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So over the years I've gone through a HEAP of gaming gear, just for curiosity's sake, testing friends' gear, winning gear at LAN's/comps etc.
I've played a LOT of games at a high level having won competitions in: Cs 1.6, Quake 3/CPMA/Live, CS:S, CoD:4
As well as playing WC3 and SC2 at a high level, a few MMO's and just general gaming.
I've been to countless lans and seen all kinda of weird/wacky/common/stupid mouse keyboard mousepad sound setups and i figured that if anyone wants some advice about these things I could offer some help. Who am I to offer help? well youve seen my explanation of how i've formed these opinions, if you dont think im qualified...dont read on.
MOUSEPAD:
The first thing that i find REALLY funny is color. EVERY SINGLE person with some weird color scheme cloth mousepad ends up getting it STAINED AND DIRTY. its unavoidable. So my first tip here is that your white fnatic evrglide titan, EG/ SK /SC2 Themed/Wow themed mosuepads are horrible. unless you liek looking at festy lookign stained crap all the time.
As far as the surface of the mousepad: I prefer cloth. the other main options are metal, glass or plastic. Plastic i just dont like the feel of. Metal and Glass however are usually very smooth frictionless surfaces and I would always use these if not for one problem. . . They get COLD. i play a palm grip, my forearm and sometiems fingers touch the pad and its cold! its just offputting IMO and this is the reason I dont like these pads. maybe if you claw grip and have your wrist off the surface these mousepads would be the best. I personally prefer glass over metal, plus glass mousepads look baller. just one note of caution, if you use an optical mouse get a BLACK glass surface as many friends complain optical doesnt track great on the white frosted.
As far as size, imo the bigger the better, but people might have space contraints on their desk. But my advice is to go large  ESPECIALY if youre a FPS player. My recommendation for Mousepad is the simple black (can get it as dirty as you want and wont show it) large Steelseries QCK+, I dont liek the razer mousepads with their weird texture. If you want a glass mousepad (stainless, last forever, but cold.), grab the steelseries large glass one, i think its called the I 2.
MOUSE:
I hear this a lot: "FPS players use high sensitivity because they need to flick fast and RTS players use lower to Mid so they can be precise as they dont have to move as fast."
and this is WRONG.
GOOD fps players use LOW sensitivity. This is because you can get more precision at low sens. now you may ask the obvious question: "what abotu moving the mouse fast to shoot people fast?" . What good fps gamers do is move their whole forearm around to get the big flicks, then plant their wrist down when they need the precision. This way you get the precision of the low sens, whilst still being able to move the mouse fast. The thing you need to note here is this requires a larger mousepad.
Now im sure some hero will be like "BUT MY BEEST FREND PLAYS CEVO P AND SHIAT AND HE PLAY ON LIKE A GAZILLION SNESITIVTY" - Good for your friend, chances are he would be better on a lower sens, but hey some people might be better on high sens. Go look at esports teams like EG and fnatic and sk and mym and such and check out their FPS players configs. i guarantee a VAST majority will play on low sens.
As far as DPI goes the fancy gazillion million trillion dpi advertised on these mice is CRAP. A majority of ood FPS players will use 400 dpi, some up at 800 and pretty much none over 1800. dont fall for the DPI crap.
I WAY prefer the right hand ergonomic mice. I hate the gizmoish, weird, has a gazillion buttons but breaks in ten days (razer) mice.
Newer is not generally better, optical is not worse than laser.
My tips:
1) Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 (1.1 is fine too)
This is CHEAP, STURDY (one of my friends had his so long that he wore through the plastic) right handed, comfortable, good weight mouse. At a Lan this is the most common mouse you'll see from the good fpsers.
2) Logitech MX518
Pretty much same as above. some may find it more comfortable, i personally find the microsoft more comfortable which is why i put it at #1.
3) Razer Deathadder.
Sturdy, higher DPI than the two above (not making it better, but it might have its advantages if you have a huge screen) good drivers, a tad moe expensive.
IMO these 3 are the clear cut kings of gaming mice, and the funny thing is that theyre relatively cheaper too.
If you really need an ambidexterous one go for a Steelseries Xai. steelseries in general make good mice, none of them you can go way wrong with, so if you want ambidexterous, check them out.
