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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 22:55:48
December 04 2011 22:45 GMT
#15681
If the game runs fine during normal gameplay, then who cares what temperature your card runs in Furmark?

Furmark is fucking pointless. nVidia and AMD have both implemented driver detection to throttle themselves when Furmark is operating. That's why you can get stable overclocks in Furmark and crash one minute in some video game.

You overclock to get better performance in video games. So you use video games as the stability and thermal benchmark.

Edit:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/17

GTX580 system under Furmark: 360W
GTX580 system under Furmark clone (pretty sure Ryan just renamed the .exe file): 452W
GTX580 running Crysis (a game that also taxes the CPU): 389W

If you want a benchmark program and still don't want to use games, for whatever reason, use the Unigine Heaven benchamrk.
olabaz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States298 Posts
December 04 2011 22:56 GMT
#15682
On December 03 2011 23:40 olabaz wrote:
So I started building the computer that you guys recommended and came across an issue. When I press the power button on the case the computer turns on for about 2 seconds (the fans start to spin) and then it turns off. I removed everything and found that if I connect the motherboard and power supply, I can get the case fan to spin indefinitely. However, once I drop in the CPU it does the turn on for 2 seconds thing. I noticed on the mobo that there is 1 pin that is broken/bent. Could this be the cause of my problem?

+ Show Spoiler [My Build] +
Final Build:
CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Biostar H61MGC Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ($130 @ncix)
Video Card: GT 240 $60 (@ newegg)
Case: Bitfenix Merc Alpha $40 (@ ncix)
Power SupplyPower Supply: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W ($37.00 @ newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung DVDRW 22X SATA Black OEM ($17 @ ncix)


Can anyone confirm if 1 pin will not allow my computer to turn on?
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 04 2011 23:08 GMT
#15683
On December 05 2011 07:45 Womwomwom wrote:
If the game runs fine during normal gameplay, then who cares what temperature your card runs in Furmark?

Furmark is fucking pointless. nVidia and AMD have both implemented driver detection to throttle themselves when Furmark is operating. That's why you can get stable overclocks in Furmark and crash one minute in some video game.

You overclock to get better performance in video games. So you use video games as the stability and thermal benchmark.

Edit:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/17

GTX580 system under Furmark: 360W
GTX580 system under Furmark clone (pretty sure Ryan just renamed the .exe file): 452W
GTX580 running Crysis (a game that also taxes the CPU): 389W

If you want a benchmark program and still don't want to use games, for whatever reason, use the Unigine Heaven benchamrk.


Well I only OC'd the 460's to 850mhz and the system is crashing. At the moment, my only stable results are at clock speeds.
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
December 04 2011 23:24 GMT
#15684
On December 05 2011 07:56 olabaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 23:40 olabaz wrote:
So I started building the computer that you guys recommended and came across an issue. When I press the power button on the case the computer turns on for about 2 seconds (the fans start to spin) and then it turns off. I removed everything and found that if I connect the motherboard and power supply, I can get the case fan to spin indefinitely. However, once I drop in the CPU it does the turn on for 2 seconds thing. I noticed on the mobo that there is 1 pin that is broken/bent. Could this be the cause of my problem?

+ Show Spoiler [My Build] +
Final Build:
CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Biostar H61MGC Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ($130 @ncix)
Video Card: GT 240 $60 (@ newegg)
Case: Bitfenix Merc Alpha $40 (@ ncix)
Power SupplyPower Supply: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W ($37.00 @ newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung DVDRW 22X SATA Black OEM ($17 @ ncix)


Can anyone confirm if 1 pin will not allow my computer to turn on?


That probably depends on the pin
Normally a bent pin doesn't matter - you can just bent it back..
Regarding your problem:
Is your CPU cooler plugged in properly and does it turn when you press the power button?
Did you connect both (2x4pin (or 1x4pin) and the bigger one (24 or smth)) the cables from your PSU to you mainboard?
Also most new mainboards have status indicator LEDs which should tell you where the problem is.
olabaz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States298 Posts
December 04 2011 23:28 GMT
#15685
Yes for a few seconds the CPU fan spins before turning off. Yes, everything spins for a few seconds when it turns on. Like I said before, the case fan spins when the CPU is not on the motherboard but once it IS plugged in, it only turns on for a second.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
December 04 2011 23:54 GMT
#15686
could you give advice on what and where to purchase for a linux/ubuntu media server?
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
December 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#15687
On December 05 2011 08:54 xeo1 wrote:
could you give advice on what and where to purchase for a linux/ubuntu media server?


What does it have to do? Does it just sit in the network and provide the files to the clients or does it also have to render the media and stream the output? The former needs very little to operate (I use a first-generation Intel Atom, which is slower than modern smartphones), the latter needs more power.

The new AMD Fusion platform is pretty good here as it includes a good integrated graphics chip to offload video-rendering and it doesn't use a lot of power. However, I don't know Ubuntu already supports this platform completely. It probably does, but you may need to do some manual tweaking. Some research needed here.
Such flammable little insects!
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
December 05 2011 00:46 GMT
#15688
On December 05 2011 08:28 olabaz wrote:
Yes for a few seconds the CPU fan spins before turning off. Yes, everything spins for a few seconds when it turns on. Like I said before, the case fan spins when the CPU is not on the motherboard but once it IS plugged in, it only turns on for a second.


