they are than the blues or blacks? Thinking maybe I should try one. My post above might give you some hint. If you really need a silent keyboard, I think mechanical keyboard is not the answer. I yet to find a silent mechanical keyboard. Some rubber domes and scissor switch is quieter in my experience. But yes, compare with blue / black, I think brown is less louder. Perhaps between black and brown is similar, or black is slightly less louder due to non tactile and non clicky. Find some vids on tube if you can't try it first hand to give you a more proper idea. | ||
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DDKz
Australia188 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:52 antas wrote: Hi mate, welcome to the mech club IMO, first of all you should base your consideration on what are you going to do with the keyboard? Are you going to use it mostly for typing? Or are you going to use it mainly for gaming? What type of gaming? I was probably going the same thing as you, I did some research, look others opinion and then watching/listening videos of some keyboards, and finally going to the market to feel it with my own hands. In the end I choose FILCO brown. (I tried blue and black too before I decided). My reason for brown: 1. I use my keyboard mostly for typing, and for light gaming. I play mostly soccer (FIFA series) with my rumblepad, and some RTS (mainly SC2). So for this reason it seems that blue/brown is the only way to go. I don't really like the feel of black switch when typing on it. Black might be good for FPS or any games that mostly will be bottoming the keyboard. 2. The sound. I found that I actually like the sound of blue the most. But the clicking sound might be annoying for my house mate. So I decided to get the brown in the end. Now it comes the fun part: Even the sound of the brown is not as silent as I expected to be, lol. To make the sound minimum I supposed you need to be a touch typist (without hammering/bottoming the keys too much). Although it doesn't have the clicking sound, but the sound when the keycap hits the bottom and when it bounce back is still a bit loud :D So, again I think you'll need to consider on what are you going to do with it first before jumping to conclusion. Cheers ^^ Thank you for your response, I will be using the keyboard for various game including SC2, HoN and on occasion WoW. Ofcourse I will use it for typing but not in a serious fashion (writing papers ect). I think my original thoughts on the Brown switches was quite wrong as it actually still produces quite a beautiful sound. I don't have any way of testing before I buy because of where I live so I have to base the sound/feel off youtube videos and a keyboard simulator which I'm not even sure is accurate. Again thank you for your response, so far I think I'm gonna go with the Filco Majestouch brown switch. | ||
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