STAY AWAY:
Logitech G5/G9 (die so easy, not best tracking)
all other razer mice except diamond back and coperhead. (razer seem to market all this fancy crap: high dpi, on the fly sens swapping, a million buttons, a huge pricetag, breaks so easy, faulty tracking (especially imperator). Ive had myself and friends have so much bad luck with their new mice i will never buy a razer mouse except the deathadder (which for some reason is really good in contrast to their other crap))
Headset:
Im no audiophile, I dont believe you need the most expensive headset. As long as its a good enough headset to tell where people are, the bass isnt too much. the MAIN consideration is COMFORT.
Steelseries IMO have great headsets. (you really want a mic if youre a gamer.)
My two picks for headsets:
1) Steelseries Siberia V2
SOOOOO comfy, retractable headset is really useful, and you look like a BALLER also relatively cheap (can get for 65)
2) Steelseries 7H
Not as comfy as siberia, doesnt look as baller, more expensive but these are only real differences imo. A very close 1st/2nd and I will likely always use a steelseries headset from now on
Notable mentions:
Razer carachias is decent, comfy, a bit pricey for what it is (like a lot of razer stuff)
Logitech and plantronics make some good cheaper alternatives, ive had a few break early and a few last ages so a bit of a crapshoot i think, but if youre in the low end market i would go these cheaper alternatives, they arent THAT much worse.
KEYBOARD:
Im going to be a bit controversial and say that a lot of "gaming" expensive keyboards are the same as cheap 10$ ones, but have a brand name on them and look a bit nicer.
So if you really arent into showing off your gear and dont care about looks just pick up something cheap.
Only consideration is that some cheapy keyboard have a limit on simultaneous presses which poses a problem in some FPS games (IE when youre playing CSS and youre holding crouch, W, A and TAB)
If you want something a bit nicer looking or with a few gizmos (I admit some of them are nice, backlights in particular, i find myself using the USB hubs fairly often) i would say:
If you want a mechanical go a filco majestouch. Dont ever get a glossy razer one, they dont stay glossy long.
Im going to go against what a lot of people say and argue that logitech make some great keyboards.
Ive had my G11 for EVER , I've never actually heard of peoples G11/15/19 etc breaking. The downside is you pay a fair bit for these.
Really its my belief that you cant really go wrong with keyboards, so just buy what tickles your fancy unless you really want mechanical.
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Steelseries headsets are good-ok, but spending a little more on audiotechnicas a700 or hd555 would be smart money spent.
Everything else is spot on. But if you dont like a specific mouse from logi/razer/steelseries, look at the others of course.
I used to use huge mice for a long time, but then I got a cheap kinzu and now I can't imagine going back to playing while holding a brick
edit: also if you have a mouse wire that hangs/snags/move around the slightest, an awesome investment would be a mouse bungee. It's well well worth it
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I was enjoying the post until I came on your statement that the Logitech g5 is bad.
I have owned the Logitech mice for as long as I can remember and I have not had a single complaint. I currently own the G5 and while not as crazy good as MX500.
http://www.kongtechnology.com/2009/02/16/looking-for-a-good-mouse/
I literally cannot stress how great these mice are for FPS and any other application you can put them to.
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As far as DPI goes the fancy gazillion million trillion dpi advertised on these mice is CRAP. A majority of ood FPS players will use 400 dpi, some up at 800 and pretty much none over 1800. dont fall for the DPI crap.
Eh there's absolutely no reason not to play with high dpi. Majority of FPS players play games on the xbox or old skool games like Unreal, quake or CS 1.6, where 400 dpi equals like 3000 anyway. This has been discussed many times, higher dpi is better, but higher dpi does not mean higher sensitivity, this is fact a lot of people tend to forget.
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On November 15 2010 15:03 meredoc wrote:I was enjoying the post until I came on your statement that the Logitech g5 is bad. I have owned the Logitech mice for as long as I can remember and I have not had a single complaint. I currently own the G5 and while not as crazy good as MX500. http://www.kongtechnology.com/2009/02/16/looking-for-a-good-mouse/I literally cannot stress how great these mice are for FPS and any other application you can put them to.
