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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
December 05 2011 11:16 GMT
#15701
On December 05 2011 20:11 liamdogger wrote:
Will this power supply be enough to run this build
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_972&products_id=15955
Build:
Motherboard- GA-X79-UD5 Motherboard $369
Cpu- Intel Core i7 3930K $ 659
Cooler- Hydro Series H100 CPU Cooler $ 165
Graphics Card- Gigabyte Radeon HD6950 1GB Overclocked $279
Ram- Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M4X1600C9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 $119
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS $119
Optical- Pioneer BDR-206 Blu-Ray Disc Writer OEM $115
Case- Corsair Obsidian Series 650D $215

Is every thing compatible and are there any areas where the cost could be reduced?
(i am buying from http://www.pccasegear.com/ )
thanks in advance


Easily. You could drop down to a lower power model as well. As for cost-reduction, that depends 100% on what you want to do with the machine. The Sandy Bridge E CPU is massive overkill for gaming (and alot of other things) for example. You could knock $400 off the price by getting something like a i5 2500k (and a much cheaper motherboard as well) and use that to buy a second videocard for crossfire, an SSD for fast boot / program startups, a large high-quality monitor, etc... Or just keep it in your pocket.
Such flammable little insects!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 05 2011 11:29 GMT
#15702
On December 05 2011 20:11 liamdogger wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Will this power supply be enough to run this build
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_972&products_id=15955
Build:
Motherboard- GA-X79-UD5 Motherboard $369
Cpu- Intel Core i7 3930K $ 659
Cooler- Hydro Series H100 CPU Cooler $ 165
Graphics Card- Gigabyte Radeon HD6950 1GB Overclocked $279
Ram- Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M4X1600C9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 $119
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS $119
Optical- Pioneer BDR-206 Blu-Ray Disc Writer OEM $115
Case- Corsair Obsidian Series 650D $215

Is every thing compatible and are there any areas where the cost could be reduced?
(i am buying from http://www.pccasegear.com/ )
thanks in advance


Yes, the X850 will be more than enough for the configuration.

How do we know if there are any areas where cost can be reduced if you don't say what the configuration will be used for?

The Gigabyte X79 UD5 is an eATX motherboard. The Corsair Obsidan 650D does not officially fit eATX though Corsair has mentioned that it does fit certain eATX motherboards. You need to double check whether the board fits inside the case or take a gamble or select a different case/motherboard.

H100 is shit at that price point. If you want liquid cooling, do a real custom loop. Otherwise just get a Noctua NH-D14, Thermalright Silver Arrow, or some other flagship heatsink - all of which will be noticeably less expensive and perform similar to that of the H100.

Why would you purchase a Radeon HD6950 1GB for the X79 platform? Unless of course you're waiting to purchase the Radeon HD7970 than it would make some sense. If not... than you probably should look into getting a higher-end card such as the Radeon HD6970 or GTX 570 / GTX 560 Ti 448 for the multi-GPU configuration.

I don't understand why you aren't purchasing an SSD?
Kleataurus
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:54:43
December 05 2011 11:53 GMT
#15703
the Gigabyte X79 UD5 is an eATX motherboard. The Corsair Obsidan 650D does not officially fit eATX though Corsair has mentioned that it does fit certain eATX motherboards. You need to double check whether the board fits inside the case or take a gamble or select a different case/motherboard.
i thought that it was the ud7 that was the eATX board.
hmmmm the computer will be used for gaming could you suggest a good build for me SkyR.

edit : I may purchase an ssd i am just not sure about what to get
Meow?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 05 2011 12:14 GMT
#15704
UD7 is XL-ATX which is larger than eATX.

Crucial M4 is the most commonly suggested one as it's priced competitively, it's fast, and has a better track record in reliability than Sandforce SSDs (mainly OCZ SSDs but most other manufacturers also use Sandforce except for Samsung and Intel - which are also good alternatives to the Crucial M4).

For gaming, you basically want the following:

core i5 2500k

Some heatsink such as the Hyper 212+ or you can keep a flagship heatsink such as the Noctua NH-D14 since these things won't be replaced from configuration to configuration. This is basically a lifetime investment until you get into liquid or something drastically changes in the industry.

Some Z68 board such as the Asrock Z68 Extreme3 (good option for novices who want to do a multi-GPU configuration), don't waste money on a higher-end board unless you know what you want.

2x4gb of 1333MHz, you can get 1600MHz if you want or if the price is negligible. The difference in higher frequency and tighter timings in gaming is negligible (non existent). You'll never reach anywhere close to 16GB in gaming unless you are multi-boxing or the game is just terribly coded.

Case, pick whatever floats your boat. You can keep the 650D if you want. Another one of those components that you will keep with you through multiple configurations unless your taste/wants changes.

