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Ubes
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 01:15:46
January 16 2011 01:05 GMT
#101
So I've been looking for a new keyboard for quite some time now but can't find exactly what I want. One of my main concerns is sound. I've looked around quite a bit for a review comparing the loudness from one keyboard to another but haven't had much luck. I'm assuming the different switches have different loudness levels, please correct me if i'm wrong. Originally I was going to get the Das Silent keyboard but after seeing a review on Youtube it seems they are not so silent. Another thing I really want is a keyboard with 2 USB ports in it. The Das & 7g have this I know the Blackwidow Ultimate has1 is there anymore options with USB ports I do not know about? Lastly is cost, I don't want to spend more than $150 on it which I don't think would be a problem but you never know.

tl:dr I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard that has 2 usb ports, isn't very loud and is under $150.

Thanks
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
January 16 2011 01:11 GMT
#102
On January 16 2011 10:05 Ubes wrote:
tl:dr I'm looking for a keyboard that has 2 usb ports, isn't very loud and is under $150.


keyboards with USB ports aren't common because they aren't allowed to be powered with just one USB connector. Just get a powered USB hub from dealextreme or whatever, they're cheap

Microsoft Sidewinder x4 / x6 have fairly quiet buttons
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 01:31:50
January 16 2011 01:22 GMT
#103
Well powered is very different, also most are usb 1.0 not 2.0 which are very different.
in terms of performance
With a keyboard that only takes up 1 usb spot you can only hope for one usb 2.0 port on that keyboard to be nearly fully functional.

2 of them would just end up not at all powered only way to solve that would be to use another usb port or add a power brick. In otherwords expect usb ports on your computer case not on your keyboard and if you do only expect one.

Also you wont find a mechanical keyboard that's quiet and "tactile" part of it being tactile is it making a click.
Herpadurr
Profile Joined January 2011
Monaco151 Posts
January 16 2011 02:47 GMT
#104
On January 16 2011 10:05 Ubes wrote:
tl:dr I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard that has 2 usb ports, isn't very loud and is under $150.

Thanks


The Das has 2 USB 2.0 ports and 2 USB plugs, one for the keyboard (with or without PS/2 adapter), the other for the hub.
Should the hub not be able to power everything that's plugged into it, it shuts off one port.

tl;dr: get the Das, it's a fine keyboard.
Get the Silent one if you need to but I recommend the clicky. The click itself isn't as loud as the internet wants to make you think and the sound is very nice.
You're stupid. Stop it.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
January 16 2011 02:52 GMT
#105
Can anyone direct me towards a good illuminated Japanese keyboard?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 04:25:57
January 16 2011 04:17 GMT
#106
On January 16 2011 11:47 Herpadurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 10:05 Ubes wrote:
tl:dr I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard that has 2 usb ports, isn't very loud and is under $150.

Thanks


The Das has 2 USB 2.0 ports and 2 USB plugs, one for the keyboard (with or without PS/2 adapter), the other for the hub.
Should the hub not be able to power everything that's plugged into it, it shuts off one port.

tl;dr: get the Das, it's a fine keyboard.
Get the Silent one if you need to but I recommend the clicky. The click itself isn't as loud as the internet wants to make you think and the sound is very nice.

silent is brown, normal is blue, what most people don't like about blue is not the volume of the noise but the pitch.

And yeah essentially to get the 2 usb 2.0 ports they made a usb hub and shoved it into the keyboard which just seems like lazy designing.

On January 16 2011 11:52 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Can anyone direct me towards a good illuminated Japanese keyboard?

Just change the input language in your os and buy a backlit keyboard.
ランドmsツfsdlkジャsヂfサdジョfオンlyイf typing random Japanese characters sweet.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
January 16 2011 05:54 GMT
#107
On January 16 2011 13:17 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 11:47 Herpadurr wrote:
On January 16 2011 10:05 Ubes wrote:
tl:dr I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard that has 2 usb ports, isn't very loud and is under $150.

Thanks


The Das has 2 USB 2.0 ports and 2 USB plugs, one for the keyboard (with or without PS/2 adapter), the other for the hub.
Should the hub not be able to power everything that's plugged into it, it shuts off one port.

tl;dr: get the Das, it's a fine keyboard.
Get the Silent one if you need to but I recommend the clicky. The click itself isn't as loud as the internet wants to make you think and the sound is very nice.

silent is brown, normal is blue, what most people don't like about blue is not the volume of the noise but the pitch.

And yeah essentially to get the 2 usb 2.0 ports they made a usb hub and shoved it into the keyboard which just seems like lazy designing.

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 11:52 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Can anyone direct me towards a good illuminated Japanese keyboard?

Just change the input language in your os and buy a backlit keyboard.
ランドmsツfsdlkジャsヂfサdジョfオンlyイf typing random Japanese characters sweet.