I Had a MIE 3.0, then won a G5, it brokein 4 months , liked the feel,so bought another, lasted 3 months, then back to my MIE while i waited to get a MX518. Ive had two friends break G9's. Maybe this is all coincidental but i really wont vouch for logitech mice beside the MX518 from my experiences
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On November 15 2010 15:12 drlame wrote:Show nested quote +As far as DPI goes the fancy gazillion million trillion dpi advertised on these mice is CRAP. A majority of ood FPS players will use 400 dpi, some up at 800 and pretty much none over 1800. dont fall for the DPI crap. Eh there's absolutely no reason not to play with high dpi. Majority of FPS players play games on the xbox or old skool games like Unreal, quake or CS 1.6, where 400 dpi equals like 3000 anyway. This has been discussed many times, higher dpi is better, but higher dpi does not mean higher sensitivity, this is fact a lot of people tend to forget.
Not really true lol: Heres an excerpt from the steelseries design team:
Let’s say you make a movement of exactly one inch, from left to right, with your mouse. With a 400 CPI sensor your PC would receive exactly 400 counts, and would move 400 pixels (the smallest visible movement) to the right (assuming you haven’t touched any mouse speed settings in windows). Now we do exactly the same movement with a 3.200 CPI sensor. With one inch of movement we move 3.200 pixels on the screen. This has nothing to do with precision – but has something to do with speed of movement. Your cursor (or crosshair) moves faster with 3.200 CPI, but the precision of the sensor is exactly the same as neither sensor skips a pixel. There is only one situation where a higher CPI count makes sense: if the speed on the screen is too slow, you want to have a sensor that is capable of more CPI, as everything that goes beyond it has to be calculated by software and then you LOSE precision.
Check out the entire article:http://www.fragyou.net/?page_id=24
great for dispelling stupid mosue myths
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On November 15 2010 15:03 meredoc wrote:I was enjoying the post until I came on your statement that the Logitech g5 is bad. I have owned the Logitech mice for as long as I can remember and I have not had a single complaint. I currently own the G5 and while not as crazy good as MX500. http://www.kongtechnology.com/2009/02/16/looking-for-a-good-mouse/I literally cannot stress how great these mice are for FPS and any other application you can put them to.
the g5 has been shown to have tracking issues. i play at ~8inches/180, and my g5 skips all the time at that sensitivity- hence me no longer using it in favor of the mx518, ms 3.0 and ikari. the average gamer plays at much higher sensitivity than pros, and as such dont notice these issues, so if youre in that crowd and like the ergonomics of the g5, then you wont have a problem with it.
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Personaly I find that the quality of the mouse does not effect my play, only how comfortable I am with it. As for the headset I recommend the logitech g35 as it is comfortable, has 7.1 and noise canceling, plus some buttons which are not that usefull but kinda cool. Very sturdy too.
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I've been using a Logitech K120 keyboard. Cheap, less than 20 bucks, and still able to find at most OfficeDepots, Targets, Walmarts and BestBuy(maybe).
Feels different than a normal keyboard. The keys are lowered a bit, I'd recommend giving a try since it still uses the traditional Insert-Page key setup with arrow keys and numpad. No fancy multimedia keys or curving of the keyboard. Capslocks even has the gap that the Dynex keyboard(also still common and usable) does not have for some reason.
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you mentioned only mice that are good for fps.
the truth is unless you are using it for its awesome light-weight/feel (like logitech MO) having a mouse like the 3.0 or 1.1 is probably not ideal as you will probably have to sacrifice accuracy for increase sensitivity due to lower dpi.
The precision of tracking in mice is not as important in RTS as is the feel of the mouse and i would say at LEAST 800 dpi if you play over 1024x680 (unless you want RSI)
so in terms of mice for sc2:
you want something that's light, at least 800 dpi and preferrably cheap. this is why you will find lots of players with:
- logitech g1
- razer salmosa
- razer diamondback
- razer abyssus
- mx518 (some people have large hands/like bulky feel)
- LMO (so lightweight and people used to it from SC:BW)
the main thing is there is no 'best' mouse for rts since the majority of it comes down to FEEL (tracking takes back seat)
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took me some time to get my gaming gear whit my income (beeing a student).
but what i ended up whit is.
keyboard. logitech G15.
headset. logitech HS-800 Fatal1ty.
mouse/mouse pad. logitech MX518 whit steelseries large mousepad.
the mouse is great. its not expensive. preforms good and has a great feel to it.