Games won't come on blu-ray anytime soon but if you need a blu-ray reader for blu-ray movies than okay.

The 6950 is fine

You'll want a ~650w power supply for a multi-GPU configuration. Corsair TX650V2, Antec Earthwatts 650, Antec Neo Eco 620, XFX Core Edition 650, Antec High Current Gamer 620 and Seasonic S12II 620 come to mind.
Kleataurus
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
December 05 2011 12:23 GMT
#15705
+ Show Spoiler +
UD7 is XL-ATX which is larger than eATX.

Crucial M4 is the most commonly suggested one as it's priced competitively, it's fast, and has a better track record in reliability than Sandforce SSDs (mainly OCZ SSDs but most other manufacturers also use Sandforce except for Samsung and Intel - which are also good alternatives to the Crucial M4).

For gaming, you basically want the following:

core i5 2500k

Some heatsink such as the Hyper 212+ or you can keep a flagship heatsink such as the Noctua NH-D14 since these things won't be replaced from configuration to configuration. This is basically a lifetime investment until you get into liquid or something drastically changes in the industry.

Some Z68 board such as the Asrock Z68 Extreme3 (good option for novices who want to do a multi-GPU configuration), don't waste money on a higher-end board unless you know what you want.

2x4gb of 1333MHz, you can get 1600MHz if you want or if the price is negligible. The difference in higher frequency and tighter timings in gaming is negligible (non existent). You'll never reach anywhere close to 16GB in gaming unless you are multi-boxing or the game is just terribly coded.

Case, pick whatever floats your boat. You can keep the 650D if you want. Another one of those components that you will keep with you through multiple configurations unless your taste/wants changes.

Games won't come on blu-ray anytime soon but if you need a blu-ray reader for blu-ray movies than okay.

The 6950 is fine

You'll want a ~650w power supply for a multi-GPU configuration. Corsair TX650V2, Antec Earthwatts 650, Antec Neo Eco 620, XFX Core Edition 650, Antec High Current Gamer 620 and Seasonic S12II 620 come to mind.

Ahh thanks a heap skyR i will post my updated build tomorrow and if its not to much trouble could you check it for me
thanks
Meow?
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 12:42:00
December 05 2011 12:40 GMT
#15706
yo dude if you want the h100 id buy it from here: http://www.linkecomputer.com/products/1013410/CWCH100/CORSAIR/

much cheaper (although i hate those all in one watercoolers and corsair in general )

that 850w psu is enough for 3 6950s
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
December 05 2011 12:52 GMT
#15707
On December 05 2011 21:40 Legatus Lanius wrote:
yo dude if you want the h100 id buy it from here: http://www.linkecomputer.com/products/1013410/CWCH100/CORSAIR/

much cheaper (although i hate those all in one watercoolers and corsair in general )

that 850w psu is enough for 3 6950s


actually, enough for 4 6950's
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
December 05 2011 12:53 GMT
#15708
On December 05 2011 21:52 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 21:40 Legatus Lanius wrote:
yo dude if you want the h100 id buy it from here: http://www.linkecomputer.com/products/1013410/CWCH100/CORSAIR/

much cheaper (although i hate those all in one watercoolers and corsair in general )

that 850w psu is enough for 3 6950s


actually, enough for 4 6950's


yeah i guess, but i wouldnt be overclocking them
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 13:41:08
December 05 2011 13:37 GMT
#15709
On December 05 2011 20:11 liamdogger wrote:
Will this power supply be enough to run this build
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_972&products_id=15955
Build:
Motherboard- GA-X79-UD5 Motherboard $369
Cpu- Intel Core i7 3930K $ 659
Cooler- Hydro Series H100 CPU Cooler $ 165
Graphics Card- Gigabyte Radeon HD6950 1GB Overclocked $279
Ram- Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M4X1600C9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 $119
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS $119
Optical- Pioneer BDR-206 Blu-Ray Disc Writer OEM $115
Case- Corsair Obsidian Series 650D $215

Is every thing compatible and are there any areas where the cost could be reduced?
(i am buying from http://www.pccasegear.com/ )
thanks in advance


Since it seems like you're building a "best of everything" build (not that there's anything wrong with that), may I suggest going cheapo on the graphics card for now (get the 5770 or something from newegg for $80), and waiting until the January release of AMD's new cards?

The new 28nm video cards from ATI look like they're going to perform massively well, like at least 50% better than the current flagship cards, and they're only like 1 month away: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2209620

It would suck to spend all that money, and then have a component in your system not be "the best" within 1 month, right? I know the mantra is usually "if you want a computer now, get it now because there will always be "something better on the horizon"", but I feel like 1 month is a pretty small waiting period.

