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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 04 2010 03:56 GMT
#1341
On September 03 2010 15:35 Aduromors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 14:10 Mindcrime wrote:
It's definitely a budget upgradable CrossFire build,


This is not a thing

What is the point of this

hinkleberry crossfire usually isn't worth it. by the time your card is cheap enough to crossfire usually there's a single card that's a better buy because of the extra power consumption, heat, and all that.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11563 Posts
September 04 2010 04:12 GMT
#1342
also ati drivers sux

crossfire doesn't scale very well in a lot of cases
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
September 04 2010 04:53 GMT
#1343
On September 04 2010 13:12 FragKrag wrote:
also ati drivers sux

crossfire doesn't scale very well in a lot of cases


SLI vs Crossfire is probably the most inane argument ever
Mystor
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada60 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 05:21:54
September 04 2010 05:21 GMT
#1344
On September 04 2010 12:52 Mystor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 12:38 Mystor wrote:
On September 02 2010 11:59 R04R wrote:
Yup, that's a good board.

Thanks, just one more pass of my system
+ Show Spoiler +
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Antec Three Hundred + BP430 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 430W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129065

Rosewill RNX-N300 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Wireless-N 2.0 PCI (1T2R) Up to 150Mbps Data Rates/ WPA/WPA2 (AES, 64,128-WEP with shared-key ...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166038

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443

GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333

A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model AD3U1333B2G9-DRH
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211364

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727


There are currently no combo deals and I bumped up the quality of my gfx card and processor a touch.
If this works I think I will get it soon.

Ok, so some people have said that this computer will need a better PSU than the 430W one in the Antec 300.
Is this true? if so what should I get it at? Any suggestions?

An extra question (or two) that could be conveniently answered while that first one is being answered.
Will this PSU ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018 ) be compatible and stable enough to run my system if the 430W one is not sufficient?
Will my CPU/computer in general need any extra (as in bought separately) heat sinks/fans (If I don't get the Antec 300 with the 430W I am thinking of getting this case instead: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066 )?

Thanks again,
Just want to make sure I don't mess it up.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11563 Posts
September 04 2010 05:36 GMT
#1345
On September 04 2010 13:53 Aduromors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 13:12 FragKrag wrote:
also ati drivers sux

crossfire doesn't scale very well in a lot of cases


SLI vs Crossfire is probably the most inane argument ever


say that to SLI scaling :/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 04 2010 05:44 GMT
#1346
430w is enough, but I guess if you want a sense of security you can bump it up to 500 or 550. 700 is way overkill, however.

From my point of view it looks like the antec 300 illusion is $59.99 with $19.99 shipping, which comes out to $80.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

This is a better case at $69.99 with free shipping, unless your postal code makes the shipping different for you.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215

Decent PSUs:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256061
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030 - no power cord
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151080 - no power cord
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004

I'd get the Silverstone or Neo Eco if possible.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 06:43:03
September 04 2010 06:33 GMT
#1347
Antec Basiq 500W is worse and less reliable than the Basiq 430W actually. The former is FSP, while the latter is Delta. (edit: apparently the 500W may be decent actually in terms of electrical specs, but the fan is really loud according to many.) The Neo Eco 520C--which is a Seasonic S12IIB design apparently--should be the best of those above.

Shipping is kind of wack. Actually if you just got the CM 690 II and the Basiq 430W, that would be cheaper than the Antec 300 + Basiq 430W if you include shipping? If so, get the CM 690 II definitely.

But actually, you might as well check prices on ncix.com and build on there if you're not going to use newegg.ca combos.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 04 2010 07:13 GMT
#1348
Yeah Newegg.ca is weird. Shipping screws a lot of deals over.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 04 2010 07:28 GMT
#1349
I don't know why people buy from newegg.ca when ncix, memoryexpress, canadacomputers, etcetc all have better prices, pricematching, and shipping =\
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 04 2010 09:27 GMT
#1350
The thing that continues to make me look for parts on newegg compared to the other sites is the user interface. It's so much easier on newegg.

Another thing is I don't know how Canada's shipping works so it might be completely different for someone else especially when I'm doing it stateside. Someone Canadian should help build for them. Would it help/I think it would help if Canadians supplied their postal code when posting or am I off somewhere?
ô¿ô
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 04 2010 09:34 GMT
#1351
On September 04 2010 13:53 Aduromors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 13:12 FragKrag wrote:
also ati drivers sux

crossfire doesn't scale very well in a lot of cases


SLI vs Crossfire is probably the most inane argument ever

I don't think it is relevant to the average user but it matters for some people who can afford two GPU.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Mystor
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada60 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 14:22:00
September 04 2010 14:17 GMT
#1352
+ Show Spoiler [On September 04 2010 14:44 R04R wrote:] +
430w is enough, but I guess if you want a sense of security you can bump it up to 500 or 550. 700 is way overkill, however.