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Lol at sensitivity comment for FPS, obviously you don't know much about it. I played 1.6 WCG and I know high level gamers that have high sensitivity, at the same time I know high level players that have mid-low. It is all about preference and nothing is right/wrong over there.
Logitech G5 is a good mouse, I happen to own one, among the many gaming mice that I own.
Other than that, everything else seems good.
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I went from intelli 3 -> death adder - > MX518
I still like the intelli 3 the best , Death Adder was horrible. MX518 is okayish.
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I want to throw in my hat for good cloth mousepads. The hard mousepads I had, either ate the teflon feet off my mouse, or the mouse managed to polish the surface of the mousepad and made it slick and the mouse started to stick when not in motion. I had to use a silicon spray can and apply it to the mousepad every few hours, to make it feel "new".
The Allsop Raindrop was the first cloth pad I was satisfied with. The mouse doesn't stick when starting to move. The friction in every direction is the same (unlike going over the carpet with the vacuum cleaner, where there's that one direction, where you have to push harder). The mouse pad can be washed with soap and water and the cloth doesn't come off the base material at the borders and corners.
The Steelseries QCK cloth and rubber base materials look suspiciously similar to the Allsop Raindrop mousepads, so I think Allsop is the manufacturer. It may be possible to save a few dollars because of that.
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i payd 20 euro's for the qck.
witch is a bit more cheap then the allsop raindrop. then again i havent used a raindrop before so cant tell if the quelty is the same.
and i must agree whit you about the hard mousepads.
cloth is a lot better.
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On November 16 2010 19:10 vohne wrote:
Lol at sensitivity comment for FPS, obviously you don't know much about it. I played 1.6 WCG and I know high level gamers that have high sensitivity, at the same time I know high level players that have mid-low. It is all about preference and nothing is right/wrong over there.
Logitech G5 is a good mouse, I happen to own one, among the many gaming mice that I own.
Other than that, everything else seems good.
your opinion.
fact is the huge majority of the best players use low. Not really debatable. As i said, some people might use high, but vast majority, of atleast the really good players, use low fps.
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I have a razer salmosa, i love the feel of it but it squeaks  stay away.
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I use a Zower G-TF mouse pad and i love this thing.
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now comming to the size of the mousepad.
i got the QCK in the biggest size.
now its good during fps. but i knowtest that i dont use that mutch space while playing sc2.
now whould you agree or are ther ppl who do use alot of space while playing starcraft (2).
i just like the large one becouse the chance that it moves is even smaler then the normal size.
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Hyrule19144 Posts
I'd like to add the Logitech Optical Mini to the suggested mouse list, and the Zowie Hammer to the headset list. Both are simple, high quality, and feel great.
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I've had a bunch of IE 3.0's, back in the days when it was actually a good mouse. Crap always broke within 6 months for me. Always the same, mousebutton 1 started to get glitchy. I don't get why people love this mouse so much. Bought a Razer Diamondback 3G 3-4 or so years ago (had a normal Diamondback inbetween this and 3.0), and this one hasn't broken down yet. I even bought a spare a year or so back, thinking that it should break soon. But it's as sturdy as ever, the soft rubber covering of the mouse buttons are worn down, and have been for quite a while. Love this mouse, never knew what the Razer hate was about.
Cloth pads get so disgusting, doesn't matter if it's black or colored. The sweat that soaks into the pad makes it feel so yucky. I prefer plastic over metal or glass though, and I picked up the Zowie Swift a while back. It's awesome.
About headsets, I really prefer using headphones and a desktop microphone instead, mostly because you get way better headphones for the same price of a headset. And you can just pick up a random microphone for 5$ or so that is just as good or better as the crap you get on a headset. I have broken countless headphones over the years, they ALWAYS break above the right headphone, I use tape or glue for a while to hold it together but after a while it just falls apart completely. I guess it has to do with how I put on/off them. I came up with the idea of a metal frame the last time I had to get new ones, and found the Grado SR-60's. Grado has a bunch of headphones with metal frame, I think SR-60 is amongst the cheapest model. I really recommend these, they have a really good sound and feel really sturdy.