Will that affect my ability to type in both English and Japanese? I need both functions, and from what I understand, a Japanese keyboard will allow me to do both. (I already have a razer Lycosa).
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 06:22:23
January 16 2011 06:21 GMT
#108
On January 16 2011 14:54 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 13:17 semantics wrote:
On January 16 2011 11:47 Herpadurr wrote:
On January 16 2011 10:05 Ubes wrote:
tl:dr I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard that has 2 usb ports, isn't very loud and is under $150.

Thanks


The Das has 2 USB 2.0 ports and 2 USB plugs, one for the keyboard (with or without PS/2 adapter), the other for the hub.
Should the hub not be able to power everything that's plugged into it, it shuts off one port.

tl;dr: get the Das, it's a fine keyboard.
Get the Silent one if you need to but I recommend the clicky. The click itself isn't as loud as the internet wants to make you think and the sound is very nice.

silent is brown, normal is blue, what most people don't like about blue is not the volume of the noise but the pitch.

And yeah essentially to get the 2 usb 2.0 ports they made a usb hub and shoved it into the keyboard which just seems like lazy designing.

On January 16 2011 11:52 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Can anyone direct me towards a good illuminated Japanese keyboard?

Just change the input language in your os and buy a backlit keyboard.
ランドmsツfsdlkジャsヂfサdジョfオンlyイf typing random Japanese characters sweet.

Will that affect my ability to type in both English and Japanese? I need both functions, and from what I understand, a Japanese keyboard will allow me to do both. (I already have a razer Lycosa).
to be honest i don't type in two languages so i don't know how hard it is to use it
http://www.itechtalk.com/thread11582.html
But i don't see how a usb keyboard from japan would function any more efficiently then having to manually switch between the two on the os side.
from what i've seen it only takes 1 2 clicks to switch between the language or if you binded a key. the only trick is remembering all the keys so you dont need on screen display
XGs_Ghost
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1 Post
January 28 2011 16:49 GMT
#109
DO NOT GO WITH NON MECHANICAL KEYBOARDS SUCH AS RAZER MARAUDER!

Everyone please don't consider any keyboard that is NOT mechanical.

I bought the Filco Majestouch - Cherry Brown switches and it's THE BEST 160 BUCKS I HAVE EVER SPENT ON GAMING!

sc2 is alot more fun now, my old LYCOSA SUCKED! god what a piece of crap that lycosa was.

Filco Majestouch - Cherry Browns (best keyboard out there for sure!)

You can also go with Das Keyboard as long as you get Cherry browns (or blues if you like to type alot too)

I wouldn't say that i'm way better with my Filcos, but I enjoy the game alot more. I'm not just some noob suggesting bs either, I'm in master league and trust me get mechanical keyboards preferably cheery mx browns.
iown
Jago
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland390 Posts
January 28 2011 17:30 GMT
#110
^^

It's pretty much true. Once you try a decent mechanical, you will not want to go back, ever.
Naftali
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
January 28 2011 22:11 GMT
#111
You do not need a "Japanese" keyboard to type in Japanese. In fact I don't believe there is any language that requires a keyboard with a layout other than the standard Roman QWERTY. I use Alt-Shift to 日本語に変わる.

Many keyboards designed for foreign markets have extra labels on them. There's an option in most IMEs (Input Method Editors, the part of your OS that determines how the stuff you type on the keyboard comes out) to type in Japanese where one key = one kana character, but that's difficult and most native speakers don't type like that. Most use the method where you type the character out in roman characters and it comes out in Japanese kana, then you choose the kanji that you need. Japanese-market keyboards usually have the kana labels on them, just in case you want to use them that way. French-market keyboards have the keys for the accents labeled, but you can use an American keyboard to type perfect French just fine, and vice-versa.

I have a Razer Lycosa myself, and I've generally liked it the last few years, but I'm going to switch to a mechanical. I really would like a definitive answer on whether the Das Keyboard Silent is significantly quieter than most mechanicals. While I wouldn't expect it to be as quiet as a laptop or something, is it comparable to, say a cheap Dell membrane?
pinke
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States56 Posts
January 28 2011 22:31 GMT
#112
what's a good keyboard for little hands? My friend has a Lycosa and I think I'm leaning towards that
but then I think that rain is wet, so who am I to judge?
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
January 28 2011 23:48 GMT
#113
On January 29 2011 07:31 pinke wrote:
what's a good keyboard for little hands? My friend has a Lycosa and I think I'm leaning towards that


Ugh, don't get the lycosa. If you are going to spend that much on a keyboard, just get the black widow.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 00:02:56
January 29 2011 00:01 GMT
#114
for that money get a sidewinder x6 razer keyboards like their audio products have a pretty shotty build quality reputation. And at least the x6 have full 6+4 key rollover and a swaping numpad for those who like small keyboards along with all the ususal media keys etc.
Ket
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom124 Posts
January 29 2011 00:47 GMT
#115
I got the filco majestouch tenkeyless with brown switches, and a separate usb filco numberpad also with brown switches:D Def want the numberpad for a few things and liking that setup way more (with numberpad to the left of the keyboard) more than just a full keyboard with numpad to the right of the other keys
aneruok
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada122 Posts
January 31 2011 04:54 GMT
#116
Im looking to change keyboards. im currently using a g11 logitech keyboard but its so annoying move around with.