From my point of view it looks like the antec 300 illusion is $59.99 with $19.99 shipping, which comes out to $80.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

This is a better case at $69.99 with free shipping, unless your postal code makes the shipping different for you.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215

Decent PSUs:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256061
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030 - no power cord
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151080 - no power cord
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004

I'd get the Silverstone or Neo Eco if possible.

Thanks for telling me that 430w is enough, I was going to get one that would cost me much more money

At my postal code that case has $9.99 shipping . Is it a good case?
There is just one thing about the case that confuses me, In the information it makes itself clear that it has space for 10 fans and water cooling, and one of the reviewers said "the fans were quiet", but I see no evidence that there are any fans that come with it, should I buy fans for the case or will I not need them?


+ Show Spoiler [On September 04 2010 15:33 Myrmidon wr…] +
Antec Basiq 500W is worse and less reliable than the Basiq 430W actually. The former is FSP, while the latter is Delta. (edit: apparently the 500W may be decent actually in terms of electrical specs, but the fan is really loud according to many.) The Neo Eco 520C--which is a Seasonic S12IIB design apparently--should be the best of those above.

Shipping is kind of wack. Actually if you just got the CM 690 II and the Basiq 430W, that would be cheaper than the Antec 300 + Basiq 430W if you include shipping? If so, get the CM 690 II definitely.

But actually, you might as well check prices on ncix.com and build on there if you're not going to use newegg.ca combos.

Thanks for the input on the PSUs.

With the shipping, I never really thought about it until now, but I agree, it messes things up.
The CM 690 II + Basiq 430W for me would raise the price of my computer by $5 in total.
is the CM 690 II better than the Antec 300?

EDIT: GASP! I lied! It only increases it by $5! not $15 fixed now.

+ Show Spoiler [On September 04 2010 16:28 skyR wrote] +
I don't know why people buy from newegg.ca when ncix, memoryexpress, canadacomputers, etcetc all have better prices, pricematching, and shipping =\


Yeah, I just started looking on those other sites to see if I could get a good deal. The shipping differences are really quite impressive when I am dealing with something like ME.

+ Show Spoiler [On September 04 2010 18:27 R04R wrote] +
The thing that continues to make me look for parts on newegg compared to the other sites is the user interface. It's so much easier on newegg.

Another thing is I don't know how Canada's shipping works so it might be completely different for someone else especially when I'm doing it stateside. Someone Canadian should help build for them. Would it help/I think it would help if Canadians supplied their postal code when posting or am I off somewhere?

I agree, the user interface is so much better on newegg.ca than the others, but now that I know what I am looking for I can look elsewhere.
If you want to help me find the shipping costs you can PM me for my postal code, but I would rather not just post it on the forums.

So yeah, going to go check out NCIX and ME now (maybe even others O.o)

Again, thanks for your help.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
September 04 2010 15:06 GMT
#1353
Yeah chances are, if you are in canada, ncix is better than newegg.ca.
Mystor
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada60 Posts
September 04 2010 16:07 GMT
#1354
On September 05 2010 00:06 SONE wrote:
Yeah chances are, if you are in canada, ncix is better than newegg.ca.

I was looking around at prices (including shipping and such) and it seems that for me the best deal would be if I got it from a Memory Express.
Im fiddling around with that, as they do not have the same selection of components as Newegg.ca. I'm not worried though

Thanks again
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
September 04 2010 16:56 GMT
#1355
On September 05 2010 01:07 Mystor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 00:06 SONE wrote:
Yeah chances are, if you are in canada, ncix is better than newegg.ca.

I was looking around at prices (including shipping and such) and it seems that for me the best deal would be if I got it from a Memory Express.
Im fiddling around with that, as they do not have the same selection of components as Newegg.ca. I'm not worried though

Thanks again

Ncix would be the better choice other than MemoryExpress, again both places do price matches and you can always buy the parts locally and/or at one place, but I would prefer to buy the case locally because you save alot on shipping
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
September 04 2010 17:02 GMT
#1356
NCIX was also the best for ontario, until they opened up a store in markham. Paying 6% tax vs 13% was ^^, but now its ㅡㅡ'
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 04 2010 17:09 GMT
#1357
Retailers are required to charge you HST if you live in a HST province. They opened a store / warehouse in Ontario to give us more incentive to buy.
Mystor
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada60 Posts
September 05 2010 03:56 GMT
#1358
Bought my computer components locally to save on shipping and am happy with its performance so far :D
Haven't installed SCII yet, but once it downloads I will see how it runs.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
September 05 2010 04:55 GMT
#1359
On September 05 2010 02:09 skyR wrote:
Retailers are required to charge you HST if you live in a HST province. They opened a store / warehouse in Ontario to give us more incentive to buy.



Well now they do. Buying a rig for 1k and paying 60$ tax only was a blessing, it made NCIX stand out over every computer store in ontario by far.
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
September 05 2010 05:31 GMT
#1360
On September 05 2010 12:56 Mystor wrote:
Bought my computer components locally to save on shipping and am happy with its performance so far :D
Haven't installed SCII yet, but once it downloads I will see how it runs.

Did you go with the original build or did you change it up
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