As for keyboards, I dunno. I use a cheap saitek keyboard, it's really bad.
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Basically everything said in OP is true, I have a death adder and love it, a basically dell keyboard (will go mechanical when i have $ though) my headset is steel series siberia v2 and mouse is plastic (i love the feel, i have a metal too.. there is not that much difference to be honest)
The only thing I find that matters a lot is you're mouse, do some research and get something you feel is comfy.
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On November 16 2010 21:59 kayl wrote:
Cloth pads get so disgusting, doesn't matter if it's black or colored. The sweat that soaks into the pad makes it feel so yucky. I prefer plastic over metal or glass though, and I picked up the Zowie Swift a while back. It's awesome.
That may be true, but the Steelseries and Allsop cloth pads I have, both don't get destroyed from being washed with water and detergent. I regularly wash my favorite one and use my second one, while the other is drying for a day or two.
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Telling an RTS forum to get a 3.0 is just plain silly. Know your audience if you're trying to give -accurate advice. As much as I love the 3.0 (used it for about 7-8 years during my competitive FPS days), it's NOT suited to RTS, and neither is the 1.1. Low DPI is a problem in SC2 because we're no longer using 640x480 and with the way LCDs are affected by non-native resolutions, you won't be.
400/450 DPI is just not fast enough with horizontal resolutions upwards of 1280, and using Windows/in-game (the same in SC2) to increase your sensitivity results in a huge loss of precision (look up In game sensitivity on TL for my thread on the matter).
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Good man
Mousepad: QcK Heavy
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Mouse: Razer Deathadder (Previous G5 and previous mx518 owner, 6 of these puppies between the two all broke)
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Headset: Steelseries 5hv2
Not the 7h, But they were new at the time
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OP, You're a good man. I could not agree with you more, on anything you said. Intellimouse is baller status, But stay away from the logitech mice, I have gone through more logitech products then the mcdonalds drive through. They are not meant for power users (Although logitech does have a very good return service, you basically can ship them half a mouse and they give you a bran new one). As for headsets, I feel steelseries makes the best price/performance set you can buy. The mic sounds amazing over ventrilo or high quality voice op's (Skype). Listen to this man people, He knows whats up. Never buy a non mechanical keyboard from a gaming company. The Steelseries 7g is alright, But please NEVER buy a razer xxxxx other than the Black widow (Which I hear is getting amazing reviews)
OP, i suggest adding the Black widow keyboard for razer as one of the premier Mechanical keyboards.
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Hmmm, I agree with some things you're saying... What leagues were you in for cs and css? And notable teams? Maybe you should add that into the thread so peple are less scepticle.
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On November 16 2010 22:28 stafu wrote:
Telling an RTS forum to get a 3.0 is just plain silly. Know your audience if you're trying to give -accurate advice. As much as I love the 3.0 (used it for about 7-8 years during my competitive FPS days), it's NOT suited to RTS, and neither is the 1.1. Low DPI is a problem in SC2 because we're no longer using 640x480 and with the way LCDs are affected by non-native resolutions, you won't be.
400/450 DPI is just not fast enough with horizontal resolutions upwards of 1280, and using Windows/in-game (the same in SC2) to increase your sensitivity results in a huge loss of precision (look up In game sensitivity on TL for my thread on the matter).
400DPI works fine for me with my 1650 horizontal and 51% in game sensitivity. I'm not pro and pretty bad, but it's not my mouse/mouse settings holding me back.
Mainly a preference really, since my work setup is a 400 dpi mouse with a horizontal of 2048 when I get home it isn't a problem.
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Why would anyone use an IE 3.0 when the 1.1 is so freaking good? Also god I've always wanted an Intellimouse SE/SS, why didn't Steelseries or whoever just try and buy the license to make intellimice forever.
![[image loading]](http://i37.tinypic.com/2vj37mo.jpg)
That said I'm liking my kinzu even if it was a bit pricey for what it is, much prefer it to my logitech fatmouse.
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On November 17 2010 00:25 bmml wrote:
Why would anyone use an IE 3.0 when the 1.1 is so freaking good?
If you have large hands the 3.0 is a much more comfortable.
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Registered just to comment.