Im looking at these keyboards and none of them have a space between the caps lock and A key.
I was wondering if that customizable or something.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 07:08:27
January 31 2011 05:02 GMT
#117
You mean the double wide space between the a and caps lock on logitech gaming keyboards?
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i only know logitech that does that none of the logitech keyboards are very probable in terms of size, if you want a portable keyboard go get a sidewinder x6 and lop off the num pad when you don't need it. Although personally i rather spend 20 less and get a x4 which has like 11 key rollover which i can probably find on sale for around 30-40 which is all you need in a keyboard for gaming media keys an adjustable backlight etc it also doesn't suffer from roll over limitations like the x6
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4461 Posts
January 31 2011 07:30 GMT
#118
I wonder how well the blackwidow is selling for Razer?
If it sells well hopefully they will bring out some newer mechanical models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Sholoshka
Profile Joined October 2010
United States60 Posts
January 31 2011 19:49 GMT
#119
I hadn't seen any information on the G510 so I figured I'd post my thoughts!

I just bought a new computer and got a Razer Lycosa with it. I returned the Lycosa withing 24 hours. The keys were tough, difficult to press down, and impossible to spam. I went out and bought a Logitech G510 hoping for a better setup.

The keys on the G510 are VERY light. Compared to the Lycosa it was like pressing on little mini cloud-pillows. Since the keys are so light to the touch, if you're used to the slightly heavier feel of mechanical keyboards like the Black Widow then take caution, but for someone like myself who likes / is used to a very light feel, then I would recommend this keyboard 100%.

For Starcraft 2 the macro keys are useless and excessive, but if you are an MMO player as well these can come in handy. Same with the LCD display on the keyboard. These two features run up the price of this keyboard and are not necessary.

Another thing to mention about this keyboard is the Windows key. On the Lycosa, that damn Windows key was so huge that every time I went for control I had a 50/50 chance of accidentally hitting the Windows key, which was bigger than the control key. On the G510 the Windows key is a lot smaller, the control key is bigger, and the spacing is that which you won't mis-click.

The keys on the G510 are a bit smaller than the keys of the Lycosa, so if you're going from a larger keyed keyboard to the G510 it might take some getting used to. Don't get this keyboard if you have big fingers.

Lastly, the backlighting is disappointingly dim. They have addressed this "problem" as saying that they didn't want any light to leak out of the sides of the keys, and since the font face on the keys isn't that large, the lighting isn't too bright. If you're in a dark room, you'll be able to see it fine, but if you have a light on the back light is nearly invisible. The one thing that the Lycosa beats this keyboard on is the backlighting.

Pros: Very Light to the Touch, Windows Key Positioning, Smaller Keys
Cons: Backlighting is Dim, Price (~$100) is a bit much

Other: Macro Keys are a bit excessive for SC2, great for MMO's, LCD display is also a bit excessive

Recommendations: Consider buying one of these if you like a very light touch. Typing is AMAZING on this keyboard and spamming is very smooth (especially for WoW and SC2). If you're used to a heavier touch go with the Black Widow or another beefy mechanical keyboard.

I'll be on the look-out for a keyboard like this with better back-light, less useless features, and a super light touch!

Hope this helps!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 31 2011 20:01 GMT
#120
Most people don't like very bright back-lighting they just want adjustable nice enough to be noticeable at night but not glaring and bright enough for indoors during the day.
The G510 has very similar keys to the G15 which is actually heavier then cherry blues, but frankly i like the sharp ness up the keypress, i don't like cherries they feel like mush to me much prefer alps or bucking. Macro keys and the screen are more for enthusiasts and overclockers. The screen is very nice when playing mmo's or being in vent channels as you can see the name of the person talking without a game overlay. Or you can see what song is playing and change songs with the media keys all good features. The useful ness of a screen is kind of weird it's one of those things you wouldn't notice until you have it for awhile. The G510 also comes with a nice large sturdy wrist rest and the rest of the board is very sturdy.

G510
G110
sidewinder x4
personally i like the x4 the best it's the bare essentials for a media gaming keyboard and it does it very well. I just hope the tech used for the x4 is migrated over to razer and logitech products so all gaming keyboards can have 11 key roll over without a hitch technically more like 17 but theoretically like 23?
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