Also, on a side note, why is there no SSD in that build? Your money would be much better spent for gaming to drop the CPU to an i5-2500k, saving the $600-$650 between it and the cheaper mobo, and getting a nice 128GB SSD regarding performance (which usually cost around $200).
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 05 2011 14:47 GMT
#15710
can anyone help me find a good netbook/notebook, I don't really need it for games as i have a great desktop. My nc20 broke down and I especially likes the size so something's similar would be great. My price range would be at about 500-600 euro at most. Thanks in advance
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 05 2011 15:19 GMT
#15711
Thinkpad Edge. Check Lenovo's website.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 05 2011 15:33 GMT
#15712
^Looks good! Thanks a bunch
Spuick
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway357 Posts
December 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#15713
How do you know if your motherboard is compatible with certain graphic cards?

Additionally my motherboard is MSI p55-CD53 if anyone could find out if it's compatible with gtx 560 Ti I'd appreciate it.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 17:05:13
December 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#15714
Question about where the psu's fan should point in cooler master 430 case. There's a filter at the bottom of the case, so I'm assuming that the fan should point down. I just wanted to make sure! thx
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6654]
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
LeKiNGG
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada110 Posts
December 05 2011 17:05 GMT
#15715
yes, bottom of the case.
IdrA and Stephano fighting!
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 17:19:17
December 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#15716
On December 06 2011 02:01 Spuick wrote:
How do you know if your motherboard is compatible with certain graphic cards?

Additionally my motherboard is MSI p55-CD53 if anyone could find out if it's compatible with gtx 560 Ti I'd appreciate it.


Generally speaking, virtually all modern motherboards (i.e. from the last 5-ish years) are compatible with all modern video cards as they all use PCI-express 2.0 or 2.1. Your board has a 2.0 x16 slot [x16 refers to the bandwith - and 500GB/lane*16 = 8GB/sec is the current maximum of PCI-e 2.x] so any modern card [such as that 560ti] will be fine. You'll even be able to upgrade to the next-generation of PCI-e 3.0 cards that are coming out next year, if you so desire.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Spuick
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway357 Posts
December 05 2011 17:19 GMT
#15717
On December 06 2011 02:17 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 02:01 Spuick wrote:
How do you know if your motherboard is compatible with certain graphic cards?

Additionally my motherboard is MSI p55-CD53 if anyone could find out if it's compatible with gtx 560 Ti I'd appreciate it.


Generally speaking, virtually all modern motherboards (i.e. from the last 5-ish years) are compatible with all modern video cards as they all use PCI-express 2.0 or 2.1. Your board has a 2.0 x16 slot [x16 refers to the bandwith - and 500GB/lane*16 = 8GB/sec is the current maximum of PCI-e 2.x] so any modern card will be fine. You'll even be able to upgrade to the next-generation of PCI-e 3.0 cards that are coming out next year.


Alright, and does the same rule apply to, for instance, processors?
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 17:23:09
December 05 2011 17:21 GMT
#15718
On December 06 2011 02:19 Spuick wrote:

Alright, and does the same rule apply to, for instance, processors?


No, that's where Intel screws us over. You have to make sure the Mobo and CPU socket are the same. Your mobo is LGA1156, not to be confused with Intel's current-generation LGA1155 motherboards & CPU's (for mainstream consumers, that is - there's of course the enthusiast LGA2011 platform but that doesn't matter to 99.99% of people). What CPU do you have? 1156 still has good performance and there's probably no need to upgrade anytime soon.

AMD keeps their sockets longer and are more forward and backward compatible but their chips are also slower and they are not relevant in the current gaming CPU market.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Spuick
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway357 Posts
December 05 2011 17:24 GMT
#15719
On December 06 2011 02:21 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 02:19 Spuick wrote:

Alright, and does the same rule apply to, for instance, processors?


No, that's where Intel screws us over. You have to make sure the Mobo and CPU socket are the same. Your mobo is LGA1156, not to be confused with Intel's current-generation LGA1155 motherboards & CPU's (for mainstream consumers, that is - there's of course the enthusiast LGA2011 platform but that doesn't matter to 99.99% of people). What CPU do you have? 1156 still has good performance and there's probably no need to upgrade anytime soon.

AMD keeps their sockets longer and are more forward and backward compatible but their chips are also slower and they are not relevant in the current gaming CPU market.


i5 750 2,67GHz. I was only wondering though. Thanks mate.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
December 05 2011 20:39 GMT
#15720
So im an idiot and after taking my MB (p67-c43) out of the box and figuring out where to place my standoffs, i set the board on the outside of the anti-static bag it came in. I didn't know this was bad at the time, is there any way to test if its dead without a cpu? i have a spare PSU and GPU i can test it with.
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