For one, high level FPS players typically have their DPI turned up high while having their sensitivity low. So yes, DPI does matter. Its alot more precise then adjusting your sens in game. As far as your comment on the G5/G9.. after 12 years of playing quake (quakeworld to quakelive) I can tell you the G9 is BY FAR the best mouse ive ever used. The few times I've tried Razers, they've either been DOA or broke within a short timeframe. Its precise, comfortable, and is just plain reliable. But everyone has their own preference.
As for your comment on mousepads.. to make a decision based upon it getting dirty and looking "gross".. thats just dumb. If your a low sens player, you'll want a large mousepad.. something along the terms of a Razer Goliathus (which is what I use) or the all reliable Allsop Teardrop XL.
Headset.. I've used sennheisers for 10 years, and have had no complaints or problems. (HD 595 currently)
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On November 17 2010 07:26 Souljah wrote:
Registered just to comment.
For one, high level FPS players typically have their DPI turned up high while having their sensitivity low. So yes, DPI does matter. Its alot more precise then adjusting your sens in game. As far as your comment on the G5/G9.. after 12 years of playing quake (quakeworld to quakelive) I can tell you the G9 is BY FAR the best mouse ive ever used. The few times I've tried Razers, they've either been DOA or broke within a short timeframe. Its precise, comfortable, and is just plain reliable. But everyone has their own preference.
As for your comment on mousepads.. to make a decision based upon it getting dirty and looking "gross".. thats just dumb. If your a low sens player, you'll want a large mousepad.. something along the terms of a Razer Goliathus (which is what I use) or the all reliable Allsop Teardrop XL.
Headset.. I've used sennheisers for 10 years, and have had no complaints or problems. (HD 595 currently)
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I did say to use a large mousepad
and getting a white mousepad dirty is somethign which no one seems to think about, its a valid comment. Who wants to sit at their pc for hours with their arm on some weird stained mousepad?
Of course people are goign to be saying "ive used this and it hasnt broken so its the best" its their opinion.
As far as MIE 1.1 i liek that mouse too, just didnt add it becasue its essentialy the same thing as the 3.0 and the 3.0 is more common
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Why is this in tech support? Blog please.
What if it's dirty... you don't actually spend time looking at your mousepad do you? You realize all the dirt is being absorbed inside the cloth pad. Not exactly better than the large plastic ones (talking about the white razer), which you can clean relatively easily.
The IE3.0 might be sturdy, but the one I tried out had the problem of feeling too plasticky. I couldn't press down hard or fast in fear of breaking. Granted, it may have been used beforehand. I have no comments on most other mice. The G7 is heavy, and wide. I didn't adjust to it quickly.
I don't like anyone who suggests headsets over headphones and a microphone, unless it's for pure skype related use. It is simply not even a competition.
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I've owned a few gaming mice. I've went from G5(2years) -> Deathadder(1.5years) -> IME 3.0(5 months) -> g9x(4 months and counting). For FPS games, the Deathadder and the IME felt the most accurate and felt the best. IME a bit better than the deathader since it was lighter. I switched to a g9x and snagged one for $40, its a bit heavy even without the weight cartridge, but I find it better for SC2 than the deathadder due to the smaller size. The g5 was good when I had it but after using the deathadder and ime3, it felt like a crap mouse with a crap sensor. Gave that to my dad. I wanted to use the IME3.0 for SC2, but 400dpi couldn't work with 1920x1080 res.
For FPS, i used a Puretrak Talent. Huge mousepad, mice would glide like no other. For SC2 and my g9x, I use this weird blend of plastic mousepad I got from an airline. Its WAYYY too smooth for fps but is pretty good for sc2. My dream mouse would probably be a mouse shaped either like the 1.1 without the right side button or a 3.0 with fixed side buttons and scroll wheel with around 2000 dpi. It would have to have a sensor with the accuracy and tracking ability of the IME3.0.
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I would have to agree with meredoc, I thought this post had something to it until I read about his bashing G5's... I Currently use a G5 and have for well over a year now, its great in RTS and FPS. It hasn't broken and the tracking is JUST FINE...
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I really agree with your notion of using what works for games like Starcraft 2.