Are you trying it with the CPU, and a stick of RAM with the monitor hooked up to the onboard? If it's still not booting, RMA the mobo because it has a bent pin. Why are you so set on getting this to work when you have a piece that is already defective? It sucks, but waiting for the RMA is probably the best choice, especially because it seems brand new, you can go through the retailer.
Tuskon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States86 Posts
December 05 2011 01:15 GMT
#15689
So i got all my computer parts and put it all together a few nights ago (thanks to everyone who helped)

Now I seem to be having a heat issue. I ran Skyrim on high for about an hour and i got some crazy temperatures

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


All the parts are brand new, i'm not overclocking and the fans seem to be working properly. Room temp is ~18c/65f.
I have plenty of ventilation in my room and the computer is sitting on my desk with nothing else near it.
I'm not sure what else to do besides possibly get an aftermarket cooler for my CPU.
Any suggestion on how to help fix it?
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 01:27:06
December 05 2011 01:24 GMT
#15690
You probably didnt apply the paste properly.
Edit: Now that I think about it, if you are on stock cooler, then u didnt apply the paste yourself, mmmm
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 05 2011 02:37 GMT
#15691
The cooler probably wasnt installed right. Make sure the push pins went all the way down. if it didnt make a terrible KARUNCH sound then it wasnt done right.
twitch.tv/medrea
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 02:44:51
December 05 2011 02:44 GMT
#15692
nvm
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Tuskon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States86 Posts
December 05 2011 03:52 GMT
#15693
On December 05 2011 11:37 Medrea wrote:
The cooler probably wasnt installed right. Make sure the push pins went all the way down. if it didnt make a terrible KARUNCH sound then it wasnt done right.


Double checked this after you mentioned it, just to see. Turned out you were right, only 2/4 of the things on the fan were secured.
Thx for the help.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
December 05 2011 05:36 GMT
#15694
On December 05 2011 09:03 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:54 xeo1 wrote:
could you give advice on what and where to purchase for a linux/ubuntu media server?


What does it have to do? Does it just sit in the network and provide the files to the clients or does it also have to render the media and stream the output? The former needs very little to operate (I use a first-generation Intel Atom, which is slower than modern smartphones), the latter needs more power.

The new AMD Fusion platform is pretty good here as it includes a good integrated graphics chip to offload video-rendering and it doesn't use a lot of power. However, I don't know Ubuntu already supports this platform completely. It probably does, but you may need to do some manual tweaking. Some research needed here.


it is basically for a youtube-like website with constant uploading
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
December 05 2011 07:01 GMT
#15695
Hey guyses, due to massively high HDD prices I may have to salvage my existing pre-built dell that is ages hold. I also don't want it alive after I get a new PC because it runs the risk of imploding at any moment so it would become obsolete next to something modern. I wanna know what of this over-used and on-too-often PC I can/should salvage! As in re-use till prices stabilize, sell, or.. soemthing?

So far I discovered my HDD serial number is wdc wd3200aaks-75sba0 which is apparently a a 300 or 320 gb drive although my pc says 288. It's also at least 5 years old and maybe abused, although I did not tinker with anything. I mean, is there anything else? I seem to have a philips dvd-rom drom 6316 tsstcorp dvd-RW TS-h653a as optical drives (one burns/reads the other reads.) Do computers not use two anymore or something and are these babies useful or sellable in any way? Other than that, I have a somewhat decent dell E288WFP monitor that I expect to be using on a new rig as well.

thanks!
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 05 2011 07:30 GMT
#15696
HDD manufacturers advertises capacity in base ten so 1 GB equates to 1 billion bytes except 1GB is actually 2^30.

Computers don't need a single optical drive if you don't want one.

In a prebuilt Dell, there's not much to salvage besides the HDD and optical drive.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
December 05 2011 08:34 GMT
#15697
Would I be risking anything by putting my old HDD in a modern rig till everything dies down in thailand? Or should I just go ahead and spend the 100-150 dollars on a hard drive at the same time as my new rig
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 08:43:15
December 05 2011 08:42 GMT
#15698
There is no risk in doing so. Millions of people keep their HDDs forever until they die. The worse thing that can happen is that you are working on something critical and it suddenly dies. If you need additional space than get a new HDD. If you don't than you can get a SSD for your primary drive and use the older HDD as your secondary (storage) drive or you can just use the HDD for now until HDD prices return back to normal (which won't be for a while) or for another SSD deal.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 05 2011 09:06 GMT
#15699
The only downside with sticking with the hdd you got is that you might have to transfer your data or do a clean install once you do buy a better hdd or ssd as you usually want your os and programs on your best better drive.

If you don't need the space I'd stick with the one you got until the prices are alright again or just buy a ssd if you have the money.
Kleataurus
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
December 05 2011 11:11 GMT
#15700
Will this power supply be enough to run this build
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_972&products_id=15955
Build:
Motherboard- GA-X79-UD5 Motherboard $369
Cpu- Intel Core i7 3930K $ 659
Cooler- Hydro Series H100 CPU Cooler $ 165
Graphics Card- Gigabyte Radeon HD6950 1GB Overclocked $279
Ram- Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M4X1600C9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 $119
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS $119
Optical- Pioneer BDR-206 Blu-Ray Disc Writer OEM $115
Case- Corsair Obsidian Series 650D $215

Is every thing compatible and are there any areas where the cost could be reduced?
(i am buying from http://www.pccasegear.com/ )
thanks in advance
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