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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 24 2010 00:48 GMT
#101
AS5 is a complete waste. People need to stop buying it :/

I think you overpayed on the RAM, and the sniper is a decent case
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 24 2010 00:48 GMT
#102
On July 24 2010 09:42 buhhy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 09:31 mahnini wrote:
On July 24 2010 09:21 Brambled wrote:
On July 24 2010 09:16 FragKrag wrote:
As for CPU fans, the Scythe Mugen-2 should be adequate for your purposes.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142


Do you think I would need to OC the i5 to be able to get play SC2 with max settings?

nope


Honestly, the CPU doesn't matter that much in gaming. The graphics card setup matters the most.

Not so much for sc2, sc2 is very cpu dependent, rts tend to be much more so then a fps with some rare exceptions like BF:BC2.

SC2 likes a strong cpu but i don't think you'll need to oc the i5 to get a good experience.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 24 2010 00:51 GMT
#103
I'm sure the i5 will do perfectly fine on SC2.

I'm sure any Intel i CPU can handle SC2 at Ultra quite easily.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:10:49
July 24 2010 01:01 GMT
#104
@buhhy

Yes AS5 is not that good anymore esp for inflated prices ppl buy it, it's a very old formula.

I too think 155 for i'm guessing 6 gigs of ram is alot.

http://www.amazon.com/Ocztfrztc-Extreme-Thermal-Conductivity-Compound/dp/B00128TA78/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279932764&sr=8-6
is a decent compound
boo amazon's pricing
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g8/c127/s454/list/p1/Thermal-Thermal_Interface_Materials-OCZ_Compounds-Page1.html

There is also better compounds
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8921/thr-57/Shin-Etsu_X23-7783D_Silicone_Thermal_Compound_-_1g.html?tl=g8c127s846

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovation_Cooling_Diamond_7_Carat_Thermal_Compound_-_15_Grams.html

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11398/thr-80/Tuniq_TX-4_High_Performance_Thermal_Grease_-_30g.html?tl=g8c127s690

personally i like the tuniq tx-4, just because its very hard to find artic cooling mx-4

The thing why that one cost so much is because it's 3.0 grams, but it's a non conductive material so you can use it on your gpu, cpu, north bridge, etc. 3.0 grams is alot

In my list from what i observe it's like in terms of performance
AS5<MX-2=TX-2<OCZ< IC7=TX-4=MX-4=Shin-Etsu
SolC361
Profile Joined July 2010
United States184 Posts
July 24 2010 01:02 GMT
#105
On July 24 2010 09:51 FragKrag wrote:
I'm sure the i5 will do perfectly fine on SC2.

I'm sure any Intel i CPU can handle SC2 at Ultra quite easily.

I have a PC that runs an i7 930 2.8 GHz with 9 GB of RAM that struggled on Medium and had to run on Low to play smoothly. After upgrading only my graphics card (to an ATI Radeon 5770), it can run Ultra nicely. Just goes to show that it's the graphics card that matters, not the CPU.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 24 2010 01:04 GMT
#106
On July 24 2010 10:02 SolC361 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 09:51 FragKrag wrote:
I'm sure the i5 will do perfectly fine on SC2.

I'm sure any Intel i CPU can handle SC2 at Ultra quite easily.

I have a PC that runs an i7 930 2.8 GHz with 9 GB of RAM that struggled on Medium and had to run on Low to play smoothly. After upgrading only my graphics card (to an ATI Radeon 5770), it can run Ultra nicely. Just goes to show that it's the graphics card that matters, not the CPU.

Of course gpu matters, but try running SC2 with a 5870 and a AMD 6400+ or something, that isn't a power house like a 930, you'll get horrible min frame rates, =p all those physics, moving units, units taking dmg, lighting effects etc. are calculated with the cpu.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 24 2010 01:05 GMT
#107
On July 24 2010 10:01 semantics wrote:
@buhhy

Yes AS5 is not that good anymore esp for inflated prices ppl buy it, it's a very old formula.

I too think 155 for i'm guessing 6 gigs of ram is alot.

http://www.amazon.com/Ocztfrztc-Extreme-Thermal-Conductivity-Compound/dp/B00128TA78/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279932764&sr=8-6
is a decent compound
boo amazon's pricing
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g8/c127/s454/list/p1/Thermal-Thermal_Interface_Materials-OCZ_Compounds-Page1.html

There is also better compounds
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8921/thr-57/Shin-Etsu_X23-7783D_Silicone_Thermal_Compound_-_1g.html?tl=g8c127s846

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/thr-41/Innovation_Cooling_Diamond_7_Carat_Thermal_Compound_-_15_Grams.html

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11398/thr-80/Tuniq_TX-4_High_Performance_Thermal_Grease_-_30g.html?tl=g8c127s690

personally i like the tuniq tx-4, just because its very hard to find artic cooling mx-4

The thing why that one cost so much is because it's 3.0 grams, but it's a non conductive material so you can use it on your gpu, cpu, north bridge, etc.

