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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
July 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8561
On July 21 2011 06:15 JingleHell wrote:
You can default DLs to your HDD through browser settings.

And use of the SSD depends on how you use your PC. If you don't reboot frequently, it may not be worth having your OS on it.



Ive actually never reinstalled windows so i honestly dont know much about it. What happens to the OS that is on the SDD? Will it be cleared or do i have to clear it? Also, what about the key for windows 7 seeing as i have already used it? Can i just enter it and it will work again?
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
Malikari
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada45 Posts
July 20 2011 21:40 GMT
#8562
@skyR

Thanks, just wanted to check to make sure I don't goof up terribly

I got an extra SATA cable for my SSD, I heard most mobos only come with 2.
Is there anything else I might be forgetting?
"Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 20 2011 22:05 GMT
#8563
That's everything. Most low-end boards do only come with two.
Pawsom
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States928 Posts
July 20 2011 23:35 GMT
#8564
This is more of an upgrade than a new purchase, so I'll list my current rig, and expectations.

Mobo: MSI P55-GD65 ( Sata II, USB 2.0 )
CPU: i5-750 ( This is a bit older, but still good right?)
GPU: 9800 GTX 512mb ( I believe this is the GTS 250)
RAM: 4GB
PSU: 650w Corsair

Current Resolution: 1280x1024, I can play starcraft2 on ultra settings and be fine.


The upgrades I'm currently planning to buy:
SSD: I'm going to purchase a 80-120g SSD for my OS, Games etc. This seems to be a great investment.
Monitor: I want a monitor that supports 1900x1080, and looks sharp. Is it worth it to buy one of the new 120hz monitors? Could someone point me to an example of a good 60hz and 120hz monitor (23-24inch)

My main questions are, do I need a new GPU to play at my new resolution (1900x1080) at max settings? Would using a 120hz monitor affect my GPU needs? If so, what level GPU would I need?

Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 21 2011 00:02 GMT
#8565
At ma settings yes you will need a new GPU probably, i'd say a good 6850/6870 or gtx460/gtx560

the only thing about monitors that affect gpu is the resolution
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 00:27:52
July 21 2011 00:02 GMT
#8566
@Aranaukin

Here's an overclockable configuration for $833 before mail in rebates:

Don't plan for SLI, it's a terrible upgrade path. You need to overclock if you want to stream at 1080p. If you do a lot of work in CAD or MATLAB that takes advantage of the extra threads, investing in the core i7 2600k may be worth it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $230 ($205 after mail in rebate)

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Blu-ray Burner @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136226

PNY 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333

Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082


@Pawsom

The 9800 GTX is probably strong enough to run Starcraft II on ultra or high. For other games, no you won't be achieving max settings with a 9800 GTX at 1080p. No, your grapic needs aren't impacted by whether you select a 60Hz or 120Hz monitor.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 21 2011 00:28 GMT
#8567
Well, it is if you want to play at higher fps, which I guess is what you would want a 120 Hz monitor for (other than 3D lol). If you want to play newer games other than SC2 consistently higher than 60 fps at high graphics settings, you'll really need an upgrade over the 9800 GTX. However, a consistent 60 fps (low fps getting close to 60, not average) is already plenty good enough for most people.
dirkaderk
Profile Joined December 2010
United States26 Posts
July 21 2011 01:18 GMT
#8568
Not sure if this is the place for it but I figured I'd ask here anyways. I built a computer with parts recommended by you guys a week ago and its been running great, have it overclocked to 4.8GHz @ 1.38V (i5-2500k). I was wondering if this is considered a safe voltage for everyday use, taking into consideration that I have speedstep on that dials it back to 1.6GHz and 1.2V when the cores aren't stressed. Thanks for your help!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 21 2011 01:24 GMT
#8569
Yes, it's a safe voltage.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
July 21 2011 01:50 GMT
#8570
On July 21 2011 09:02 skyR wrote:
@Aranaukin

Here's an overclockable configuration for $833 before mail in rebates:

Don't plan for SLI, it's a terrible upgrade path. You need to overclock if you want to stream at 1080p. If you do a lot of work in CAD or MATLAB that takes advantage of the extra threads, investing in the core i7 2600k may be worth it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $230 ($205 after mail in rebate)

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Blu-ray Burner @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136226

PNY 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333

Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082


@Pawsom

The 9800 GTX is probably strong enough to run Starcraft II on ultra or high. For other games, no you won't be achieving max settings with a 9800 GTX at 1080p. No, your grapic needs aren't impacted by whether you select a 60Hz or 120Hz monitor.