I bought a Logitech S510 wireless keyboard + mouse set for the media buttons, wireless usage (I have a HTPC setup), and general slimness of it. I really don't know what dpi the mouse has, but it's probably not that high. But, it's comfortable in hand, and I perform just find with it in diamond league.
I will also agree that the right keyboard is one that feels comfortable to you. The one point of consideration is the key pitch. My keyboard has a pretty high key pitch, so it takes more effort to press the same key in rapid succession. This is actually slightly annoying when I'm trying to move to different parts of the map with hotkeys.
Starcraft 2 should really be praised for its scalability. I used to ladder like crazy on my VAIO SR with nothing more added on than a USB wireless mouse. Performance in the game depends more on the player and his/her strategic or mechanical skill, rather than what brand of gear is in possession.
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nvm, opened a new thread instead...
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Honestly I love my LMO SOOOO much that I'm willing to just turn up the sensitivity in SC2 because I hate my Diamondback 3G so much. I dislike the shape of every single mouse that isn't the LMO.
My question to you is, can I take an abbyssus and put the sensor into a LMO????????
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On November 17 2010 07:26 Souljah wrote:
Registered just to comment.
For one, high level FPS players typically have their DPI turned up high while having their sensitivity low. So yes, DPI does matter. Its alot more precise then adjusting your sens in game. As far as your comment on the G5/G9.. after 12 years of playing quake (quakeworld to quakelive) I can tell you the G9 is BY FAR the best mouse ive ever used. The few times I've tried Razers, they've either been DOA or broke within a short timeframe. Its precise, comfortable, and is just plain reliable. But everyone has their own preference.
As for your comment on mousepads.. to make a decision based upon it getting dirty and looking "gross".. thats just dumb. If your a low sens player, you'll want a large mousepad.. something along the terms of a Razer Goliathus (which is what I use) or the all reliable Allsop Teardrop XL.
Headset.. I've used sennheisers for 10 years, and have had no complaints or problems. (HD 595 currently)
Incorrect:
Cypher - 450 dpi
rapha - 400 dpi
cooller - 400 dpi
strenx - 800 dpi
av3k - 800 dpi
There is no evidence to suggest that dpi is more precise and you are simply making that up. Also g9 is definitely NOT the best mouse for fps because the sensor is shit.
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I've been using the Sennheiser pc350 for awhile now and honestly it's the best headset I've owned. Comfortable light, and damn sturdy even though when I first opened it up I was worried it'd break on me. The one problem is the vol/mic control' is pretty much left dangling unless you want to slide it on your shirt collar(cord gets in a strange place) other then that pretty good.
The Death adder is a great mouse, I've used it for FPS,RTS, and MMO and I've never been more happy. If there is a problem with it it's the rubber wheel is a magnet at attracting oil and bits from your hand. Clean often if you have an issue of that kind.
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I agree with most things. Cloth rocks for a mousepad, it feels so comfy.
I disagree with the headset choices though, I would never get a 'gaming' headset.
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On December 30 2010 08:06 dthree wrote:
Incorrect:
Cypher - 450 dpi
rapha - 400 dpi
cooller - 400 dpi
strenx - 800 dpi
av3k - 800 dpi
There is no evidence to suggest that dpi is more precise and you are simply making that up. Also g9 is definitely NOT the best mouse for fps because the sensor is shit.
Bingo, this guy gets it.
A lot of people have been brainwashed about dpi.
As posted before:
There is only one situation where a higher CPI count makes sense: if the speed on the screen is too slow, you want to have a sensor that is capable of more CPI, as everything that goes beyond it has to be calculated by software and then you LOSE precision.
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yeah i use sort of... variations of those things. i use the QCK mass instead of the +, salmosa instead of deathadder, and Siberia V1 instead of V2. disagree on the keyboard though. you don't need to hunt down and drop money on a filco. das keyboards, razer blackwidow (gloss only on the body, not the keys), rosewill (completely identical to the filco, just rebranded), and steelseries line are all legit keyboards.
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I don't know about that, i've been playing FPS before RTS and found that 400dpi mouse were much worse than 800dpi (switched wmo 1.1 for mx510).
Started to play SC:BW with mx510 but my hands got so tired fast, mx510 is quite on the heavy side and spamming and moving is so hard
so back to wmo 1.1, love it.
Agree on cloth surfaces and even on headsets.
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