3.0 grams is alot

In my list from what i observe it's like

OCZ< IC7~TX-4~Shin-Etsu


IC Diamond really is a tier below Shin-Etsu X23 :>
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:10:11
July 24 2010 01:07 GMT
#108
No it's all the same i didn't use < i guess i should use = haha, my math teachers hated how i didn't write = too

In fact i'd be inclined to say IC Diamond 7 is probably a wee bit better then anything else currently available, but the data given from site to site is inconclusive.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:09:16
July 24 2010 01:07 GMT
#109
What is the best GPU I could buy in the price range of 100-150$? I live in British Columbia, Canada so it would be great if you could find it on http://ncix.com/index.php. My old card, which just died on me, was an xfx 9600 GSO. 1280x1024 resolution. My budget could probably go a bit higher if there is a card that is really worth it.

Thanks.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 24 2010 01:13 GMT
#110
On July 24 2010 10:07 Kraz.Del wrote:
What is the best GPU I could buy in the price range of 100-150$? I live in British Columbia, Canada so it would be great if you could find it on http://ncix.com/index.php. My old card, which just died on me, was an xfx 9600 GSO. 1280x1024 resolution. My budget could probably go a bit higher if there is a card that is really worth it.

Thanks.


5750

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=48965&vpn=AX5750 1GBD5-H&manufacture=PowerColor

Basically any card will be able to handle 1280x1024.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:15:11
July 24 2010 01:14 GMT
#111
On July 24 2010 10:07 semantics wrote:
No it's all the same i didn't use < i guess i should use = haha, my math teachers hated how i didn't write = too

In fact i'd be inclined to say IC Diamond 7 is probably a wee bit better then anything else currently available, but the data given from site to site is inconclusive.


http://www.overclock.net/cooling-experiments/453054-ic-diamond-7-vs-shin-etsu.html

It's quite obvious which one is superior here :/

I would recommend against the HD 5750 in favor of the GTS 250. HD 5750 really doesn't perform that well for its price.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 24 2010 01:20 GMT
#112
I can play ultra on 1680x1050 with my 6000+, but it's my gtx 280 sc that's taking the load. I really notice the hurt in 3v3 and 4v4 lategame, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Azarthis
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:22:54
July 24 2010 01:22 GMT
#113
I'd like to recommend http://www.overclockers.co.uk as a pc parts retail site for UK customers.

Also http://www.trustedreviews.com is a great site to check out for information if you have a specific component in mind which you want to find out more about before you buy.
Pablols
Profile Joined August 2009
Chile519 Posts
July 24 2010 01:27 GMT
#114
i have a problem, whatever program I use they always say my cpu is at 41c, it never changes even at max load, its a E7500 dual core and its not overclocked. :/ do i have a deffective mobo or cpu?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:30:55
July 24 2010 01:29 GMT
#115
On July 24 2010 10:14 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 10:07 semantics wrote:
No it's all the same i didn't use < i guess i should use = haha, my math teachers hated how i didn't write = too

In fact i'd be inclined to say IC Diamond 7 is probably a wee bit better then anything else currently available, but the data given from site to site is inconclusive.


http://www.overclock.net/cooling-experiments/453054-ic-diamond-7-vs-shin-etsu.html

It's quite obvious which one is superior here :/

I would recommend against the HD 5750 in favor of the GTS 250. HD 5750 really doesn't perform that well for its price.

I hope he had an open test bed cuz that's alot of applying haha, I don't think he's using enough pressure, i believe IC7 recommended pressure is 50psi

http://www.overclockerstech.com/ic-diamond-thermal-compound-review/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermal-interface-roundup_10.html#sect1
http://hardwarelogic.com/articles.php?id=5379&page=3
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=138&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=3

What his show is drastically different from what i've seen

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ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
July 24 2010 01:48 GMT
#116
I am looking for a good laptop to game with. I know, laptop isnt the best way to go but I have NO choice as I need it for work and I can't afford multiple computers. Is there a good one out there under 1200 dollars? I know there is but I need some suggestions as I don't want to buy a peice of crap and if I can't figure this out I'm gunna buy a Mac book PRO and call it a day.
Being weak is a choice.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 02:01:52
July 24 2010 01:57 GMT
#117
What do you need the laptop to do?

IE what do you want to be able to run well, photoshop, sc2 etc.

Then i suggest how big do you want it, ie like 14" or 18"
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:58:51
July 24 2010 01:58 GMT
#118
http://www.skinneelabs.com/indigoxtreme.html

Only one of your reviews explicitly states which version of X23 it uses, and it happens to be the older version :/

though it's really a moot point since we're arguing over at best 2C -_-
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
July 24 2010 02:03 GMT
#119
On July 24 2010 10:13 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 10:07 Kraz.Del wrote:
What is the best GPU I could buy in the price range of 100-150$? I live in British Columbia, Canada so it would be great if you could find it on http://ncix.com/index.php. My old card, which just died on me, was an xfx 9600 GSO. 1280x1024 resolution. My budget could probably go a bit higher if there is a card that is really worth it.

Thanks.


5750

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=48965&vpn=AX5750 1GBD5-H&manufacture=PowerColor

Basically any card will be able to handle 1280x1024.

Thanks. Any second opinions?
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 02:04:12
July 24 2010 02:04 GMT
#120
question:
is the radeon HD 5830 not possible to overclock?
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