I literally favorited this comment, how do you come up with such a good build for a little price, even without the OS or HDD...
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 21 2011 01:58 GMT
#8571
All of these builds work exactly the same and cost exactly the same. Its not rocket science.
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
July 21 2011 02:03 GMT
#8572
There's a lot of benchmark data on a lot of parts nowadays that you just need to find a reliable source for them and just start picking out which ones have the best value for money.
"Sleeping with SeLeCT is Standard. Once you've slept with Day9 everything else is just ..." - CatZ
dirkaderk
Profile Joined December 2010
United States26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 02:13:35
July 21 2011 02:13 GMT
#8573
On July 21 2011 09:02 skyR wrote:
@Aranaukin

Here's an overclockable configuration for $833 before mail in rebates:

Don't plan for SLI, it's a terrible upgrade path. You need to overclock if you want to stream at 1080p. If you do a lot of work in CAD or MATLAB that takes advantage of the extra threads, investing in the core i7 2600k may be worth it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $230 ($205 after mail in rebate)

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Blu-ray Burner @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136226

PNY 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333

Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082


@Pawsom

The 9800 GTX is probably strong enough to run Starcraft II on ultra or high. For other games, no you won't be achieving max settings with a 9800 GTX at 1080p. No, your grapic needs aren't impacted by whether you select a 60Hz or 120Hz monitor.



I can second this on the EVGA GTX 560 Ti AR, Lifetime warranty and i had the core clocks up to 1000MHz from 850MHz and the memory massively overclocked with zero cooling issues with only a minor bump in voltage. For a cheap card, this thing is a beast.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 21 2011 02:15 GMT
#8574
On July 21 2011 10:58 Womwomwom wrote:
All of these builds work exactly the same and cost exactly the same. Its not rocket science.


Oh come on, you think people actually read any of this thread first to realize that the same things get suggested over and over again?
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 05:00:57
July 21 2011 05:00 GMT
#8575
What do you guys think of this build for running SC2 (1920 x 1200) and streaming:

NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case @$60

MSI 760GM-P33 AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard @$55

SAPPHIRE 100314-2SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity @$180

Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply @$60

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX @$120

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ @$35

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive @$45

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM @$20

It comes out to $575. I am trying to keep this system as cheap as possible.

Will this be able to run SC2 on max settings if I wanted to? I personally like Low settings but i just want the ability to be able to. Also can it run sc2 and stream at the same time and not be choppy?

Any suggestions? all the parts are from newegg.com




skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 21 2011 05:10 GMT
#8576
Well, yes the configuration would be able to stream and play Starcraft II on max settings but your choices make no sense if your goal is to make it as less expensive as possible.

2x2GB is available for $30: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396

This type of budget configuration can be ran off a much lower wattage power supply such as a Corsair CX430 V2 for $45 ($35 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

The Caviar Blue AAKX is available for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

A Radeon HD5850 can play Starcraft II on max settings at 1080p for $155 ($125 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516

AMD's second generation Phenoms suck, I suggest you reconsider. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083 , http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300.html

Wasting $60 on a case when you're trying to make it as less expensive as possible isn't smart. A $40 case is more reasonable: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094 and you can also just run it case-less or get even a less expensive case.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
July 21 2011 05:52 GMT
#8577
On July 21 2011 14:00 Gattaca.usa wrote:
What do you guys think of this build for running SC2 (1920 x 1200) and streaming:

NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case @$60

MSI 760GM-P33 AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard @$55

SAPPHIRE 100314-2SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity @$180

Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply @$60

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX @$120

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ @$35

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive @$45

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM @$20

It comes out to $575. I am trying to keep this system as cheap as possible.

Will this be able to run SC2 on max settings if I wanted to? I personally like Low settings but i just want the ability to be able to. Also can it run sc2 and stream at the same time and not be choppy?

Any suggestions? all the parts are from newegg.com





A 1 TV HDD is on shell shocker deal for $49 right now, $4 more than your HDD. I do not know about Newegg time zones, but if you read this in time you may be able to order it quick, even if you get it before the other items. (Also free shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490

I ordered this before my other items.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 21 2011 05:53 GMT
#8578
That's a Caviar Green. You do not want to use a Caviar Green as a boot drive -_- they're slow and meant for storage only.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 05:59:51
July 21 2011 05:58 GMT
#8579
Hey SkyR (Or Jingle if you read this =D)

What ghz can the Xigmatek Gaia cool safely to? Also what PSU/watts could safely run a 6870 1 GB and i5 2500k up to 4.2 ghz? The online calculator thing confuses me as I do not know what those things are. Thanks!

Oh wow thanks about the Caviar, managed to cancel in time, you're a life saver. Btw you probably recognize me already, and I just want to say its been confirmed I am ordering my computer before August 10th, finally!
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 21 2011 06:06 GMT
#8580
Xigmatek Gaia can do up to 5GHz given the right piece of silicon and ambient temperatures / airflow.

A 400w to 500w unit is capable of running an overclocked 2500k and 6870. Some capable power supplies include but not limited to the following:

XFX Core Edition 450 for $55 ($45 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Antec High Current Gamer for $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047
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