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On May 11 2011 03:33 amd098 wrote:
you could also try a g9x without either grip, my friend takes the grip off my mouse whenever she would use it, and she'd take the weights out as well
I love the G9x with the precision grip (the smaller textured one). I believe it is 108mm in length total. Without either grip its the same size (approx) as my logitech mini.
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On May 11 2011 03:19 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 03:16 loadme wrote:
thanks for so many interesting statements so far
have to correct me here. I'm a fingertip grip user. I got this whole grip thing a bit wrong before.
I didnt tested the mx518, g9x or intelli mouse yet. I may check them out before ordering.
Some may be interessted in a short Sidewinder X8 Review from a "smaller hand point of view":
Right now I use a sidewinder x8 (over 1 year now)
Some may wonder: "wtf why is he switching from a 1ms wireless 70$ mouse back to a half priced and much older model."
Well in my case I really love all features of the x8. But since I started pushing myself in scII a bit more, I figured, that I get my gear in the way. The x8 is a bit too huge and heavy for me, denying many fast and precise movements. I love huge mice. its great for all-day computer works. you can be really lazy with your hand and lying it down on your mouse.
But when I hit an average of 120 apm, I really feel that the heavy weight leads to LONG ways of speeding down the X8, so I often get trouble with overrunning my target location and need to move back afterwards.. As well as the big size lets me constantly hit my palm, what makes the cursor shaking too..
After reading a lot, as I already mentioned, it come down to the conclusion, that I should go for Abyssus or Kinzu.
Any more comments on those both mice are still very appreciated. :-)
About that - I play around 260 and have no slowdown issues with the Abyssus o.o
naa, you misunderstood, I have those issues when using the heavy and much bigger sidewinder x8. and I need to decide, what to get instead of.. 
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Both of them (G1 and Kinzu) have a very nice shape for us small-handed users.
I have a Kinzu right now.Bought it because the shape of the Abyssus is rather edgy and it's wider than the kinzu, I did not like that.
I do not experience any problems with control in SC2 even though you can really notice the hard prediction on the mouse(feels weird), the acceleration is also hardly noticeable. But it only works on the polling rate of 125 hz for me, I on 500 and 1000 hz it double-clicks very often.
However, If I would chose between these 2 now, I would go for the G1 because it has no issues with prediction and acceleration and also the mouse buttons are more stable, kinda limited on the sides. 800-1000 dpi is really enough for SC2.
btw, DirtYLOu, where did you find the G1 in and around Poland? I live in Germany and could not find it anywhere aside from Korea through ebay...
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I had deathadder. Now on mx518. Love both.
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just ordered
abyssus + goliathus speed (standard) + 6gv2
hope this serves well.
my old stuff (g15 + sidewinder x8 + steelseries qck+) now becomes 2nd gear, but cost more.. ironic -.-
thx for your advices TL
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Middle Finger : 7cm
Hand Length : 16cm
"Claw Grip"
I've used many different types of mice, (I actually bought them and used them, so if you have small hands and claw grip like me just hear my experience about them)
Razer Lachesis : Just forget it too big if you have small hands, after 20 minutes of 150 apm your hand starts to hurt.
Razer Imperator : Seems to be a fine FPS mouse for small hands since low sens is ok with those games, it's definitely NOT a StarCraft mouse, forget it.
Razer Deathadder : Again, I really don't understand ppl suggesting this mouse for small handed users, its really bad, you accidently click side buttons and stuff when your hand is small and it starts to hurt your hand after 20 minutes of 150 apm.
****Razer Orochi : Yes, this may be the smallest mouse with amazing sensor and dpi options but it's weight really feels alien to my gameplay. The reason is it has a big empty space in it if you don't have batteries inside the mouse. And when you have batteries in it, it becomes absurdly heavy. I mean, may be not heavy as a dumble but the problem about this mouse is it's weight is not homogenically distributed to other parts of the mouse, it feels alien. To this mouse purpose, the alien weight really shows that it is a laptop mouse 
*****Razer Abyssus : The mouse I am using right now, definitely amazing for small hands, it's dpi settings are on the mouse so you don't need to install your software to other computers if you are a LAN player or you play at your friend's house a lot. You just carry this mouse and change the dpi. I have a specific dpi and SC2 sensitivity for this. It's very LAN (different computers) friendly.
***Logitech M100 : May be, the best size specs for small hands but it's dpi is relatively low. If there was a mouse with same size specs and improved sensor and good glides for a pro-mouse pad, I would definitely own this mouse to the end of time.
I hope this guide will be useful for hobbit hands and claw grips...
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I think I have fairly small hands, and I use the Logitech G500 (previously MX518). Works good with any grip. Though I think I switch grips sometimes without thinking about it.
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You should try Roccat Pyra. I got small hands and i find this mouse suiting me very good. I have tried lots of mices and i really mean alot. I think i got 5-6 on the shelf which i dont use mouses like xai, kinzu and ikari.
Why roccat pyra? its total length is 9.5cm and is small. There is back 5 buttons and is ambidextrous. Very fitting for claw grip.
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I wouldn't suggest a Deathadder,
My hand is 20cm
Middle finger to palm is 11cm
My Deathadder fits me comfortably, but my girlfriend can't use it, She uses a steelseries xai.
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I'm using the Razer Orochi, and I think this is probably one of the best mice I've ever used considering my tiny fingers. I use the palm grip and my fingers don't even go beyond the end, even though the mouse itself is roughly equal or slightly smaller than my palm. The shape of all the Razer mice are actually perfect for a palm grip due to the inward curvature.
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How about the Razer Salmosa, Nada used it before, it's pretty small.
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I find that smaller mouse where the hand is closer to it's natural open position is better for more long-term playing. There's less pain and I can recover faster after long plays with simple opening and closing hand exercise.
So I use a Logitech wireless optical laptop mouse ("performance laser" --- don't have the name on it but it has lots of programmable buttons including 2 zoom, 2 thumb, 1 top, 1 scrolling tilt) instead of a Microsoft wired optical intellimouse, which is larger and my fingers is relatively more straight than with the smaller mouse.
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Any input on the new zowie mico guys?
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